(08-05-2013, 10:32 PM)Selsix Wrote: To them I say "No." Why? Because A Realm Reborn is pretty much a NEW game. Why would I want to roll on a realm where everyone is already max level on a brand spanking new game?

(08-05-2013, 07:48 PM)Kylin Wrote: Let me make something perfectly clear before anything devolves further. This site was created with the primary intent to unify RPers onto one server 3 years ago. We have since budged on that and, against the majority's personal wishes, threw support behind a secondary server. And we will continue to support that server as per our promise.

That said, the RPC will absolutely NOT support a third or fourth server. End of story. Now, let me clarify on what I mean by "support." Any RP shell/company can certainly advertise their linkshells in the Linkshell Hall, as has always been the case. But I am not setting up a third subsection of forums, nor will most people here help advertise any third servers to newbies I'm sure, as that goes against the entire purpose of this coalition. If Rpers on Gilgamesh are unified in their decision to change to another server, fine. I can easily mod the Gilgamesh section to whatever. However, if there's no unity behind that decision (which so far there doesn't appear to be), nothing on the RPC's end will change. People can still go to whatever server they want. Nobody can stop them. But the RPC has a purpose behind its existence, and we're not going to keep taking it further and further away from that.

My suggestion is to make this a decision between the already existing Gilgamesh linkshells/companies...both internally and between one another. That will paint a much clearer picture than a public poll like this will. My advice is to hold an "emergency" Gilgamesh linkshell leader meeting of some sort via a skype chat room/AIM/whatever and discuss it internally. Though you'll probably also want to discuss it with the individual members of each Gilgamesh RP shell as well. Either way, good luck.

(08-05-2013, 10:38 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:32 PM)Selsix Wrote: To them I say "No." Why? Because A Realm Reborn is pretty much a NEW game. Why would I want to roll on a realm where everyone is already max level on a brand spanking new game?

Because that's kind of a bad reason for not wanting to be a part of an RP community, besides I promise you it will only take a few weeks before all the Redditors and 4chaners are max level, long before any RPer is.

What your basically saying here is you don't want to RP with us because we're higher level than you...

(08-05-2013, 10:39 PM)Spiritual Machine Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 07:48 PM)Kylin Wrote: Let me make something perfectly clear before anything devolves further. This site was created with the primary intent to unify RPers onto one server 3 years ago. We have since budged on that and, against the majority's personal wishes, threw support behind a secondary server. And we will continue to support that server as per our promise.

That said, the RPC will absolutely NOT support a third or fourth server. End of story. Now, let me clarify on what I mean by "support." Any RP shell/company can certainly advertise their linkshells in the Linkshell Hall, as has always been the case. But I am not setting up a third subsection of forums, nor will most people here help advertise any third servers to newbies I'm sure, as that goes against the entire purpose of this coalition. If Rpers on Gilgamesh are unified in their decision to change to another server, fine. I can easily mod the Gilgamesh section to whatever. However, if there's no unity behind that decision (which so far there doesn't appear to be), nothing on the RPC's end will change. People can still go to whatever server they want. Nobody can stop them. But the RPC has a purpose behind its existence, and we're not going to keep taking it further and further away from that.

My suggestion is to make this a decision between the already existing Gilgamesh linkshells/companies...both internally and between one another. That will paint a much clearer picture than a public poll like this will. My advice is to hold an "emergency" Gilgamesh linkshell leader meeting of some sort via a skype chat room/AIM/whatever and discuss it internally. Though you'll probably also want to discuss it with the individual members of each Gilgamesh RP shell as well. Either way, good luck.

I came in after the vote, but I always wondered something.

Putting the secondary server to a vote seemed to encourage division in the community in the first place. And not to mention, people still aren't happy with that gesture, as the poll clearly shows...

And you're making this hard line on "supporting" servers, even though some of our community--roleplayers as a whole--will be on Gilgamesh, Behemoth, Leviathan, Tonberry, etc.

So... why did you guys never think to just make a subforum for Other Servers instead of just one for Gilgamesh?

