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Jomoru · **12-23-2013, 02:59 AM**

There are a more "human" options playing a Miqote by lore than Hyur ironically. By being average Midlanders have rubbed off any interesting cultural bits. Want to be a viking? Can't play a Hyur. Want to be a Zulu? Can't be a Hyur. Want to be French? Not with the Hyur!

Each and every real world culture or aproximation seems to be taken by other races. Its kind of funny to play something the most true to humans of the earth I'd have to play a nonhuman.

Kismet · **12-23-2013, 03:18 AM**

(12-23-2013, 02:34 AM)Magellan Wrote: @Kismet: I actually have never played a human in any mmo I've ever played before b/c I considered it boring. One of my goals when I started FFXIV was to change that. I wanted the 'challenge' of playing average joe race, and somehow make it interesting. Only, none of the midlander looks appealed to me at ALL.

I next looked at making a miqo'te, a seeker. But the lore for them absolutely didn't interest me in the slightest. Sooo.... since I wanted the challenge of playing human but didn't like their look, but like the look of seeker but yawned about their lore... why not make a hyur kitty? I knew going in it was an oft used trope, but so what? RP is about having fun.

And for the record, I have another seeker who is Roegadyn adopted :p

In another post, I said already said that I purely understand people making their choices for aesthetic-only reasons. I do that myself. I pay SE good money, so I can run around in permanent cat ears if I want to. That's why I disagree with anyone who ever asks "if you're going to RP a human, why don't you make one?".Â

Obviously RPing is about having fun. But there is a particular reason why I said what I did in my first post, and I addressed that in my second post.

And your character would be the first Roe-adopted Miqo I've (personally) heard of, then. XD

Trigonxv · **12-23-2013, 03:27 AM**

really? Am I the only one who rolled miqo'te cause it had straight up nostalgia from ff9 well @$#& yeah, and for those who don't know ff9 I'm sorry but shame on you XD

FreelanceWizard · **12-23-2013, 04:48 AM**

To the OP's question, the reason I made a miqo'te is because I liked the opportunities offered by the Seeker lore. Seekers of the Sun are one of the few races whose society is fairly well-defined between the basic game lore pages and a variety of dev posts, and as such, it gives a good "jumping off point," so to speak, for a character background. Seeker lore offers a rich set of variables and influences for a character -- whether a Seeker loves it or hates it, the existence of that culture and how it affects one's upbringing help define the character.

The mechanism of nunh selection, for instance, played a pivotal role in turning L'yhta against tribal society generally and her branch of the Vipers specifically. However, she still maintains certain elements of tribal Seeker culture as a result of her upbringing, such as pride in her people, a drive to prove her strength, and a strong dislike of other races assuming miqo'te women are all exotic dancers and prostitutes.

W'seckhi Asah · **12-23-2013, 04:55 AM**

Hrm. So I guess I made Fiona cause I had the concept for a self-hating racist of a Miqo'te kicking around for a bit. I guess I channelled a little Uncle Ruckus. While originally from a tribe, she eventually left and chose a new name for herself. A Hyur-ish name. She actively tries to suppress any 'stereotypical' feline characteristics, just short of lopping off her ears and tail, and has trouble even tolerating other Miqo'te, especially Seekers. All in all, the story's been pretty fun for this girl, especially as she explores the prospect of trying to join up with the Garlean Empire. Fun times, indeed for the girl who hates just about everything about her culture. Including her birth name.

Sini'to Shadar · **12-23-2013, 04:58 AM**

Late to the party! Yay! But who cares! \o/

Reason for me why i play miquote is pretty much like most others already have said, but i still want to say some things. Playing a human feels unbelievable boring to me, so i never play the human race in any game that has different race choices.
To say it short and blunt: Lalafells look too much like children... roegadyns are hulks, not my case :X ... elezen are out of proportion... they got closest to "i would play them too" but miquote won over them, just because i like their looks better.

So that really only left me with miquote. That was the initial thing, now after playing my main for quite a while now, im very fond of him and wouldnt change him anymore.

About the "one of a million" thing and the most played race: Despite that i feel very unique nonetheless. I play him as a scholar or intelectual, and i can count the people i met in RP who play one character as that on one hand. This is subjective, tho, there could be many out there (actually i guess everyone who plays a "non-feral" mage) its just my perception.
And if you'd look for a significant feature that seperates him from the crowd, it would be his glasses... it's HIS thing. Personally i didnt meet a single other character that wears glasses. The only other one i know myself would be antimony, and thats OOC knowledge. ^^

He's non-tribal, like many others, but that is because i tied his youth heavily to limsa Lominsa, which is a cultural melting pot like others have pointed out already.
Naih'ir said we are coming to the citys, not from them. Well, that part already got done by Sinis mother Tongue

She's a miquote who left her clan and made a fortune in Limsa as merchant. Sini'to grew up entirely in Limsa Lominsa, so he basically grew up in a cosmopolitan society/culture and therefore has these assets (what you would describe as typically hyur/RL human western culture).

