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AFriendOfAFriend · **08-02-2013, 11:34 PM**

Something I found curious was a number of the Voidsent you encounter being identical to/reminiscent of the Kindred from XI. Coupled with the appearance of the Goblins, Qiqirn and Mamool Ja it does lead one to believe that the connection to Vana'diel is more than a bit tenuous. I've read discussions where people theorized that while the different FF worlds are indeed separate, they share the space between - i.e., the Void. It's shown that the boundaries between the Void and physical realm can be messed with, so it's not outside the realm of belief that a cataclysmic event such as Bahamut Megaflaring everything to hell could rip a hole straight through the Void and into another world.

Sounsyy · **08-02-2013, 11:42 PM**

(08-02-2013, 11:22 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: There is WAAAAAAAY too much to suggest that they are merely from another continent, everything they mention in that writeup is directly from FFXI. Nope, I'm 99.9% certain (leaving a very tiny amount of room for error) that the empire they are referring to is Aht Urhgan and the other world is Vana'diel.

I can't seem to find a source for the information, so it may not actually be true and they may just be a new Beastmen race added from FFXI, but not actually from Vana'diel, and the information provided was just a joke. I'll have to see if I can't find them when phase 4 begins and find out more info.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this information is unfounded until a source comes forward. I made a point of talking to every Mamool Ja NPC I found in and around Limsa Lominsa. Even slaughtered a few outside Bronze Lake for good measure. Really wishing I had grabbed screenshots of their chat bubbles now though. But I don't recall them making any mention of anything relating to Vana'diel. Almost certain. But I will definitely be investigating and screenshotting when P4 comes out lol. Just to be sure.

I don't think I'd mind if SE threw in this little easter egg to give XI players a laugh, but I'm avidly against Hydaelyn and Vana'diel being the same world. Despite their core similarities to XI, XIV is it's own game with its own lore that is almost wholly incompatible with XI's lore.

Ashren Dotharl · **08-02-2013, 11:57 PM**

(08-02-2013, 11:42 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: I don't think I'd mind if SE threw in this little easter egg to give XI players a laugh, but I'm avidly against Hydaelyn and Vana'diel being the same world. Despite their core similarities to XI, XIV is it's own game with its own lore that is almost wholly incompatible with XI's lore.

I actually completely agree with this, I believe even if it turns out to be true that the Mamool Ja are the same beastmen from Vana'diel, that that only means they managed to escape to Eorzea somehow through a rift in the Void or something, not that Eorzea = Vana'diel, or that Vana'diel is located somewhere else on Hydaelyn. If that were the case then why are the Miqo'te not Mithra, or the Roegadyn Galka? Even if there are similarities between the two races they are drastically different. Miqo'te last the distinct cat-like nose that the Mithra had, as well as much smaller eyes. The Roegadyn have normal body proportions and lack a tail and animal-like nose, where the Galka had both tail and animal-like nose, and had enormous arms and tiny legs by comparison. Even the Elezen and Elvaan don't completely match, since the Elvaan had much longer arms and legs when compared to the length of their torso, and much small heads in proportion to their bodies.

As far as the Goblins and Qiqirn go, I actually think it's stated they are natives of Eorzea, there's no attempt to compare them beyond looks to their Vana'diel counterparts.

Sounsyy · **08-03-2013, 12:22 AM**

(08-02-2013, 11:57 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: As far as the Goblins and Qiqirn go, I actually think it's stated they are natives of Eorzea, there's no attempt to compare them beyond looks to their Vana'diel counterparts.

Was actually just looking for this. An NPC named Vavaki has a few things to say about Goblins. Apparently they've always been around Eorzea but in much smaller numbers, but recently (circa 1472) many have left their hiding places to travel into Eorzea's cities in what the Goblins call "The Great Pilgrimage."

As for Qiqirn, there isn't much information on them, but they do appear to be native to Vylebrand. And they've at least been in Eorzea as long as Limsa has existed since Qiqirn used to be vital parts of pirate crews. They also have claws that are adapted to slice clean through Sahagin scales. So to me that suggests they've been present in Eorzea long enough to evolve to their surroundings.

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