
(12-31-2014, 08:46 AM)Gegenji Wrote: What's even better? According to the military categorization of language by difficulty, English is the ONLY Category V. Chinese and Japanese and a few others are Category IV, and the Romance languages are down at... Category II since they all follow a simple and understandable conjugation structure that's more or less interchangeable between them.
But yeah. Thanks to all the rules that aren't ("i before e except after c", anyone?) and special cases and such, English is rated the hardest language to learn. Learning that makes me all the more impressed with those who seek to learn to speak it. And this is from someone who at some point learned (and subsequently forgotten due to lack of use) bits of French, Spanish, Latin, and Arabic.
Military categorization seems to be biaised as scaling the difficulty "when you're english native speaker". Difficulty only depends on what is your native language.
For example :
- If you're japanese native, learning chinese might be confusing at first but would be easier for you than learning french or english 'cause it's obviously really different from what is your native language.
- If you're french native, learning latine languages such as italian or spanish is easier as the sentence structure and the words are similar. Germanic forms and (of course) languages using different sort of structures and letters such as arabic or japanese / chinese language are more complicated. English is, for us french, fairly easy as it comes with more simple rules for conjugation and grammar (example : "to go" in english vs "aller" in french, it's the same verb, and it's not a complicated one in french)
- If you're english native. Oh well, can't help than to think that the most complicated for english native is to have a system motivating the young to learn another language. People often told me that language is an option in many schools in USA which surprised me.
As a result, I found that most of intolerant a*ses are those who never learned another language (and look like there are a lot of those out there). Those who did and actually used their knowledge and so, faced the same situation as us are usually nice and willing to help.
Also,
This is a message from a RPer to fellow RPer.
Please. PLEASE !!! When you're facing someone who isn't native (or you suspect isn't) and suddenly one of their sentence comes totally off / not being in phase of the RP / weird and will have some consequences on your reactions (and sometimes HEAVY consequences).
CHECK OOC WHAT THAT PERSON MEANS, THIS MIGHT BE A TRANSLATION FAIL
We can totally fail in RP too.
We can totally fail to catch the meaning of a sentence and blurp out weird answer.
We can be overly surprised by the reaction of your char because our sentence is normal for us and WTF for you.
We can totally back off rping in english as it's HARD and sometimes people aren't tolerant and expecting perfection.
It is often hard for us to read accents and while we can be naturaly slow answering (as checking meaning / fetching vocabulary / double checking answer) it can become even worse when we understand half of the sentence.
So just please. Please, please, please. I know it's easy to forget while immersed. But don't overreact. Ask. Communicate. Ask twice if necessary. Even three times. Just make sure before doing something that will change the relation between your char and another.
If you feel that something is wrong, you might be right !!!