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Oroban · **10-05-2013, 01:18 PM**

Cuz tiny people are funny, Sio. And adorable, but also funny. So nyeh, sez I. Nyehhhh.

Lost River · **10-05-2013, 01:22 PM**

Well, today we've learned that Sio is a butt person. Also, that scary eyes are scary. And Lalafells are adorable.

Cato · **10-05-2013, 01:25 PM**

(10-05-2013, 12:52 PM)Siobhain Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:37 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(09-30-2013, 10:43 PM)Faye Wrote:
(06-14-2013, 08:48 PM)Folken Wrote: I love female Roe. But it's pretty obvious why they'll be under-represented. Male Roe were too for the same reason.

This. I like Roe, but the reasons they're rarely played, especially among RPers, are rather obvious. I wish I could make a lady Roe. There are so many gorgeous ones I've seen! However, it's an archetype I wouldn't be comfortable RPing, so I haven't made one. (Actually, I did have one in beta--I just didn't keep her around).

It's funny, I see a lot of people criticising female roegadyn for being rather curvy and thickly built and yet...a very large portion of the other race's females are being drawn and described in the exact same way. Though given how oversexualised most characters tend to be, I'm not surprised.

I criticize female Roegadyn for having no butts. At. All. None. Take all your Roegadame's clothes off and turn her sideways. See what I mean?

Even so they're still a lot more sexualised than male characters tend to be. It's rare to find male character models with a bulge in their underwear, even if it'd be realistic to see one. I'm getting a little tired of the 'Action Man' style anatomy in MMO's.

K'dath · **10-05-2013, 01:53 PM**

(10-05-2013, 01:25 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:52 PM)Siobhain Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:37 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(09-30-2013, 10:43 PM)Faye Wrote:
(06-14-2013, 08:48 PM)Folken Wrote: I love female Roe. But it's pretty obvious why they'll be under-represented. Male Roe were too for the same reason.

This. I like Roe, but the reasons they're rarely played, especially among RPers, are rather obvious. I wish I could make a lady Roe. There are so many gorgeous ones I've seen! However, it's an archetype I wouldn't be comfortable RPing, so I haven't made one. (Actually, I did have one in beta--I just didn't keep her around).

It's funny, I see a lot of people criticising female roegadyn for being rather curvy and thickly built and yet...a very large portion of the other race's females are being drawn and described in the exact same way. Though given how oversexualised most characters tend to be, I'm not surprised.

I criticize female Roegadyn for having no butts. At. All. None. Take all your Roegadame's clothes off and turn her sideways. See what I mean?

Even so they're still a lot more sexualised than male characters tend to be. It's rare to find male character models with a bulge in their underwear, even if it'd be realistic to see one. I'm getting a little tired of the 'Action Man' style anatomy in MMO's.

OHGODTHIS. Completely independent of sexual interests, it just looks wrong to have these Barbie-doll crotches on all the men. Especially Roe guys.

Have you seen one of them in the summer wear thong? I have. It's borderline disturbing and for the completely wrong reason!

Cato · **10-05-2013, 02:07 PM**

(10-05-2013, 01:53 PM)K Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 01:25 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:52 PM)Siobhain Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:37 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(09-30-2013, 10:43 PM)Faye Wrote: This. I like Roe, but the reasons they're rarely played, especially among RPers, are rather obvious. I wish I could make a lady Roe. There are so many gorgeous ones I've seen! However, it's an archetype I wouldn't be comfortable RPing, so I haven't made one. (Actually, I did have one in beta--I just didn't keep her around).

It's funny, I see a lot of people criticising female roegadyn for being rather curvy and thickly built and yet...a very large portion of the other race's females are being drawn and described in the exact same way. Though given how oversexualised most characters tend to be, I'm not surprised.

I criticize female Roegadyn for having no butts. At. All. None. Take all your Roegadame's clothes off and turn her sideways. See what I mean?

