(03-12-2015, 01:51 PM)ProvaDiServo Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 08:50 AM)Nako Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 08:42 AM)Heart Quintessence Wrote: Yeah re watching the trailer is why I asked the question: I had remembered reading that WHM was... restricted, but in the Battle of Cartenau.. There is White Mage healing hte wounds of Midlander (Lalafell POWER!).. which would seem to  contradict lore?

 So perhaps its a weird Lore hiccup, or perhaps its best that we think about   ceating a psot about possible ways and ideas for people to encorporate classes- or at least their abilities ( though we know that the Guilds are an IC thing).


I mean my little Miqo'te ( I think  I have to name her soon, because typing that out is a pain).

Also guilds normally  didn't want their secrets spread so all the PCS joining the DoH, DoL,DoM and DoW, guilds is actually super unusual.

As I said, the whole reason they are in Job Gear at all is because they want Iconic gear for the trailer. They want people to look and go: That's a White Mage, That's a Black mage, etc.

I firmly believe that it was simply a marketing tool, as opposed to anything relating to the lore.

But wouldn't the same effect have worked if they provided the pvp gear they have? say the ilvl100 things?

(03-12-2015, 01:51 PM)ProvaDiServo Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 08:50 AM)Nako Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 08:42 AM)Heart Quintessence Wrote: Yeah re watching the trailer is why I asked the question: I had remembered reading that WHM was... restricted, but in the Battle of Cartenau.. There is White Mage healing hte wounds of Midlander (Lalafell POWER!).. which would seem to  contradict lore?

 So perhaps its a weird Lore hiccup, or perhaps its best that we think about   ceating a psot about possible ways and ideas for people to encorporate classes- or at least their abilities ( though we know that the Guilds are an IC thing).


I mean my little Miqo'te ( I think  I have to name her soon, because typing that out is a pain).

Also guilds normally  didn't want their secrets spread so all the PCS joining the DoH, DoL,DoM and DoW, guilds is actually super unusual.

As I said, the whole reason they are in Job Gear at all is because they want Iconic gear for the trailer. They want people to look and go: That's a White Mage, That's a Black mage, etc.

I firmly believe that it was simply a marketing tool, as opposed to anything relating to the lore.

But wouldn't the same effect have worked if they provided the pvp gear they have? say the ilvl100 things?

(03-12-2015, 01:07 PM)Kage Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 08:44 AM)entropyrat Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 04:06 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: No there isn't?

If you mean more than one person who time skipped, yes that's true. However the Devs confirmed in Fanfest there's only one WoL - the main hero - he is the only person who became the WHM or the BLM or whatever - he's the only one who has the ECho, is Hydalaen's chosen, and working with the Scions. Just one. Devs said so right at Fanfest.

Touching on the mention of the Echo in this post. Can this be confirmed with a link to the Dev's words? While I was under the impression that the Echo was very rare, I didn't believe that there was just a single sole person gifted with it either. So I'd like to see some actual backing to that claims.

Cheers.

I'm pretty sure that the Echo isn't WoL - main character only. It's just that there is only ONE warrior of light. The idea in an mmo is that THE player (YOU!) is the ONE main Warrior of Light. But this does not completely work out RP-wise.

There's no direct post of it but you can find the words in Fanfest Vegas Lore Panel. Some did live reactions/transcribing. http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=8695&pid=117271#pid117271

Quote:"White Mage casts a Medica around her, followed quickly by a Cure III in Warren's direction!"

Fernehalwes Wrote:But that still leaves one question—was the party an actual party, or were they merely symbols meant to represent you, the players? Well, you can breathe easy knowing they are both. They all ventured into Eorzea at the same time as you did. They all did similar quests, and lived through similar adventures. They exist as your characters exist (in a virtual world-sort of existence). The fact that you haven’t come across them is probably the same reason you haven’t come across my character, Amanda Hugginkyss (or maybe you have? /wink). They’re just somewhere else. Though, maybe you’ll stumble across their party in the future. Or maybe you won’t. How’s that for committing to an answer?

(03-12-2015, 05:13 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: This is why I've long believed MMOs should do away with single player storytelling all together because it causes nothing but confusion and disagreement over something that really isn't that hard to figure out.

(03-12-2015, 04:30 AM)Tiergan Wrote: Along the same vein, because of the way the White Mage quest is presented, your character is the 'lone and only chosen hero' who ever gets to be a White Mage while no one else save the Padjal get to have that special privilege.  While some job quests might simply be one scenario out of many - in the case of the White Mage quest, you literally only got to be a White Mage because some other long dead guy's white mage stone up and specifically, personally selects you to be the first and only non-padjal white mage in ages.  This spirit likely did not have multiple white-mage stones just hanging about in the shroud waiting for more adventurers to come around.  Just like our characters only have one job stone - he likely only had one job stone to give out as well.  Meanwhile, the Elementals are still very much against letting anyone non-padjal learn the art of succor.

I just really don't understand where this interpretation comes from because it makes several assumptions that seem ridiculous in the grand scheme of things:

A. The only Padjal in the entire land happen to be the five NPCs referenced in 2.0.
B. If not that, then they all think the same like a series of clones even though they all come from differing backgrounds.
C. This is the only way to do it.
D. That the reliance on the so-called will of the elementals is actually something more than exaggeration and superstition.

A lot of this obviously absurd imo, but what really settles it is the official site disagrees with it outright:.

(03-12-2015, 04:30 AM)Tiergan Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 03:18 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: There's more than one warrior of light, though, and job quests are merely one possible scenario amongst many others. Neither of those prove any exclusivity whatsoever.

It's even worse in the case of Dragoons where there is literally a chosen one - the Azure Dragoon.

(03-13-2015, 02:45 PM)Intaki Wrote: It will be interesting to see the nefarious/alternative means of claiming White Magic that were mentioned by the developers elaborated upon (perhaps in the Heavensward WHM class quests). I'm curious how Gridanian society will react when (or if) they find out the most sacred power of the Elementals can be taken by third parties without permission or punishment.

Interesting things tend to happen when the almighty have a spotlight shone on their impotence.

(03-13-2015, 12:54 PM)Flashhelix Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 04:30 AM)Tiergan Wrote:

(03-12-2015, 03:18 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: There's more than one warrior of light, though, and job quests are merely one possible scenario amongst many others. Neither of those prove any exclusivity whatsoever.

It's even worse in the case of Dragoons where there is literally a chosen one - the Azure Dragoon.

Dragoons are a good bit more plausible just by virtue of there being plenty of dragoons back in Ishgard. Of course, people tend to take that in the wrong direction by having their Ishgardian DRGs just walking around the Quicksand with no reason why they're so far away from home.