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Ghitx · **08-13-2013, 01:13 PM**

(08-13-2013, 11:52 AM)gitm Wrote: I'm thinking of making my Keeper an orphan who was raised by Elezen parents in Gridania from a very young age, so she wouldn't be part of a family at the start.

However if there was a Keeper family being roleplayed she would like show an interest as she know little of Keeper family life.

Â Thank you for the reply, Â That is actually a good background story. Â If I can't find people to be part or begin a small group of families, I guess I will go with my first Â idea which is that I and the second son of the mother and Â my family was masacred by a rival tribe of the seekers who wanted to gain and control more territory ( in this case the territory they wanted was the one used by the union of families) But I don't know if that could be possible.

Jomoru · **08-14-2013, 10:44 AM**

(08-13-2013, 08:02 AM)Ghitx Wrote:
(08-12-2013, 02:53 PM)Koren Wrote: It could also be that Keepers don't really form large tribes like Seekers do. Â

Lore describes them as matriarchal families, and, their groups are usually two families, sometimes three at the largest. Â So, it's... less necessary of a social structure to go out and seek out other Keeper players for that cultural feel. Â Hence, fewer posts about people seeking out those ties.

Seekers are Lions. Â We're more... the cats that sit up on your bookshelf and will tell you when you are graced to pay us attention

My character is a Keeper of the Moon but her family was very, very mobile as they were oft on anthropological research studies. Â If you don't mind a character tie that requires constant travel I can help.
Â Well I know that they don't form big tribes but still, most of them live in groups of families, at least 3 or 4 families( from my perspective, and I see some good people replying to the post ( much appreciated) Â having the idea of being a lone family, or coming from one, which is good and awesome, but I have not seen a group of Miqo'te ( of the Keepers) that want to group up Â as a small group of families.... I don't know if I'm making myself clear. Â oo and haha do you mean that we are that type of cat or are you still talking about the seekers "Seekers are Lions. Â We're more... the cats that sit up on your bookshelf and will tell you when you are graced to pay us attention"

I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.

Roda · **08-14-2013, 04:19 PM**

(08-14-2013, 10:44 AM)Jomoru Wrote: I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.

I was under the impression that the 10th son thing was a result of their number system, not really because they made that many suffixes just in case they had 10 sons. o.o
(Seems a lot more effective to name someone suzy'ten than suzy'blah, so when you eventually have suzy'eleven, you're not scrambling for what word to make up for that kid)

Jomoru · **08-14-2013, 05:20 PM**

(08-14-2013, 04:19 PM)Roda Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 10:44 AM)Jomoru Wrote: I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.
I was under the impression that the 10th son thing was a result of their number system, not really because they made that many suffixes just in case they had 10 sons. o.o
(Seems a lot more effective to name someone suzy'ten than suzy'blah, so when you eventually have suzy'eleven, you're not scrambling for what word to make up for that kid)

If they are normally hitting 1 or 2 kids I would imagine the thing would top out at 5, I mean that would require having at minimum 11 kids. 10 Sons requires at minimum having 21 children. I've been thinking conservatively Keepers have 5 children that can give you around 400 or so per family if you go out to second cousins, so Keeper Enclaves might have something like 1000+

I imagine the excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker

Ghitx · **08-15-2013, 10:45 PM**

(08-12-2013, 02:53 PM)Koren Wrote: It could also be that Keepers don't really form large tribes like Seekers do. Â

Lore describes them as matriarchal families, and, their groups are usually two families, sometimes three at the largest. Â So, it's... less necessary of a social structure to go out and seek out other Keeper players for that cultural feel. Â Hence, fewer posts about people seeking out those ties.

Seekers are Lions. Â We're more... the cats that sit up on your bookshelf and will tell you when you are graced to pay us attention

My character is a Keeper of the Moon but her family was very, very mobile as they were oft on anthropological research studies. Â If you don't mind a character tie that requires constant travel I can help.

(08-14-2013, 05:20 PM)Jomoru Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 04:19 PM)Roda Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 10:44 AM)Jomoru Wrote: I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.
I was under the impression that the 10th son thing was a result of their number system, not really because they made that many suffixes just in case they had 10 sons. o.o
(Seems a lot more effective to name someone suzy'ten than suzy'blah, so when you eventually have suzy'eleven, you're not scrambling for what word to make up for that kid)

If they are normally hitting 1 or 2 kids I would imagine the thing would top out at 5, I mean that would require having at minimum 11 kids. 10 Sons requires at minimum having 21 children. I've been thinking conservatively Keepers have 5 children that can give you around 400 or so per family if you go out to second cousins, so Keeper Enclaves might have something like 1000+

I imagine the excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker

I Honestly think that Â "Due to nature" they would have only 2 or 4 males and the rest would be females. IMO. Â so if we have a small tribe or group of families, Â lets say 4 families, with a total of 24 kids, I believe that Â 1/4 of that would be males and like you said "excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker" Â I think that would be true depending on the tribe, and Â would a Tia seeker accept the rule of a female if he decides to stay within the families. or it would be Â a simple Â one night stand ( knockup "the movie" edition) and goodbye?

