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Edgar · **02-18-2015, 07:37 PM**

Does Edgar want children...?

A tough question to ask of the poor fuzzball. Edgar has a lot of things going against him. For starters, he has very little grasp of what a normal family is. His biological parents were murdered in cold blood, with his father being a bastard Tia rejected from his sept who physically and emotionally abused his mother, who he had abducted from a Keeper clan. His conception was an error on the part of the father, one he tried to correct as soon as he got the chance (He attempted to throw Edgar overboard). After all this, he was adopted into a Hyur family, with no siblings, and a father who was obsessed with what he saw as a prodigal son, to the point of poisoning and destroying his own relationship, leaving Edgar with practically no family to call his own by the time he was an adult, and therefore little concept of what a family without dysfunction looked like.

Only recently have circumstances swung around in his favor, having been adopted into Jajara Jara's clan as a "younger brother" of sorts, and having managed to successfully track down the Keeper clan that his mother hailed from, allowing him to gain some concept of Keeper rites and family structure. Unfortunately, Edgar has a hard time applying it to his actual life, being both a mixed breed and a city-born. He is terribly confused as to which side of him to embrace, let alone how it is applied to a monogamous relationship. And that's assuming it is with another Miqo'te. He swims in and out of relationships, engaging in chance sexual encounters that he cannot truly say Â if he regrets or not, and seems to assume in a lot of situations that love and sex are tied to such a degree that one instantly assumes the other, despite what logic would often times dictate, Edgar being a very logical man. Combined with social awkwardness inherited from an isolated and, some might say, introverted lifestyle, and it's safe to assume Ed has a hard enough time just getting into a healthy relationship, let alone consummating and having children.

But does he want them? To be frank, Edgar is still young, and has only recently come of age where, if he were in a tribal/clannish setting, he'd be competing for breeding rights. So, the urge is definitely there, but when it comes down to Ed's opinion on the matter, he is so terribly confused by the current state of affairs he is not even sure there is room for children in his life. If there is, Ed still fears the premise, because there is simply no way to "test the water" in regards to this, and if he messes it up, he faces not only ruining his own life, but destroying the life of someone else (who also happens to be his own flesh and blood). Ed certainly has a wealth of knowledge to share, and whoever is raised by him would be clever, indeed, but Ed is not sure he'd be the best parent. If the proverb "We are our parent's children" is to be believed, Edgar had terrible parents, and therefore, would be a terrible parent himself.

Caspar · **02-18-2015, 08:14 PM**

I think it's fortunate that Vira found morally upright people to learn from. With a bit more ruthlessness, I could see her doing the Heihachi style parenting. (Dropping your kid off tall things to toughen them up and make them badass. He's done a cliff then an active volcano, a helicopter over a volcano, then SPACE...) Vira isn't evil but could have grown it. The training from hell would tame even a "tiger mom"

Klynzahr · **02-18-2015, 09:56 PM**

I guess it's just one of those things about playing older characters. Babies started coming a while back and they are characters in their own right by now.

Daniwyda and Iyrnahct have four grown and nearly grown children. The eldest, Klynzahr (now 28) was the only daughter from Iyrnahct's first marriage and retains no memories of her biological mother. Ginshaw (25) was an orphaned mid lander, who attached himself to Iyrnahct at the age of seven. Daniwyda became a surrogate motherÂ to the pair of them, when she and Irynahct were wed eighteen years ago.

Although the initial responsibility was a bit of a shock for Dani, she quickly grew to enjoy her little family and went on to have two sons with Iyrnahct. Merlanka, the elder, is now 15 and Danisil is almost 13.

If you had asked Dani twenty years ago, she would certainly have told you that she wanted sons (and many of them). Her parenting style with all of the children has emphasized strong morals, and allowing them to learn through their mistakes. While Iyrnahct is a quiet and doting father, Dani has been known to teach her children to swim by throwing them from the deck of a moving ship and encourage the occasional fistfight "fer th'right cause." Sometimes I wonder how she hasn't given her poor husband a heart attack.

Thanks to the events at Cartenue Dani is actually young enough to have another child but it would be unlikely. Her focus will probably continue to be caring for the family that she has and making up for the time that she lost.

Cliodhna Eoghan · **02-18-2015, 10:18 PM**

okay i'll admit first glance i thought this said "rabies!" and that's why i looked... >.>;
that being said, i'll toss in my two gil on the subject in attempts to distract from my misread.
clio is not a child person. she doesn't find them cute, cuddly, sweet, adorable or anything revolving around that. she also has no wish or desire to get pregnant and have one at any point in her life, including the times she's been with erik. nope, doesn't even want a kid with him. while we're on the subject; she also has a deep and very reserved dislike for his daughter. though they've only met on rare occasions; she's a breathing reminder of erik's earlier marriage and also acts like a smaller version of her mother which clio finds also incredibly annoying.

Elysia · **02-18-2015, 10:21 PM**

I approve of this thread. I love children and I think Eorzea could use a lot more younger player characters running around. :3

Avis, on the other hand, has virtually no maternal instinct whatsoever. She is determined to never have any children, because of how free-spirited she is - it would simply not be convenient to have a vulnerable being latch onto her and take up a huge amount of her time and resources. She's also not particularly interested in children themselves anyway, curiously enough; one would expect her to, considering the extent to which she romanticizes her own childhood. She strongly dislikes brats and the kind of emotional manipulation she thinks they perform on people.Â

Unless the kid in question happened to be exceptionally bright and asked all the right questions.Â Rolleyes

Kurt S. · **02-18-2015, 10:52 PM**

(02-18-2015, 09:56 PM)Klinzahr Wrote: Dani has been known to teach her children to swim by throwing them from the deck of a moving shipÂ

This line....it reminds me so much of Kurt's childhood and what his mom did to him when he was 5...to see how seaworthy her child was.

