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Cato · **07-20-2015, 11:15 AM**

I don't think there's much need to fear 'meta-gaming'. If someone does decide to meta-game information that their character wouldn't realistically have at their disposal...then simply take it as a sign that they're not really someone you want to interact with anyway.

So far I haven't encountered any issues in regards to people abusing the information I've laid out over on my character's wiki page. I do choose to keep some stuff deliberately vague, admittedly, but that's more to do with being my personal preference since I don't want to ruin potential surprises in advance.

Gegenji · **07-20-2015, 11:25 AM**

(07-20-2015, 11:15 AM)Graeham Wrote: I don't think there's much need to fear 'meta-gaming'. If someone does decide to meta-game information that their character wouldn't realistically have at their disposal...then simply take it as a sign that they're not really someone you want to interact with anyway.

So far I haven't encountered any issues in regards to people abusing the information I've laid out over on my character's wiki page. I do choose to keep some stuff deliberately vague, admittedly, but that's more to do with being my personal preference since I don't want to ruin potential surprises in advance.

Yeah, I haven't had much issue with anyone using any of the substantial information I have in Chachan's page. Plus, I like to think that having the information available might also help as possible hooks? I dunno. I think it'd be neat for someone to see something and go "Oh hey, I think we could do something fun with that" and then present the idea (preferably OOCly through PMs or a /tell and not just springing it on you, of course).

Also, there's spoiler tags you can use in the wiki for stuff you might want to have there but not immediately out in the open. I've been flip-flopping using them for characters with more sensitive backgrounds... but still want the information there for the aforementioned playing-off of.

Lilia Lia · **07-20-2015, 02:24 PM**

(07-20-2015, 11:25 AM)Gegenji Wrote: I think it'd be neat for someone to see something and go "Oh hey, I think we could do something fun with that" and then present the idea (preferably OOCly through PMs or a /tell and not just springing it on you, of course).

I've done this several times and I find it really fun and interesting.Â Whenever I read about someone who has been a member of the Immortal Flames, or who grew up in Ul'dah, I start thinking of possibilities for sharing elements of our backstories.

That's really the best use of the wikis in my opinion, to give your character context for the purpose of developing RP plot ideas.Â I wouldn't use it as a way of divulging "deep dark secrets" because I think part of the fun of RP is the discovery of these things through interaction.Â We're all taking part in a cooperative storytelling exercise, after all, so we have a responsibility to one another not to spoil the stories that we're telling.

Asmodean · **07-20-2015, 02:54 PM**

(07-20-2015, 02:24 PM)Lilia Lia Wrote:
(07-20-2015, 11:25 AM)Gegenji Wrote: I think it'd be neat for someone to see something and go "Oh hey, I think we could do something fun with that" and then present the idea (preferably OOCly through PMs or a /tell and not just springing it on you, of course).

I've done this several times and I find it really fun and interesting.Â Whenever I read about someone who has been a member of the Immortal Flames, or who grew up in Ul'dah, I start thinking of possibilities for sharing elements of our backstories.

That's really the best use of the wikis in my opinion, to give your character context for the purpose of developing RP plot ideas.Â I wouldn't use it as a way of divulging "deep dark secrets" because I think part of the fun of RP is the discovery of these things through interaction.Â We're all taking part in a cooperative storytelling exercise, after all, so we have a responsibility to one another not to spoil the stories that we're telling.

I think this is the best way to use a Wiki. I have a few hints about where Asmodean story is going to have but for the most part it's just a bit of background for other to look at and see if they like. I just hate looking back at mid cause I always find something I forgot to edit last time I was editing, leading to my annoyance.Â >.< Always miss something. Also a good way to kept track of Asmodean thought on people he has encountered and what he may have heard and in fact knows about them.

Shoshopu · **07-21-2015, 02:14 AM**

So this is weird, and I don't know where else to ask it, but

I've noticed on mine and my friends' character's pages there's a new item in the infobox for "Server" and it's listed as "Unknown". Now when I go to my character's page to edit it, it's not there to edit. I assume it updates based on what category the character's page is in? Since there are Balmung and Gilgamesh categories? How do you change this?

edit: I tried throwing [[Category: Balmung]] in there so it'd update the category the page was in but it still didn't work? Still says unknown? How fix pls advise

edit 2: I guess you're just manually supposed to add | server = Balmung (or Gilgamesh) to the infobox. Kinda sucks, I'd rather it not be there at all or at least be able to change where in the infobox it is

