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(07-16-2013, 09:34 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: I know you say it wouldn't, but I feel if I said anything there would be a negative slant whenever you looked in me and mines direction if I did.
One more edit for good measure: It's no one in my guild saying anything, just want to make that clear. XD
(07-16-2013, 10:23 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: This last reason is why I was quite reluctant to post anything on this thread and, when I did, why I put the big disclaimer in the second paragraph. I share ArmachiA's fear of receiving retribution for offering some honest feedback. Even as I type this, I'm concerned that someone's going to look at it and say, "AHA! FreelanceWizard is the guilty one! He's been stabbing us in the back this whole time and is foolish enough to admit it in public! Prepare the pitchforks and torches!" I obviously don't think that's the case or I wouldn't say anything at all (hey, I play political LARPs, I know how to keep my mouth shutBecause these two don't seem uneasy or afraid to voice their opinions.).
So far people have gone back at these two to defend Crystalline. Weather it was polite or not, if this is supposed to be a thread to let people express their opinions. Let them express these opinions and not be met with any defense unless the thread is about to be closed and all is being clarified by the original poster. Not doing this will just result in a huge debate over LS/RPC politics which I don't think you intended, Eva.
To stay on topic I'll give my opinion. I judge individuals based on how they represent themselves but do not judge the LS they come from based on their actions alone. (Several from the same shell giving bad impressions can make me wary of an LS though!) Many will judge individuals on their impressions of them and it can also carry over to the linkshell they represent. Wanting to or not, every pearl holder you have represents the LS. It is the leader's job to make sure they aren't letting people have false assumptions or are poorly representing your linkshell.
I think instead of trying to weed out who is saying what or whatever people go on about rumors you need to turn your ear inward and see if such rumors are true or not. If they are true, hand out discipline as is necessary to involved members. If they're not, shrug it off because when you're big people will spread rumors no matter what if no one in your shell is doing this then don't worry and let the rumors die.
Personally I've yet to really hear rumors about Crystalline. But I don't care for hen house chatter anyway, so maybe I'm deaf to them.
(07-17-2013, 05:51 PM)Aysun Wrote:I just worry that a thread made with good intentions is going to go wrong! People are going to defend the shell because they have found friends there and care about it, it's human nature. Just as it's human nature for people to feel edgy about expressing things they've heard or feel if it may have a negative impact on those who understandably care about it. Hell I didn't even notice till now that you were part of Crystalline cause LS controversy and who is in what never usually comes to my attention unless I tend to notice there are many under the same banner exhibiting the same behavior good or bad. (This happens to be a thread about an LS so-yeah I noticed!)(07-17-2013, 04:20 PM)Rhynka Wrote: I have a simple question about how this thread seems to be going. How come an honest opinion was asked for and those who gave it appear to now be defending themselves?I don't really see that myself at all. What I do see is people who are giving opinions, exactly like Eva asked for, but some of them are (understandably) nervous to do so, so they are providing disclaimers. That's exactly what I did when I replied to Everwatch's thread like this. Disclaimer: this is my own experience/opinion, not meant to be bashing, etc. At least, that's what I'm seeing. XD I hope that no one here feels the need to defend what they're saying. The purpose of this thread for us is to listen to what people are saying, not to make them feel they need to argue points.
For those who are concerned or confused about the purpose of this thread.. In the past, when Everwatch sought feedback like this, it did provide information they needed to adjust some policies and methods they used. That's why I encouraged Eva to make this post.
So far, the feedback provided has shown us that the wording in our Linkshell post can use some work, because it is giving the wrong impression about us. It has also brought to light the misconception about the leadership of the RPC's involvement in Crystalline, and hopefully cleared it up since only two of our members are also involved in the moderation team, and it's just coincidence like the Blue Skies members.
The fact that many of Crystalline's members are heavily involved in the RPC I figured would be a good thing for the shell and encouraging to people to see if they would be interested, but it's surprising to see the perceptions of the "in crowd" and such.. That definitely means there is this air of a clique, which while many of us are friends OOCly, is not something we want to be. While actual recruitment is temporarily closed due to IC, we have kept our website up and encouraged people to join it if they are interested in the pearl. We have a special "Hopeful" status on the website for just that reason. It allows people more access to the forums and the OOC Chatterbox on the site so we can all start to get to know each other even if no one can actually join due to the shell being in this state of development. I'm not sure that many people knew about this option.
While I can't agree more with  Zizirimu's response to the idea of rumors.. they are what they are. They exist, and they trickle back to people. While making a thread like this isn't about to somehow magically change everyone's opinions or erase rumors, nor is that its purpose, it will help us adjust things such as the text on our LS page and the like so we are more clear in our goals. Hopefully this will help us in future, in organizing inter-LS relationships, our recruitment and events! I for one appreciate everyone's honesty fully thus far!
I just know that if people have the option to argue or debate opinions it's gonna flood over what really needs to be heard, hence I'm not gonna respond in here again so as not to clutter things up worse!