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RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? |
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01-03-2014, 11:23 PM
(01-03-2014, 04:02 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:
(01-03-2014, 03:06 PM)Tlamila Wrote: Fact is, she accepts to teach you only because Towa-A-Kant himself demanded that. And even then it takes her some moments to accept, and it's made clear you are the one and only exception (basically because you are the hero of light).

Now that I'm rewatching the cutscene for Seer Folly, what happens is that the soul crystal flies out of the tree and into your hands, and she interprets that more or less immediately as A-Towa-Cant selecting you as his successor. After commenting that she doesn't know why that would be, then noting that the Quieting needs to be performed by three White Mages, she then goes on to say, in response to A-Ruhn-Senna's complaint about the knowledge being given to someone not of the Padjali:

"And so you would uphold tradition merely for tradition's sake? Even at the risk of incurring the great one's wrath and bringing disaster upon our forest home?"

IMO, the cutscene's a bit more nuanced and offers some opportunities to made generic while still keeping with the general theme (A-Towa-Cant might select multiple successors, for instance, or other Padjal might be more liberal on the concept of "disaster," viewing one or more of the various threats as justification to break with tradition).

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I feel like you're leaving out the context of what is going on.

Raya-O-Senna and A-Ruhn-Senna are being idiots.  They're attempting to handle a situation that requires three White Mages.  Not two.  Three.  The ritual they want to complete explicitly requries three White Mages, but instead of getting their sister - Kan-E-Senna - who should be there to help, they are trying to do it themselves.  Now, Raya-O-Senna makes a comment about not wanting to disturb her because she's just so "busy" in the initial dialogue leading up to the first quest.  But one would think that since this ritual is so damn important that if it's not done, it could invoke the Greenwrath on the entire Shroud, she'd be able to make time for the situation.  As it stands, based on the reason that "Kan-E-Senna is too busy," Raya-O-Senna and A-Ruhn-Senna choose not to tell her at all, and run off to go do it themselves.

Which, in my humble opinion, makes absolutely no fucking sense, but that's what the quest tells you.

When Raya-O-Senna says the line, "And so you would uphold tradition merely for tradition's sake? Even at the risk of incurring the great one's wrath and bringing disaster upon our forest home?" she is not saying, "We have to accept this random dude as White Mage because if we don't, the Great One will be displeased."  She's saying that if they don't have a third White Mage, the ritual will fail and the Great One will eat everyone.  And since they don't have a third White Mage (for what might be the silliest reason ever), they need to accept A-Towa-Kant's judgement and just accept you.


But it's made very, very clear during the rest of the questline that this has never happened before, and that you're the first - and only - White Mage who is not Padjal in like, 500 years.

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Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Edgar - 01-02-2014, 02:31 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 02:40 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:42 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:19 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-02-2014, 06:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 10:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-02-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 02:34 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 03:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:37 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 08:25 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:38 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 06:33 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-03-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-03-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Rinh Hallani - 01-03-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 01:25 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-03-2014, 01:27 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 02:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 04:02 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Merri - 01-03-2014, 03:40 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 01:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 02:01 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:13 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Naunet - 01-04-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:15 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 02:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 03:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:50 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-04-2014, 05:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Gharen - 01-04-2014, 02:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 03:00 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-04-2014, 03:14 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 01:14 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Whittledown - 01-04-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-04-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 05:29 PM

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