Jomoru · **08-15-2013, 11:30 PM**

(08-15-2013, 10:45 PM)Ghitx Wrote:
(08-12-2013, 02:53 PM)Koren Wrote: It could also be that Keepers don't really form large tribes like Seekers do. Â

Lore describes them as matriarchal families, and, their groups are usually two families, sometimes three at the largest. Â So, it's... less necessary of a social structure to go out and seek out other Keeper players for that cultural feel. Â Hence, fewer posts about people seeking out those ties.

Seekers are Lions. Â We're more... the cats that sit up on your bookshelf and will tell you when you are graced to pay us attention

My character is a Keeper of the Moon but her family was very, very mobile as they were oft on anthropological research studies. Â If you don't mind a character tie that requires constant travel I can help.

(08-14-2013, 05:20 PM)Jomoru Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 04:19 PM)Roda Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 10:44 AM)Jomoru Wrote: I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.
I was under the impression that the 10th son thing was a result of their number system, not really because they made that many suffixes just in case they had 10 sons. o.o
(Seems a lot more effective to name someone suzy'ten than suzy'blah, so when you eventually have suzy'eleven, you're not scrambling for what word to make up for that kid)

If they are normally hitting 1 or 2 kids I would imagine the thing would top out at 5, I mean that would require having at minimum 11 kids. 10 Sons requires at minimum having 21 children. I've been thinking conservatively Keepers have 5 children that can give you around 400 or so per family if you go out to second cousins, so Keeper Enclaves might have something like 1000+

I imagine the excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker
I Honestly think that Â "Due to nature" they would have only 2 or 4 males and the rest would be females. IMO. Â so if we have a small tribe or group of families, Â lets say 4 families, with a total of 24 kids, I believe that Â 1/4 of that would be males and like you said "excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker" Â I think that would be true depending on the tribe, and Â would a Tia seeker accept the rule of a female if he decides to stay within the families. or it would be Â a simple Â one night stand ( knockup "the movie" edition) and goodbye?

It would depend on how extended the family is, I don't imagine its something as simple as nuclear families(mother, father, children) But more extended groupings, allow for signifcantly larger enclaves without becoming full villages or towns.

As for the Tia thing, how actually successful the excess Keeper females are wouldn't matter when they get a reputation for such(They also might get reputations for stealing other races men as well)

Ghitx · **08-16-2013, 11:01 AM**

(08-15-2013, 11:30 PM)Jomoru Wrote:
(08-15-2013, 10:45 PM)Ghitx Wrote:
(08-12-2013, 02:53 PM)Koren Wrote: It could also be that Keepers don't really form large tribes like Seekers do. Â

Lore describes them as matriarchal families, and, their groups are usually two families, sometimes three at the largest. Â So, it's... less necessary of a social structure to go out and seek out other Keeper players for that cultural feel. Â Hence, fewer posts about people seeking out those ties.

Seekers are Lions. Â We're more... the cats that sit up on your bookshelf and will tell you when you are graced to pay us attention

My character is a Keeper of the Moon but her family was very, very mobile as they were oft on anthropological research studies. Â If you don't mind a character tie that requires constant travel I can help.

(08-14-2013, 05:20 PM)Jomoru Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 04:19 PM)Roda Wrote:
(08-14-2013, 10:44 AM)Jomoru Wrote: I'd say that Keepers probably have surprisingly large groups, these are after all probably extended families, and Keepers can breed big I mean they have rules for 10 sons and are explicitly prone to having more daughters than sons. It may not be particularly common but it happened enough to have rules for it.
I was under the impression that the 10th son thing was a result of their number system, not really because they made that many suffixes just in case they had 10 sons. o.o
(Seems a lot more effective to name someone suzy'ten than suzy'blah, so when you eventually have suzy'eleven, you're not scrambling for what word to make up for that kid)

If they are normally hitting 1 or 2 kids I would imagine the thing would top out at 5, I mean that would require having at minimum 11 kids. 10 Sons requires at minimum having 21 children. I've been thinking conservatively Keepers have 5 children that can give you around 400 or so per family if you go out to second cousins, so Keeper Enclaves might have something like 1000+

I imagine the excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker
I Honestly think that Â "Due to nature" they would have only 2 or 4 males and the rest would be females. IMO. Â so if we have a small tribe or group of families, Â lets say 4 families, with a total of 24 kids, I believe that Â 1/4 of that would be males and like you said "excessive females would have an interesting trend in society, perhaps even luring away excess Tia Seeker" Â I think that would be true depending on the tribe, and Â would a Tia seeker accept the rule of a female if he decides to stay within the families. or it would be Â a simple Â one night stand ( knockup "the movie" edition) and goodbye?

