RPC has moved! These pages have been kept for historical purposes
Please be sure to visit https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/ directly for the new page.
Poll: How important is OOC level/Achievement? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
|||
Not important at all. | 60 | 55.56% | |
Somewhat important. | 40 | 37.04% | |
Very important. | 8 | 7.41% | |
Total | 108 vote(s) | 100% |
* You voted for this item. | [Show Results] |
How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
|
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 07:33 PM
|
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 07:44 PM
No one's quite addressed my comment about RPing and if there was no way to see someone else's level. The game or yourself (I know some play without the nameplates etc) does not allow you to see a character's level (or even name). Through player search or clicking.
|
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 08:40 PM
Unfortunately for us, role players have a lot of stigma attached to them which makes participation in end game hard. What kind of stigma am I talking about? well...
In the past and recently i've noticed many issues with forming an all roleplayer read group. This doesn't apply to every roleplayer, in fact it might not apply to most but they are trends i've encountered. These all relate to these three factors: 1. lack of PVE knowledge - This is a big one, it is easy to sign up for a group but it is hard to actually perform well. The rotation you may be used to may not be the best for optimal dps. Those shoes? despite being a higher ilevel could be the complete wrong stats for your class. Aside from that, lack of preparation for fights - not knowing exactly the full utility of your class. People often confuse Gear level with DPS output and this isn't the case, I've seen Monks in gear 10 points lower then others out dps monks in all bet in slot. 2. Raid Attendance - I hate to say this, but roleplayers aren't well known for their punctuality. Ever. As a raid leader, you want someone who will always put the raid first and not their lovey dovey chance roleplay scene. Dropping the group one day just to finish a roleplay is not acceptable in a PVE'rs eyes and can often lead to disruptions in the group as a whole. Raids need to operate on schedule with your dedicated group for a team to build, If you don't show up, how are you going to bond with your team mates? know instinctively their move patterns. you won't. Dont fret, though - if something drastic happens, like a real life issue - most groups are understanding. 3. Unrealistic Expectations & Receiving criticism - A lot of roleplayers i've met often have (when it comes to raids) strange expectations. You're not going to down it on your first attempt - if its new content, it might even take you a month to get past the first phase. This is normal - this is called progression raiding. However what comes with progression raiding is advice and council from your team members. Don't feel offended if someone tells you the parser has shown you to be doing low dps, go at a striking dummy and research what you need to do to change things so you and your raid group can continue.  All in all, I think roleplay wise - It isn't important but if you wish to be serious about PVE too, please take int consideration the fact that others put a lot of time into PVE compared to other aspects of the game and will have at last minimal expectations of you. don't be -that guy- who cancels raid for roleplay. Show up, you can always continue rp on skype. Hotaru Ginji || Argasar Mol || Nonorya Dadarya
 SE pls give FFT Moogles. Kupo |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 09:05 PM
Meena, I've noticed that you seem to hammer pretty hard on this concept you've got that roleplayers = bad raiders. It stood out strongly after that one attempt to farm t1 but I didn't want to say anything at the time because I didn't want to sound like an asshole and knew that I was likely to get called out for subpar dps on a job I don't main despite consistently being one of the last people standing on every wipe. That aside, the point is you seem to have this axe to grind against roleplayers being able to raid.
But you yourself are a role-player. Chris Ganale | R'tahz Tia | Yuuna Akashi | Chao Lingshen | Seno Nakakami | L'dran Cresnoble | Garon Crayson |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 09:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2015, 09:21 PM by Meena.)
(06-24-2015, 09:05 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: snip.Aye, I do. I have certain expectations of all players, not just roleplayers. However I do admit I can lose my temper at times, especially when year and a half old content inst' clearable with a party of people in full poetics-rank gear or around. yes, I roleplay, but in moderation. I have a weekly static and progress through both PVE content and enjoy roleplay. This isn't about one particular instance it is about my two year observations. I've formed many statics only to have members drop out for roleplay scenes, to not know the full rotation of their classes. There is no need to insult me with memes or the kind when I'm just trying to offer helpful advice. I'm not speaking from just my perspective but - as part of a PVE guild - this is the perspective of /many/ players. Also if you will read, I did state that my post didn't apply to everyone, so don't take personal offense. ^^ Hotaru Ginji || Argasar Mol || Nonorya Dadarya
 SE pls give FFT Moogles. Kupo |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 09:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2015, 09:27 PM by Aaron.)
