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Kilieit · **05-24-2017, 08:29 PM**

(05-24-2017, 08:20 PM)Flynn Rosenberg Wrote:
(05-24-2017, 05:58 PM)Hilde Wrote: Indicate that you don't ERP in your player info. People tend to follow this.
This is something we shouldn't have to do though, strangely. Indicating that we RP should really be enough.

Communicating clearly isn't a bad thing that you "have to" do. Like, the hierarchy is thus...

RP, some of which is...
> MRP, some of which is...
>> ERP

If you RP and especially if you MRP, there is a chance (however small) that you might also ERP. If you want people to know that you don't/don't want to be approached about it, then specifying "no ERP" is just a case of being clear about your business. That way, no-one's time is wasted - not yours, nor that of the people who enjoy RP the most when it includes elements of ERP.

IvikBlack · **05-24-2017, 09:31 PM**

I do think ERP is more commonly talked about these days, there's less shame involved and there are more RPers that are far more direct about their interest in it. I think that can give the perception that it's all anyone wants to RP about. It isn't... but it's easy to see it that way if you spend a lot of time in Balmung's Quicksand.

Hilde · **05-25-2017, 02:01 PM**

(05-24-2017, 08:20 PM)Flynn Rosenberg Wrote:
(05-24-2017, 05:58 PM)Hilde Wrote: Indicate that you don't ERP in your player info. People tend to follow this.
This is something we shouldn't have to do though, strangely. Indicating that we RP should really be enough.

They don't have to, though. It was a suggestion. They want their character to be portrayed sexually, or flirty, so it does have the potential to mislead someone into thinking their character may want to delve into that territory as a key to progression in their personal goals (they stated their character uses flirtation as a means of power or hold). If they hypothetically want to use that characteristic without having to tell every single person they play with that they differ in actually wanting to play out the sexual nature to that degree, they could add the 'no ERP' into the info.

Gabineaux · **05-25-2017, 04:04 PM**

I enjoy people who ONLY want to ERP with my characters. There's so many of them! I like to feed them regular RP until they either get the message and continue along a plot with me, or go away entirely because I did not deliver with the ERPs.

Laugh

Which isn't to say I never ERP, I mean come on now this is Balmung. There's just a huge difference between a OOC thirsty RPer and an ICly charming RPer. Like a massive difference. I'm pretty excited for the influx of red mages because every 'sexy suave' character will be wearing that AF. Easy to spot!

Val · **05-25-2017, 04:14 PM**

I'll definitely say it seems more prevalent than it was. I've been RPing in MMOs since vanilla WoW, and while it didn't seemÂ like it was around then, I know certain people did it. The MMO community has grown substantially since then and, with it, so too will the RPers and various people that come in. As people have stated before me, this will likewise lessen the chance you have to find what you're looking for as a certain mindset overcomes others. And yes, certain communities tend to have certain kinds of people in them.

People fishing for ERP was always in WoW, but didn't seem to be all the majority was looking for. Maybe I didn't notice it back then, but I certainly see it now. People will RP with me or my partner separately, find out they're together, and then immediately back off or never contact us again. People will walk up to try to get them alone and when they fail, never contact us again. The result is a substantial waste of time and a constant reminder of how annoying this mindset has become.Â

Even more so, it makes those that roleplay characters that are naturally like that look bad when they're genuinely looking for unique interaction. There are courtesans that RP it because they see it as an intriguing take on a story, not because they want to make gil for ERP or because they want ERP themselves. At this point when someone walks up to and flirts with Val or his significant other, it's hard for me to tell if they're fishing for ERP from one of us or just genuinely looking for a fun interaction.Â

It sucks, but my suggestion would be to try and trudge through the filth and find the good roleplayers out there. They exist. Sometimes they even come to Ul'dah. A lot of people I've found seem to recluse away from the city in general, but there's also some great people I've met that I wouldn't have had I never put myself out there. All you can really do is be upfront with people. While I don't want to be rude, the moment someone whispers me asking what kind of RP I'm looking for, I immediately respond with "No relationship/ERP." Pretentious, yes, but it gets the point across and they either bail immediately or leave me alone.Â

I also look at their search info. If I see "M/D RP" I get wary because for some reason people apparently think mature/dark RP is for nothing but sex or an avenue for sex. I can't tell you how many "mature/dark RP"-themed linkshells I've joined to be bombarded with nothing but trashy sex jokes and a bunch of desperate people gloating about how they're "sin queens/kings"Â

ugh.

Verad · **05-25-2017, 04:50 PM**

In truth, I am directly responsible for the growth of the ERP community in Balmung. You may direct your bemoans and discontent to me.

You may call this implausible, but doesn't it feel better to have a scapegoat? So do it anyway.

Val · **05-25-2017, 04:53 PM**

(05-25-2017, 04:50 PM)Verad Wrote: In truth, I am directly responsible for the growth of the ERP community in Balmung. You may direct your bemoans and discontent to me.

You may call this implausible, but doesn't it feel better to have a scapegoat? So do it anyway.