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-21-2015, 11:22 AM**

(07-21-2015, 02:14 AM)Shoshopu Wrote: So this is weird, and I don't know where else to ask it, but

I've noticed on mine and my friends' character's pages there's a new item in the infobox for "Server" and it's listed as "Unknown". Now when I go to my character's page to edit it, it's not there to edit. I assume it updates based on what category the character's page is in? Since there are Balmung and Gilgamesh categories? How do you change this?

edit: I tried throwing [[Category: Balmung]] in there so it'd update the category the page was in but it still didn't work? Still says unknown? How fix pls advise

edit 2: I guess you're just manually supposed to add | server = Balmung (or Gilgamesh) to the infobox. Kinda sucks, I'd rather it not be there at all or at least be able to change where in the infobox it is

The server (along with Au Ra, Doma, sharlayan) tags were added recently. It should be an optional field as per Freelance Wizard's explanation here.

The current infobox template can always be checked here as well!

https://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages...-character

FreelanceWizard · **07-21-2015, 01:14 PM**

There was a pretty big demand for a server field that could do auto-tagging, so I added it in. I just changed it so that it's fully optional (i.e., if you don't provide it, it doesn't appear, as opposed to defaulting to "Unknown").

In terms of positioning, there's no real way to move fields around in the infobox at a user's command, and no matter where the field is placed, someone isn't going to like it. Tongue

So, I just put it before the 6 optional stat blocks. If you really want the server to be at the end, you can tag the page manually and add server as one of the 6 optional stats in the infobox.

-no longer matters- · **07-21-2015, 04:03 PM**

Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-21-2015, 04:07 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:03 PM)War Siren Wrote: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

It's got some visual editing, but not really. Wiki code is shortcuts for the HTML it eventually gets rendered as. The editor would have tools for things like bullet points, lists, bold, etc.

Are you trying to make a page without using a template though?

-no longer matters- · **07-21-2015, 04:09 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:07 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:
(07-21-2015, 04:03 PM)War Siren Wrote: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

It's got some visual editing, but not really. Wiki code is shortcuts for the HTML it eventually gets rendered as. The editor would have tools for things like bullet points, lists, bold, etc.

Are you trying to make a page without using a template though?

No I swiped my old characters template but the code parts to change color etc add symbols just confuses the hell out of me. XD

Sigil.9054 · **07-21-2015, 04:10 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:03 PM)War Siren Wrote: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

No, but it's not HTML. It's wiki markup. Kinda like BB code for forums, and the text editor does have a toolbar to help you out.

EDIT: Ah, and I'm slow. Ah well.

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-21-2015, 04:13 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:10 PM)Sigil.9054 Wrote:
(07-21-2015, 04:03 PM)War Siren Wrote: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

No, but it's not HTML. Â It's wiki markup. Â Kinda like BB code for forums, and the text editor does have a toolbar to help you out.

EDIT: Ah, and I'm slow. Â Ah well.

well.....you can use HTML in wiki markup. A good example of this is seen in the Bancroft templates

-no longer matters- · **07-21-2015, 04:19 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:13 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:
(07-21-2015, 04:10 PM)Sigil.9054 Wrote:
(07-21-2015, 04:03 PM)War Siren Wrote: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for wiki? Because I get lost on html.

No, but it's not HTML. Â It's wiki markup. Â Kinda like BB code for forums, and the text editor does have a toolbar to help you out.

EDIT: Ah, and I'm slow. Â Ah well.

well.....you can use HTML in wiki markup. A good example of this is seen in the Bancroft templates

Not sure which the one I'm using is. I'll have to look at the other templates available maybe switch it out.

Sigil.9054 · **07-21-2015, 04:21 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:13 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: well.....you can use HTML in wiki markup. A good example of this is seen in the Bancroft templates

True. I guess my main point is that you don't *have* to use HTML. But, yeah, the Bancroft templates have a good chunk in there.

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-21-2015, 04:54 PM**

(07-21-2015, 04:19 PM)War Siren Wrote: Not sure which the one I'm using is. I'll have to look at the other templates available maybe switch it out.

Looks like a Bancroft-based template, so colors are done in HTML.

I'd highly recommend using something like this if your trying to find the code for a color! (it's free and web-based)

https://color.adobe.com/create/color-wheel/

The hex code is what you'd want to replace to change the colors. For large replacements, I'd suggest copying all the wiki code into a plain-text editor (notepad works!) and using the replace command. It can save you a lot of time.

If you've got questions on editing stuff, lemme know!

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