(06-24-2015, 07:09 PM)Roda Wrote: ITT: Why RP is hard without a DM.I revoke my earlier post for this ^ If I only looked at the text & /random function id just go write my own fantasy rp story. But I also understand where some "Yes it matters" people are coming from. Example, lets say you meet two people about to fight you. One is decked out in a endgame armor and probably the most badass glowing weapon in their class, the others in a tunic with a weathered weapon. Judging from your /characters/ perception from your mind, which would they be more likely to go "This guy might actually kick my ass." Appearance is just about as important as the actual combat imo. It's why humans even irl are more likely to fight another human than a pit bull. Despite the fact a 160lb human actually has a better chance against a 50lb pit bull than another 160lb human who might know some form of self defense or carry a weapon. Kevin Gates - Told Me
|
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 09:30 PM
If appearance didn't play some minor factor in snap character assessment, why all the kerfuffle about the Glamour system?
|
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 09:32 PM
[[takes out the magitek mod unit]]
A reminder to not call people out by name and to be nice. Would prefer to keep this thread open instead of having forcefully cool it down. [[puts away magitek mod unit]] |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 10:03 PM
(06-24-2015, 08:40 PM)Intaki Wrote: 3. Unrealistic Expectations & Receiving criticism - A lot of roleplayers i've met often have (when it comes to raids) strange expectations. You're not going to down it on your first attempt - if its new content, it might even take you a month to get past the first phase. This is normal - this is called progression raiding. However what comes with progression raiding is advice and council from your team members. Don't feel offended if someone tells you the parser has shown you to be doing low dps, go at a striking dummy and research what you need to do to change things so you and your raid group can continue.This is not roleplayer specific. In my experience if you want to find a group as rife with drama queens and primadonnas as roleplaying communities, you need look no farther than the raiding communities. This is due to the fact that both groups share quite more in common than they typically realize. Both roleplayers and raiders are extremely invested in the game and invested in proving their worth. Roleplayers are tend to be very demanding of lore knowledge and adherence, while raiders are the same way with mechanics and theorycrafting. Both roleplayers and raiders play the game in a manner that is typically very ego-centric ("My character would do this and develop like that"/"I need this piece of gear so I can be the best DD in the raid"). That's not a bad thing, necessarily, but it's just something inherent in the types of individuals that will be typically attracted to the activity. Generalizing one group, especially when coming from a group that is fundamentally similar (if not identical), is not the best game plan. V'aleera's Wiki - https://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages...eera_Lhuil
V'aleera's Tumblr - valeeralhuil.tumblr.com |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-24-2015, 10:20 PM
To address the original topic, it depends--as most things do--on the context.
I personally have never mixed OOC perceptions with IC information, in both positive and negative lights. What I mean by that is that if I'm roleplaying some story with Johnson for a while and his character and my character have interacted fairly regularly, perhaps done some basic RP combat against NPCs and such, and Johnson's character is written as a powerful black mage who can use Enochian, but in-game he's only level 21. In that case, I go with the IC interpretation that his character is a powerful black mage regardless of his in-game level. On the other hand, let's say I'm out roleplaying in the open world and roleplayer Wilson comes up to me and starts talking about how powerful of a magic user he is ICly. Even if he's levelled every single Disciple of Magic to level 95, his OOC game levels will not make me automatically acknowledge him ICly as a powerful and skilled magic user. In both cases, OOC characteristics and achievements are completely irrelevant as to how I acknowledge Johnson's character and Wilson's character. |
RE: How important is OOC achievement when playing a powerful character ICly? |
06-25-2015, 12:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 12:32 AM by Dis.)
Meena Wrote:don't be -that guy- who cancels raid for roleplay. Show up, you can always continue rp on skype. No, no we always can't.  A lot of people, myself included, don't believe in Role-play on Skype because that's a strictly OOC environment.  When I'm on Skype, I'm myself, and not my characters. That said, yeah, skipping out on a scheduled raid for RP sucks.  I always try to wrap up RP before a scheduled run. [ Player Information | XIV Tumblr ] |
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
|
|
|
Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)