Oh yeah on the subject forgot to add Keil's and Momo's stands on this.

As for Keil, well let's just say he got someone pregnant and doesn't know about it yet >.> Though I think he'll stop following the riddle trail when he does find out. He'll stop trying to wrestle with Dravinians in Coerthas at the moment. He'd slow down, be a bit more careful and that's something because he's very cautious ever since meeting Vari and before her.

He's going to be stupidly giddy around his kid. He's got so many ideas for some bonding and, much like Kurt, probably play around with the kid too. Effectively being a second son rather than a father. Of course he's never thought much about having kids so what happens isn't so fleshed out.

As for Ramona...heh, I wonder how she'll even find a guy after I complete the WoD set on her and cue *spoiler.* Granted her luck with men is nonexistent so she doesn't exactly think about things like these. She'll try to raise them as best as she can and maybe teach them how to be a firebrand like her...because everything can be solved with fire and explosions. If the guy doesn't do anything, she'll have pyromaniac children, that's for sure. They'll also probably learn to call Ququki Quki as "Cookie," adopting their mother's method of naming things. As for how many children? I dunno 3 maximum, I suppose.Â

Effie...I don't even know where to begin with her. Atoliiiii hallpppp.

Jana · **02-18-2015, 11:04 PM**

Jana's more likely to eat a baby than birth one.

Klynzahr · **02-19-2015, 02:54 AM**

(02-18-2015, 10:52 PM)Chicken Nugger Wrote:
(02-18-2015, 09:56 PM)Klinzahr Wrote: Dani has been known to teach her children to swim by throwing them from the deck of a moving shipÂ

This line....it reminds me so much of Kurt's childhood and what his mom did to him when he was 5...to see how seaworthy her child was.

I'm sure they were not the only seafaring parents to try that tactic. Dani has always been particularly insistent that everyone who sails with her is a capable swimmer. So she was quite horrified when she first met Iyrnahct and learned that his almost four year old daughter had never been taught. In her eyes he was the most neglectful of fathers.

Just for fun, I'll add in the younger generation.

Â Klynzahr is actually quite frightened by the thought of having children. Her own mother died shortly after delivering her, and Klyn's childhood mind contrived all sorts of horrific nightmares surrounding the event. These vague fears were doubled, when she witnessed her stepmother's extremely difficult second labor. If she were to find herself pregnant in the near future, she would probably view it as her own death sentence.

Â As for child rearing, Klyn is probably better prepared than she believes. Growing up at sea, she had few female role models and those she did have were not exactly nurturing types. However after helping to raise three younger brothers, she has amassed a fair amount of experience and would probably turn out to be a kind yet firm parent (once you convinced her she wasn't going to die).

Â Daliane, my Elezen alt, simply has no interest in children. Although she is stubbornly devoted to her family, her lifestyle is built around protecting their assets and building business relations in Ul'dah. So she has little time for anything else. I could only see her settling down if marriage became a political necessity. If that were to happen she would probably avoid parenthood for as long as possible, and if it still became inevitable well... she would probably hire a tutor and nannies, then do her best to forget about the kid. Terrible parent right there.

Kinono · **02-19-2015, 04:46 AM**

(02-18-2015, 10:21 PM)Elysia Wrote: I approve of this thread. I love children and I think Eorzea could use a lot more younger player characters running around. :3

I honestly wish there were a lot less. ;_;

Antain · **02-19-2015, 03:54 PM**

Vaughn does have a teenaged son, but is very disconnected from him. Of course, he found out about the boy only three years ago, so... I mean, he's tried, but the way Vaughn was raised gives him a skewed view of how a parent should be to his child. That said, he does want another child to raise from birth or adopt a youngling, but it's not a goal.

Dogberry · **02-19-2015, 04:13 PM**

Dogberry has a nine year old boy named Rhutshald. He's being raised by his aunt, unaware that Dogberry is his dad. He thinks of Dogberry as his favorite uncle, the fun one with all the stories of adventure. After the calamity, Dogberry was in no state to raise a child and more or less abandoned him. Now he's trying to reconcile and get back into the boy's life.

He's expressed a desire to settle down one day and have some more children, after he gets Rhutshald back, of course. He's talked with Menelwen about it, but with the kind of life they lead now, settling down is out of the question.

SessionZero · **02-19-2015, 04:16 PM**

(02-18-2015, 11:04 PM)Jana Wrote: Jana's more likely to eat a baby than birth one.

Gegenji · **02-19-2015, 04:40 PM**

(02-19-2015, 04:16 PM)SessionZero Wrote:
(02-18-2015, 11:04 PM)Jana Wrote: Jana's more likely to eat a baby than birth one.

Qhora Bajihri · **02-21-2015, 05:19 AM**

I got the idea from somewhere that mixed race babies in Eorzea end up like Lady and the Tramp babies, exact copies of one or the other parent, and that's why there's no half-n-halfs even though there can be half-n-halfs? Where did I get that idea? It's possible my brain just assumed it was an obvious fix. Lala-Roes can just have teeny tiny Roes that grow into normal sized ones. Yeah. That's it. I'm reaching.

Qhora shares T'rahnu's secret. No babies. Ever. Her history makes her averse to the whole concept anyway.

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