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(11-06-2015, 04:35 AM)Calliope Cloverbloom Wrote:Those in the military's active combat divisions usually expect harm to themselves because it is literally a part of what they do. They understand, or should anyway where appropriate, that they are expected to risk their lives. That doesn't mean they're not going to try and avoid it if they can. And like what was mentioned before, lighter consequences of their work, like being hated by noncoms, don't go over well with some of them either. A sex worker doesn't go into their trade expecting to fight for their life as if it is somehow part of the job description. There's no reason why they should not endeavor to make their work more comfortable even if it is illegal. (Though it shouldn't be.) Even if they are aware of the risks involved in being in such a potentially dangerous industry, should they just accept it then as integral to the trade? There's being aware of potential dangers and then there's having dangers foisted upon you for reasons totally unrelated to the nature of your job itself. I cannot accept such twisted logic.(11-06-2015, 04:26 AM)Verad Wrote: You ever see a guy at Starbucks get the shit beaten out of him for making a latte wrong, and then the cops at best don't pursue charges because he was asking for it, working in that job, or, at worse, arrest him instead?
If you did, god damn, you have some hardcore coffee shops.
Nope, I can't say that I've ever seen that happen to a barista. I've heard of it happening to plenty of people in plenty of job types, though, and every single one of them was working in that job because they chose to do that job and did so with an understanding of the risk they were accepting in the process.
Are we next going to have a forum topic about how it's unacceptable to call a soldier a soldier, and we have to refer to them as "government civil defense personnel" or some nonsense? Hey, those guys accept jobs where risk of injury or death are a part of their job, too. Let's include them in this discussion if that's your basis of argument.
I figured this thread would blow up and it didn't disappoint. Safe to say, I would rather err on the side of not bothering people. I think any person making a request as politely as OP has should be at least considered. The usual aggressive way I see online doesn't hold a candle to this. At the very least it got me to listen, and I'm going to keep it in mind from now on. I'm not really all that keen on people deciding to represent a group alone, but I like how the message was presented and think its worth honoring. I've got plenty of feelings regarding what should be considered offensive and deliberate manipulation of language, but ultimately I have less invested in the matter than the people who truly care about it. I don't consider it "political correctness" to just be polite.
I did find it interesting to learn where the term came from. I thought, with my meager Latin education, that it came from the words for before and stand, as in stand before you soliciting. I didn't know even then it had a negative connotation. Myself I'd never heard it used in anything but a fairly clinical, neutral context, compared to the more overtly offensive slang.
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