Not to derail but somewhat on the subject of ERP, I sometimes fondly think about those "books" that Val and Verad "wrote" and it makes me laugh every time.

ckingch · **05-25-2017, 11:07 PM**

I have also experienced what Val has mentioned happening to him.Â During the few times I do wander into the Quicksand these days, I often send a quick /tell to a person I see saying hello and asking if they want to RP, because you know half of them are just people watching or AFK.Â Out of the ones that do respond, a few of them often tell me they are just people watching, then 30 minutes later I see them ICly flirting up lady characters there.Â Here is one story I'll share.Â My character bumped into a person, chatted her up.Â It was all good.Â Sea Captain land locked until she can get some new sails.Â My character, who runs a tailoring and leather business saw dollar signs (gil signs?) and made an offer to get his business to do it, since sails are very large and take a very long time to make.Â

Thought this was going to be the real deal in making a new friend, RPed a couple more times, and then she wanted to buy some new clothes.Â Since the store is custom made to order, my character needed measurements.Â During the whole measurement process she was hitting on him hard, until he finally caved and did the deed (he was not with his current lady at this time).Â After that, never heard from them again.Â Â My character's businessÂ never did make those sails and never got paid.Â ;_;

Nowadays, he is often not given the time of dayÂ by any womenÂ not in his little circle of friends once they find out he is already taken and is just wanting to hang out and chat on his time off.

Casa Kai · **05-30-2017, 11:32 AM**

I personally don't see too much of that crazy sex-capades that are rumored to happen in Ul'dah. I see the hookers and stuff with their tags but no public ERP yet. I do notice that people seem to be a lot more forward and honest about what they want. It's not even the ERP that really bothers me but a lot of people seem to only play this game looking for relationships. I've seen a lot of people RP with me and lose interest once I tell then I am taken/not looking for a relationship. And it seems like with a lot of people that there is no such thing as good friends, you just HAVE to love each other at some point.

C'kayah Polaali · **06-03-2017, 02:47 PM**

The Quicksand is a seedy bar in a decadent city filled with wealth. The fact that 30-50% of the RPers in there at any given time want to get their rocks off with someone else is entirely fitting with the scene.

I will say that it has gotten tougher to find serious RP on this server. Not because it doesn't exist, but because there's so many of us here that it's hard to find what you're looking for. In other games with smaller RP communities, I've played characters that have gone along with whatever plots I could find, simply because there was far less to choose from. On Balmung I can be choosy. On Balmung we can all be choosy. And I suspect a lot of us are a lot more choosy than we think we are, so things feel like there's a lot less going on.

And honestly, housing hasn't helped. I mean, it's great that there are houses people can go RP in, but it does tend to make a lot of the more serious RP happen literally behind closed doors, for better or worse.

C'kayah Polaali · **06-03-2017, 03:36 PM**

I do want to add one unrelated thing. I'm not saying that the OP does this, but it's something I've seen a lot of, and that is people being extremely vague about the sort of RP they want, and I think that sort of vagueness leads to less RP opportunities.

Here's what I mean: A great deal of my RP revolves around dark/crime subjects, which is understandably not everyone's cup of tea. Sometimes when I don't have anything else going on, I'll take a character into the QS (or other RP hub) and look at people, looking for RPers. If they look interesting, I'll send them a tell. "Hi! What sort of RP are you looking for?"

Chances are, if they reply, their reply will be something in the lines of "Anything, really."

You see the problem here?

I'll typically send another tell, then, explaining: "I do a lot of dark RP and crime RP, and not everyone goes for that, hence me asking."

And chances are I'll get a reply that says "I'm really fine with anything"

At which point I usually drop it. These days, I usually drop it after the first "anything".

Because if I then come up with a hook and send it to them, saying "How 'bout my character sells yours a drug, and we can get a friend of mine who plays a Brass Blade to try to bust us, and there can be a fight..." or "An enemy of your character hires mine to try to rough your character up in an alley", they'll typically reply that they were more looking for some other sort of RP.

And these are often the same people who complain about not being able to find RP.

So my advice to anyone who's having trouble finding the RP they want: be specific. In your search text. In your tells to people. Come out and say what you want. You'll find it.

Y'raya · **06-03-2017, 04:53 PM**

After years and years of RP of various types, I feel like there's a few different ways to look at everything discussed here.

For me the first thing would be why people aren't or are up front. Many people aren't "up front" because of the stigma against ERP. They're not being sneaky, or secret, they just don't want to get called out and shamed. And it's not necessarily that they're afraid to express these things in their real life, or go unfulfilled. Sex is a part of life. So why not a part of their character to? And if it's fun, it's fun! I mean, sure, it's a bummer to meet someone who only wants to tussle, but there's plenty of serious RPers out there who do it too.

Secondly, the method writers. Yeah, I said Method Writers. I'm making that a thing. Deal. There's a lot of people, myself included, who approach writing from a character out perspective, rather than story-first. Probably a lot of these writers started with RP too. We want to understand the character, live in the character, and really embrace that. Make the character feel like a full, fleshed out person. People have many sides to them, aspects of their personality, drives, desires, moods... and again. Sex. People have sex. That's a thing that they do. Sometimes, I hear, with the intent of making more people. But not always.

I think treating ERPers as some separate part of the community is and always has been weird, and I say always has after 12 years of World of Warcraft and 5 different RP servers all having the same amount of RP and ERP. Y'know, except for that one... which really isn't any worse than the others, it just has that one glaring sore on the face of a certain forest. But ignoring that one little building, that server is no different than all those others.

People ERP because it's fun. People RP because it's fun. And people do both of those things for so many other reasons, too. The only odd thing I find after more than a decade?

We keep making a big deal out of it.

Tripfriend · **06-07-2017, 07:51 PM**

After 15 years of rpsÂ people who actually try to hook up tend to bring personal problems into these plots and constantlyÂ blurs the lines, resulting in community-shattering dramas that help nobody and kill off motivation, funs and joys. Those peoples are almost always celebrities.

Otherwise, it's just drama, drama, drama that never ends because people who erps find it difficult to remain emotionally detached, it's not like an actual forum or chat where people poof or assume a different identity to do sexy stuff constantly. People are incentivized to play their MMO and thus, log on constantly so erp community rarely have any cool-off period.

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