So hes far from tribal traditions as he never dealt with them, but as miquote he still has to explain these to other people sometimes. ^^ (luckily he knows enough about it due to being a smartpants). Also i know about the consequences that has to him and i find that good. He already met some tribal miquote who gave him fire for being non-tribal and even being with a non-tribal seeker who "spits on tribal traditions" as they worded it. But that was some fun RP, something which i didnt encounter before. Its almost a shame that it doesnt happen more often, but i guess thats due to most people RPing non-tribals, or if they do they still are very tolerant.

edit: shit, that really got longer than i expected xD and a bit offtopic

PS: omg, i loved FF9 ^^ is my favorite

TheLastCandle · **12-23-2013, 05:08 AM**

(12-23-2013, 03:27 AM)Trigonxv Wrote: really? Am I the only one who rolled miqo'te cause it had straight up nostalgia from ff9 well @$#& yeah, and for those who don't know ff9 I'm sorry but shame on you XD

Haha. I recall in the ARR promotional images, they did use a male Miqo'te named Zidane Tribal in many of them. So I think you're not alone. Wink

Trigonxv · **12-23-2013, 08:27 AM**

(12-23-2013, 05:08 AM)TheLastCandle Wrote: Haha. I recall in the ARR promotional images, they did use a male Miqo'te named Zidane Tribal in many of them. So I think you're not alone.

I see what you did there candle and I like it Thumbsup

Dubs · **12-23-2013, 08:54 AM**

I enjoy RPing a miqo'te that really doesn't care what their culture is all about because 1) frankly he wasn't raised within it and 2) there are so many out there in the "you're doing it wrong" club that are too overly enamored with how other people choose to RP their character that they themselves attempt to justify why they are more miqo'te than someone else.

All in all the same rhetorical themes always arise within these types of racial archetype defining threads to the point of banality and ad nauseum. I mean honestly, do you really want a collective group who can rarely agree on anything attempt to define you? Lunacy. This is but one of the concepts to my miqo'te's individuality. Do I need community approval in order create a well rounded character? Hell no.

Vash · **12-23-2013, 09:27 AM**

I played a Miqo'te for numerous reasons. I was super sick of playing human like races. In most of the games I've played I was a human for a long time. (Until near the end of my SWTOR career when I switched to Catharr (Cat Race))Â

There is multiple reasons I chose miqo'te I play Vash very close to my heart so I thought that his look would be something I'd like. Another reason is I thoughtÂ way back in the day before release that there would be a small amount of male miqo'te.

Another thing is Vash wasn't raised in the tribes and has no clue who his real parents are or who they where. He was raised by hyur. He only recently found out about his heritage. So there is that which I still can't decide what it'll do to him.

Anyways that's my two cents!

Seriphyn · **12-23-2013, 10:37 AM**

Ha! So, it definitely seems "Human is too boring" is the most common response.

Digressing to talk about myself, I like playing humans to explore human stories within a foreign context, actually. It's why I prefer the more grounded elements of the lore (Ul'dah Royalists vs Monetarists, Alliance vs Garlean etc) over stuff like primals and world-ending magic.

I swear, however, that some players clocked onto the large number of Miqo'te, and suddenly we saw a surge in the number of Lalafell characters in the past month. I don't know if that anecdote has correlation with anything, though.

Illira · **12-23-2013, 11:19 AM**

I have to say that I don't quite get the "human is too boring" response, as you put it, Seriphyn. And by that I mean as a reason for which to play a Miqo'te. Or for that matter pretty much all the races here as a base. None of them are far enough removed from the 'basic human' to seem like a real reason. And the Miqo'te are certainly included in this assessment. They are humans who have furry ears and a furry tail. Thats pretty much it. And from a cultural perspective, at least the non-city versions of them have a tribalistic bent. The latter bringing the only real meaty difference between them and a 'Hyur'. But even that cultural divide in the game, is far less than it could be.

And I guess that is my own personal beef with Miqo'te as a race. I would like the bestial aspects of them to be far more exaggerated and for them to really feel like they are like a true race. As it is, they are more of a human subrace. Which is true of all the other playable races.Â

tldr; In essence, Miqo'te aren't distinct enough of a race for me to buy the "human is too boring" reason as valid on an objective level. Though of course 'race' choice is a game is often an emotional thing and in the end is a subjective choice.

Sini'to Shadar · **12-23-2013, 11:35 AM**

Yeah, but as you say, this is true for all playable races here. You dont have a race thats really far away from the basic human.

But for someone who is bored by playing basic humans: A little bit more non-human is better than plain basic human. Wink

Naunet · **12-23-2013, 11:39 AM**

Honestly, I think elezen take one further away from "basic human" than miqo'te - particularly Duskwight elezen when you consider their culture and the stigma attached to them. While there are countless miqo'te NPCs who do nothing to distinguish themselves for their race, Duskwight are suspiciously absent in Gridania and treated with notable difference when they do show up.

I wish they had hair options that actually complemented their neck/head proportions.

Seriphyn · **12-23-2013, 12:18 PM**

(12-23-2013, 08:54 AM)Dubs Wrote: I mean honestly, do you really want a collective group who can rarely agree on anything attempt to define you?

Well said.

(12-23-2013, 11:19 AM)Illira Wrote: None of them are far enough removed from the 'basic human' to seem like a real reason. And the Miqo'te are certainly included in this assessment. They are humans who have furry ears and a furry tail. Thats pretty much it.

Also well said.

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