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(11-06-2015, 04:42 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(11-06-2015, 04:35 AM)Verad Wrote: Are there any hidden stipulations in this? I do not mean to accuse of goalpost shifting, but it gets really annoying posting a statistic that meets criteria and then find out, "Oh, well, that doesn't really count because . . . "
I can't remember (sorry, it's really late and I'm very tired) if it was you or someone else who sort of compared the situation to the way LGBT people were treated before the gay rights movement. But then LGBT people organized into activist groups that got together and acted as a large organization. Remember that being gay was illegal, too, for a very long time. I'm talking about groups like ACT UP, GLAD, Lambda, National LGBTQ Task Force, etc. As a group, their representatives could and can definitively say, "We represent more than ourselves." Though, of course, there are a literal plethora of groups representing LGBTQ people. But since they're all organized, how convenient if you look to see what they are advocating for, you can start playing matching games. When every single organization is advocating for similar or the same things, it's pretty easy to say, "Well, it would seem the majority of LGBTQ people feel this way."
Additionally, I know you mentioned earlier that actually putting studies and surveys together is difficult, but I don't think it's impossible. LGBTQ people weren't seen as a significant enough population to pay attention to and actually survey or study on a wide scale until they began to organize and demand rights.
So yeah.
I agree with this a lot, I do. But do consider that there may be a difference in organizational capacity between being gay and the act of homosexual or non hetero sex being illegal, and being in the sex industry and that being illegal.
the history of sexual freedom movements in the US is really full of stupidity. I mean, bisexual people are still being snubbed by some sexual identity groups because reasons. We are moving forward, but it's slow.