Heck, why don't you guys just do that now, so that the RPC staff doesn't have to weigh in on this debacle?

(08-05-2013, 10:42 PM)Tooplex Wrote: The only thing im worried about with Gilgamesh as to why it should be a different server is because of how full its gonna be. Quoting from that thread on the beta forums

"Honestly, you should choose a less populated server. Gilgamesh is projected to be one of the most packed new servers (Reddit, NeoGAF and GameFAQs all have FCs on Gilgamesh)."

Three communitys PLUS the RPers, You are looking at a full server very very quickly.

(08-05-2013, 10:41 PM)Selsix Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:38 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:32 PM)Selsix Wrote: To them I say "No." Why? Because A Realm Reborn is pretty much a NEW game. Why would I want to roll on a realm where everyone is already max level on a brand spanking new game?

Because that's kind of a bad reason for not wanting to be a part of an RP community, besides I promise you it will only take a few weeks before all the Redditors and 4chaners are max level, long before any RPer is.

What your basically saying here is you don't want to RP with us because we're higher level than you...

Please don't put words in my mouth.

I'm excited because of this game at launch because of just that, it's at LAUNCH. I want the experience of playing with a community that will level alongside me, at least for a time.

A lot of us want a non-legacy realm for just that reason, trail-blazing. I'd love to RP with you guys on Balmung, and your level has NOTHING to do with that.

However, this is first and foremost what? A game. And your level has EVERYTHING to do with me playing with you. I don't want to start on a "brand" new game with a bunch of people already 400 miles ahead of me. I want to build a community.

Now please stop bringing up this matter and get back to the topic at hand. Whether or not people want to stick with Gilgamesh as the non-legacy RP realm.

(08-05-2013, 10:45 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:41 PM)Selsix Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:38 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 10:32 PM)Selsix Wrote: To them I say "No." Why? Because A Realm Reborn is pretty much a NEW game. Why would I want to roll on a realm where everyone is already max level on a brand spanking new game?

Because that's kind of a bad reason for not wanting to be a part of an RP community, besides I promise you it will only take a few weeks before all the Redditors and 4chaners are max level, long before any RPer is.

What your basically saying here is you don't want to RP with us because we're higher level than you...

Please don't put words in my mouth.

I'm excited because of this game at launch because of just that, it's at LAUNCH. I want the experience of playing with a community that will level alongside me, at least for a time.

A lot of us want a non-legacy realm for just that reason, trail-blazing. I'd love to RP with you guys on Balmung, and your level has NOTHING to do with that.

However, this is first and foremost what? A game. And your level has EVERYTHING to do with me playing with you. I don't want to start on a "brand" new game with a bunch of people already 400 miles ahead of me. I want to build a community.

Now please stop bringing up this matter and get back to the topic at hand. Whether or not people want to stick with Gilgamesh as the non-legacy RP realm.

I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was merely paraphrasing your own words. I've bolding the above quote where you specifically stated you didn't want to be on our server because of our levels.

Also ARR isn't a new game, it's the Cataclysm expansion from WoW. Complete with enormous world destroying dragon and everything.

(08-05-2013, 10:48 PM)Xerek Wrote: Again, please stop derailing this thread.  It's not about discussing why the Gilgamesh community exists.

(08-05-2013, 10:41 PM)Selsix Wrote: Please don't put words in my mouth.

I'm excited because of this game at launch because of just that, it's at LAUNCH. I want the experience of playing with a community that will level alongside me, at least for a time.

A lot of us want a non-legacy realm for just that reason, trail-blazing. I'd love to RP with you guys on Balmung, and your level has NOTHING to do with that.

However, this is first and foremost what? A game. And your level has EVERYTHING to do with me playing with you. I don't want to start on a "brand" new game with a bunch of people already 400 miles ahead of me. I want to build a community.

Now please stop bringing up this matter and get back to the topic at hand. Whether or not people want to stick with Gilgamesh as the non-legacy RP realm.

(08-05-2013, 10:53 PM)Kaln Wrote: it's going to be just as much a trailblazing for us, as it is for you.