Even so they're still a lot more sexualised than male characters tend to be. It's rare to find male character models with a bulge in their underwear, even if it'd be realistic to see one. I'm getting a little tired of the 'Action Man' style anatomy in MMO's.
OHGODTHIS. Completely independent of sexual interests, it just looks wrong to have these Barbie-doll crotches on all the men. Especially Roe guys.

Have you seen one of them in the summer wear thong? I have. It's borderline disturbing and for the completely wrong reason!

It's baffling, really - there's a lot of skimpy attire for men in this game and yet it just looks silly because the base character model are just so flat in regards to the crotch region to the point where it looks glaringly unrealistic. I'm hoping TESO will be a step in the right direction by allowing us to customise that portion of our character's body, but apparently it's 'too crude' to have something like that in MMO's and yet it's 'perfectly fine' to have a breast slider...

cuideag · **10-05-2013, 02:10 PM**

(10-05-2013, 02:07 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 01:53 PM)K Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 01:25 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:52 PM)Siobhain Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:37 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote: It's funny, I see a lot of people criticising female roegadyn for being rather curvy and thickly built and yet...a very large portion of the other race's females are being drawn and described in the exact same way. Though given how oversexualised most characters tend to be, I'm not surprised.

I criticize female Roegadyn for having no butts. At. All. None. Take all your Roegadame's clothes off and turn her sideways. See what I mean?

Even so they're still a lot more sexualised than male characters tend to be. It's rare to find male character models with a bulge in their underwear, even if it'd be realistic to see one. I'm getting a little tired of the 'Action Man' style anatomy in MMO's.
OHGODTHIS. Completely independent of sexual interests, it just looks wrong to have these Barbie-doll crotches on all the men. Especially Roe guys.

Have you seen one of them in the summer wear thong? I have. It's borderline disturbing and for the completely wrong reason!

It's baffling, really - there's a lot of skimpy attire for men in this game and yet it just looks silly because the base character model are just so flat in regards to the crotch region to the point where it looks glaringly unrealistic. I'm hoping TESO will be a step in the right direction by allowing us to customise that portion of our character's body, but apparently it's 'too crude' to have something like that in MMO's and yet it's 'perfectly fine' to have a breast slider...

I love each and every one of you.

Sigyn Shieldbreaker · **10-05-2013, 02:21 PM**

I like to think that that's just how male Roe are equipped. ^.^ ...Mostly so I can pick on Klarimel.

Otherwise, I've always had a butt thing. No. This is ridiculous. Siobhain -literally- has a man's pelvis. This is important enough for me to have to take screenshots.

[Image: exhibita_zps5b8cad83.png]

Focus on everything below the bikini top.

[Image: exhibitb_zps63b390c6.png]

Admittedly, it's not so bad from the back.

Oh wait...

[Image: exhibitd_zps1c82b3ae.png]

Nega-butt.

[Image: exhibitc_zpsa45f4bfe.png]

I guess when I look at the chest between the arm and armpit + collarbone I think she looks like a man wearing his sister's bra.

With the help of Qaeli we've identified that increasing muscle tone makes some things a bit more stark than they'd otherwise be. Like that collarbone of doom. Also I'm sure that it helps that many Roegadames have nice long hair and such to balance things out. I love Sio, don't get me wrong, but there's just a few things that kill me about her like her lack of trunk space. Otherwise, I guess it would be easier for me to draw her! I have issues drawing voluptuous hips. <3

Oroban · **10-05-2013, 02:25 PM**

I recall cracking jokes with Sio about a bulge slider in chargen, and how it would generally result in a server's entire male population waddling about. Search your hearts, you know it to be true.

K'dath · **10-05-2013, 02:30 PM**

I don't even need a bulge slider. All I want is, you know, just a nod from the character model to confirm the difference between male and female isn't just 'boobs' and 'boobs lite'.

Sigyn Shieldbreaker · **10-05-2013, 02:33 PM**

(10-05-2013, 02:30 PM)K Wrote: I don't even need a bulge slider. All I want is, you know, just a nod from the character model to confirm the difference between male and female isn't just 'boobs' and 'boobs lite'.

'Boob lite' made me laugh.

