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(11-06-2015, 04:55 AM)Zhavi Wrote: ...hmm, okay, yeah. I was gonna argue more but there was a genuine reason for gay men and lesbians to not join up with organized groups either, on account of getting beat up or shit on by the law.
But I really hate the social stigma about sex and sexuality. It's so stupid. I once tried to argue with my mother about sex and sexuality, and her response was so rooted in catholic moral high ground -- it was terrifying. Because not only did she think she was objectively right, but she genuinely believed that if she could only get me to agree with her point of view that she could save my soul.
So by being hurtful, and crass, and completely bullheaded to any other way of life, she was helping me.
That's what terrifies me. That's why it's not words that I hold truck with, but lack of education, closed moral values and lack of friendly discourse. Hell, I mean, I see that people think this thread is stupid -- I don't.
Why? Because it makes people talk. It gets the subject on peoples' minds. It exposes people to something that maybe they don't see in their day to day lives. And I think that is incredibly important.
Even if I disagree with the OP.
Speaking from one child of a very religious mother to another: I have had this exact same conversation with my mom. She has assumed a litany of things about my personal beliefs because I question what she reposts on Facebook, or watches on Fox News. Because I point out to her that, well, actually, Jesus didn't say that, and actually, he said this and how come we aren't doing that, etc.
But just remember that your mom loves you, and as misguided as she may be, there is nothing a mother won't do to keep her babies safe. And you're gonna be her baby no matter how big you get.
Talking is good. I'm not so sure about this thread, but once discussion appeared, it got much better.
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