It would depend on how extended the family is, I don't imagine its something as simple as nuclear families(mother, father, children) But more extended groupings, allow for signifcantly larger enclaves without becoming full villages or towns.

As for the Tia thing, how actually successful the excess Keeper females are wouldn't matter when they get a reputation for such(They also might get reputations for stealing other races men as well)

This postÂ show a good video about Â the last matriarch society Â I believe it would be something like them, like you I also believe that they don't have a "nuclear" family, but it would be an hybrid between an extended with Â typical family ( typical to our "society") btw does anyone know what is going on with the beta on PC i have not Â receive nothing and I was granted a beta key

Kouen92 · **10-14-2013, 01:59 AM**

I'm a keeper of the moon who's lookin for a keepers tribe / family.

My characters back story is that his small family got demolished during the calamity while he was traveling. He's been alone and seekin others since. He's a seasoned traveler and always wants to help others regardless off the dangers.

Vigh Mor'talia · **10-14-2013, 03:19 AM**

Hello there! Â Just chiming in if you are interested in checking out the RP-Tribe that Vigh and her mate are from called Silver Moon Tribe. Â We have a wiki if you want to read up on the lore. Â The only stipulation is due to the Tribe's extreme isolation. Â Physical characteristics emerged which set the members apart from other Keepers of the Moon; example being fur color is usually silver or silver with gold highlights.

If it seems at all interesting contact me and we can try and discuss further or set something up! Â We have a separate linkshell for the various members of the villages that encompass the Silver Moon Tribe.

http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/wiki/index....Moon_Tribe

QinStillwater · **10-14-2013, 12:36 PM**

Late to the thread but adding my voice.

I also had a heck of a time finding info on Keepers... so I had Qin run away from his tribe at a young age, take up with a Lallafellian merchant who gave him a new name, and become a traveling merchant / snake oil salesman.

Qin's personality doesn't gel well with the whole tribal, close-to-nature thing, so it worked out well.

That's probably NOT what you were looking for, but there's always ways to work with lack of lore info, hehe.Â Evil

Qhora Bajihri · **10-14-2013, 07:42 PM**

Quote:Though there are ten suffixes listed above, rarely do even the largest Keeper of the Moon families have more than two or three sons. This is not by choice. Nature merely sees to it that more females are born to this race.

^ Direct from the Miqo Naming conventions post. Ten sons is a haaa not likely.

I've got a Keeper, but her family history's sort of set, and she's one of only three individuals that survived post-Carteneau from a group of a few families. Still, might be interesting to encounter others here and there.

Nako Vesh · **10-14-2013, 10:38 PM**

The background for Nako is pretty open as far as this goes. She comes from a small family group based in the Shroud. She's out adventuring now, but she returns frequently to touch base with her family there. She actually does her best to impress them with her exploits, and show them what a strong hunter she has become because she hopes to one day lead her family group.Â

I don't see why someone couldn't come from her same family group. And I would think it would be common for Keeper families to get together from time to time to trade information and goods. I've actually been thinking of throwing together a player-made concept around that idea? It could coincide with ceremony around Menphina or something? I dunno!

K'nahli · **10-14-2013, 11:01 PM**

(08-12-2013, 02:19 PM)Ghitx Wrote: Mi reaction when I saw a reply, and when I read itÂ haha Â but stay
Â around maybe Â This post will unite Â some keepers Â after all we live in small groups hehe

(08-12-2013, 02:28 PM)Naunet Wrote: I do have a Keeper, but with helping to run an LS, an FC, and being a driving force behind the organization of the Hipparion tribe... well, I'll keep an eye on this thread and consider tossing Sah'ot in for a veryÂ loose connection (her story would likely make it so she's not in much contact with any family group).

On behalf of the Sunseeking, Hipparion Tribe, I highly condemn all thoughts towards coaxing our leader towards running a Moonkeeper tribe in addition to our own.

No sharing! Get your own! *hiss* *hissssssss*

Naunet · **10-14-2013, 11:05 PM**

(10-14-2013, 11:01 PM)K Wrote: No sharing! Get your own! *hiss* *hissssssss*

Not sure if I should feel loved or frightened!

Miah Polaali · **10-15-2013, 12:10 AM**

My character, Miah Polaali, was a clan based Keeper from the shroud. Her group of families was actually one of the more traditional Keepers who had conflicts with the Elzen.Â
But, currently her and 2 others are the only ones left alive, since many of them being killed off or lost during the calamity. And now she has left the group and is on her own. But, there is a lot going on and I do not necessarily want to give everything away.

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