
(10-30-2015, 09:13 PM)Sinjo Wrote: It looks like you're grasping at straws man. You're not really providing any reason these things aren't Rogue-likes, other than you don't think they are. The games are classified under those tags for a reason.
I'm not going to derail the topic, but you can't say your opinion is fact. The term represents more than games that are like rogue. In fact, grammatically. "Like rogue" and "rogue like" imply different things. E.g "This game is like rogue. it plays the same." and "This is rogue like, it's got aspects of rogue in it."
It's not straws, it's just fighting back against the extremely casual term for games that have nothing to do with Rogue or it's successors besides some glossed over similarities.
The games play nothing like Rogue, ergo they are not like Rogue. "Crushing difficulty" with "permadeath" refers to lots of titles.