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01-03-2014, 11:57 AM
(01-03-2014, 10:56 AM)Ildur Wrote: An alternative to the Padjals doing the teaching is for that first "very special" White Mage to have started teaching magic to other people, and those people taught others, and those others to others and so on and so forth.

Quote:the whole reason padjal are born is to serve in that role

That is not true. Padjal are basically the Elementals' "chosen ones". Their purpose isn't to have White Magic but to act as a direct link between nature (the Elementals) and Gridanians. They are given White Magic the same way you could give a carpenter a hammer: his purpose isn't to hold the hammer but to make furniture.

White Mage is tricky. There is a reason only Padjal know White Magic. 


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History LessonIn the Fifth Umbral Era, there was a great freeze which encompassed the whole world. Most Miqo'te players recognize this as the time when the first miqo'te tribes crossed over to Eorzea. Now, the Umbral to Astral switch occurred when, in order to survive the harsh winter, modern magic was discovered. The very first mages figured out how to cast Fire and keep themselves warm through the freeze. Fast forward through the Fifth Astral Era to where this simple Fire spell for the sole purpose of survival has become Fire III and Flare and all manner of destructive magics made for the sole purpose of war and showing off. Shantoto bringing down a star just to make staves from its rubble comes to mind.

To counterbalance, White Magic or Succor was born. (It's hinted that the Elementals taught this to those mages who lived in the Twelveswood at the time.) However, even White Mages began to seek bigger and better spells and so sullied the purity of Succor. Enraged by the abuse of their power, the Elementals summoned a great flood that washed away the tainted magic of Eorzea. That is why the study and practice of Black and White Magic is forbidden. 

Now we fast-forward again to the next relevant bit of the White Mage story. We go to c.500 years before current time. The Elementals have forbidden the elezen or anyone really from entering the Twelveswood after what happened in the Sixth Umbral Era. So the elezen built a great city beneath the Wood called Gelmorra. There they tried to find a way to communicate with the elementals. Ultimately they were unsuccessful until Hyur began to integrate into their society. Where there was bloody war between the Hyur and Elezen everywhere else in the world, in Gelmorra, the elezen and the hyur embraced for a common purpose of living in the Twelveswood. It is quite possibly through this expression of love and good faith that changed the Elemental's minds about the races of men. 

The elementals sent moogles to attempt to bridge the communication gap and eventually Conjury was born. Conjury is NOT succor. It is simply the aetherial manipulation of Nature. But these early Conjurers were able to hear the Elementals. This is where the Pact of Gelmorra was formed. The Pact basically can be summed up to: The Elementals will allow you to live in their woods so long as you protect the wood, do not harm it, do not take from it in excess, etc. Should you break the Pact, you not only risk the safety of everyone in the Wood, but everyone in the world as well. (Now maybe you understand why Gridanians don't trust outsiders at all. Most outsiders are unaware of the Pact, yet Gridanians will pay the price of any ignorant actions they take against the Wood.)


So, now that the basic history lesson is out of the way, we move on to the second (private) part of the Pact. Select gifted Conjurers were chosen by the Elementals so that their children would become Padjal. The Elementals knew that without the power of Succor, it would be nearly impossible to heal the hurt that had been done to the Wood. So the Elementals taught it to the Padjal. Should Succor or White Magic ever be abused for any reason though, the Pact would be void and all those within the wood would perish. This is why, canonically, White Magic is a closely guarded task of the Padjal only. It is too dangerous to be known by many. Even in the WHM questline, both Padjal have reserves about teaching you Succor and Raya-O-Senna cautions you strongly at the end saying that if you abuse your powers and responsibilities in any way, she will strip the power of Succor from you.

In closing, I believe you can RP as a White Mage if you so desire. But I also believe you need to have a pretty good backstory as to why you have a forbidden power.

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Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Edgar - 01-02-2014, 02:31 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 02:40 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:42 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:19 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-02-2014, 06:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 10:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-02-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 02:34 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 03:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:37 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 08:25 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:38 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 06:33 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-03-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-03-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Rinh Hallani - 01-03-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 01:25 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-03-2014, 01:27 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 02:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 04:02 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Merri - 01-03-2014, 03:40 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 01:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 02:01 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:13 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Naunet - 01-04-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:15 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 02:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 03:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:50 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-04-2014, 05:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Gharen - 01-04-2014, 02:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 03:00 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-04-2014, 03:14 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 01:14 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Whittledown - 01-04-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-04-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 05:29 PM

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