Lost River · **10-05-2013, 02:56 PM**

Well, realistically, you lose your rump when you add the strength. So, the best thing? Start feeding Sio cake. Lots and lots of cake.

Torn Sky · **10-06-2013, 04:09 AM**

I changed Torn's hairstyle for now to blow off some steam because the back of it was clipping horribly with every collar.

I need a hug.

It's pretty (my second favorite), but I don't know if it really suits her. What do my fellow Roegadames think?

[Image: ponytailts_zps5e5fee97.png]

Sigyn Shieldbreaker · **10-06-2013, 04:38 AM**

(10-06-2013, 04:09 AM)Torn Sky Wrote: I changed Torn's hairstyle for now to blow off some steam because the back of it was clipping horribly with every collar.

I need a hug.

It's pretty (my second favorite), but I don't know if it really suits her. What do my fellow Roegadames think?

I think it looks lovely. I'm not certain whether Torn Sky is masculine or feminine or somewhere in between, though.

Entity · **10-06-2013, 07:04 PM**

(10-05-2013, 12:52 PM)Siobhain Wrote:
(10-05-2013, 12:37 PM)Theodric Ironheart Wrote:
(09-30-2013, 10:43 PM)Faye Wrote:
(06-14-2013, 08:48 PM)Folken Wrote: I love female Roe. But it's pretty obvious why they'll be under-represented. Male Roe were too for the same reason.

This. I like Roe, but the reasons they're rarely played, especially among RPers, are rather obvious. I wish I could make a lady Roe. There are so many gorgeous ones I've seen! However, it's an archetype I wouldn't be comfortable RPing, so I haven't made one. (Actually, I did have one in beta--I just didn't keep her around).

It's funny, I see a lot of people criticising female roegadyn for being rather curvy and thickly built and yet...a very large portion of the other race's females are being drawn and described in the exact same way. Though given how oversexualised most characters tend to be, I'm not surprised.

I criticize female Roegadyn for having no butts. At. All. None. Take all your Roegadame's clothes off and turn her sideways. See what I mean?

HonestlyÂ it doesn't reallyÂ annoy me about people picking races for whatever [sexually] appealing reason they may have but it just secretly bothers me that in most cases it's the ONLY reason...I mean yeah yeah there's the [ridiculous] phrase "sex sells," but not everyone's like that...kinda makes me wonder what race people would pick if Miqo'te did not exist. I usually don't consider sex appeal or physical appearance when it comes to picking races, not as much so as their general personalities among their kind along with their history as well as what they're capable of. Maybe that's just me. =P

(10-06-2013, 04:09 AM)Torn Sky Wrote: I changed Torn's hairstyle for now to blow off some steam because the back of it was clipping horribly with every collar.

I need a hug.

It's pretty (my second favorite), but I don't know if it really suits her. What do my fellow Roegadames think?

When I think of Roegadyn I think wild or tomboyish hair, with the exception of characters like the substitute Arcanist Guildmaster Thybergeim (IÂ don't remember if that's how you spell herÂ name >.<). In other words, if you're a mage or have a sophisticated persona about your char I think this hair works fine. =P

Sigyn Shieldbreaker · **10-06-2013, 07:30 PM**

I don't think 'sex' sells in terms of the outrageous number of female Miqo'tes at least. They... aren't... that... sexy. What they are is cute. Loli maybe. Cute and loli but not sexy unless you find those qualities sexy. Throwing cat ears and a tail on it doesn't sexualize it any more than handing me a kitten nestled in a pile of Victoria's Secret panties and telling me 'Get aroused'. Male Miqo'te? At least half of them are a different matter entirely.

Girls like cute things. Guy like cute things. Guys also like to trick other guys with cute things.

Result?

99% Miqo'te.

Also:

Not even the Amazons were all 'tomboyish'. Doesn't make no damn sense for Roegadyn men to be so manly and say to themselves "You know what I like? I like a woman who looks like a male Elezen. Bit more muscle on it. There we are."

Perhaps Roegadyn got saddled with the 'Female Night Elf' bag.

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