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11-20-2016, 07:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2016, 07:36 AM by Valence.)
To be honest, I don't buy much into that either, just saying that stretched explanations could still be found I believe. Like, nothing is said that the Meracydian miqo'te migrated to Aldenard... over the ice, right? They just happened to migrate during the 5th Umbral Era, and maybe we mixed up that with the Ice Calamity and made a shortcut of both out of it as it seemed logical? Maybe they migrated with... boats?

Thing is, we are speaking about the 5th Umbral Calamity. This is hundred of years after the fall of the Allagan Empire, thus the migratory wave is definitely not fleeing the Allagan Empire, or they would have done so during the 4th Umbral Era (Earth Calamity). 

There is something in there that is pestering me, in that it is said that the Allagan Empire persecuted miqo'te from Aldenard, which made them flee to Ilsabard, probably around the 4th Umbral Era and the Fall of the Empire, or even before. How Seekers managed to live in such a cold place is beyond me, but that's another story and can probably be explained anyway.

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If the Allagan used to persecute miqo'te tribes in Aldernard, why? Were they Hyur supremacists and did that to all other races? Or where there only Hyurs/Allagans living there, with a few miqo'te? What were the demographics of the Allagan Empire? But the question remains, why where they persecuting them? Because Meracydia was full of them? Because Meracydia was THE enemy to put down? That's a possibility that can make a lot of sense. 

So, in short we have the Allagan Empire that persecutes the miqo'te living in Aldernard, and is still at war with Meracydia, and this is the 3rd Astral Era. Then the 4th Umbral Calamity of Earth happens, the Allagan Empire crumbles and the Syrcus Tower is buried. Meracydia by that time though, saw the victory of Allag and got turned into a wasteland, with very, very few survivors that shut their doors to anyone. That by itself, makes it hard to believe that those handful of meracydian survivors left and emigrated. They could however have done so before the downfall of Bahamut and the Warring Triad, and the annihilation of their land.

Where would they have gone? Possibly Aldenard. Where they got persecuted by their victors, and oppressors, which further make them flee to Ilsabard (also controlled by Allag, which makes that weird as you say, so they were just probably fleeing endlessly across continents all controled by their enemy, everywhere, since Allag was basically dominating all the planet anyway by now). Then, the Allagan fall happens. Those miqo'te survivors have made a very long journey over generations to Ilsabard, an inhospitable land with harsh climates. The 4th Astral Era (The Forgotten Age) unfolds, and people are oppressed everywhere under radical obscurantism, until the 5th Umbral Calamity happens and frozes everything beyond the tropics and allows those same miqo'te to get back to Aldenard over the frozen sea, since Gyr Abania is blocked.

Well, that's how I understand it, but I may have missed things, or just be wrong mind you. But we have to keep in mind that we are speaking of a period that spans over 500 years, between the 3th Astral Era and the 5th Umbral Era.

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11-20-2016, 07:57 AM
Thanks to all for the info, especially with the transcriptions. I haven't really commented on them much, largely because I'm still digesting the information.

While I appreciate that the history is probably muddled in-universe for perfectly understandable reasons (viz time), it does make it a bit more difficult to work with out of game when we don't have concrete answers.

Putting all that aside for the moment (because thinking about it too hard makes me tempted to just give it up as a huge mess), what sort of population does each of the city-states have, and how many outlying settlements are significant enough to be potential origins? I ask because I'm thinking of having my character come from around Sharlayan, as opposed to the city itself. In-game the city-states are kind of deserted, which I assume to be a gameplay conceit. For example, the actual number of NPCs in the areas around Limsa Lominsa would not have been significant enough to constitute an incursion into Kobold territory, and yet here we are.

I'm not sure if Sharlayan even has outlying settlements in the first place, but every other city-state does (with the possible exception of Ishgard, since I haven't gotten into Heavensward content yet), of varying sizes, eg compare Summerford Farms and Moraby Drydocks.
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11-20-2016, 08:55 AM
(11-20-2016, 07:57 AM)Yian Kutku Wrote: What sort of population does each of the city-states have, and how many outlying settlements are significant enough to be potential origins? I ask because I'm thinking of having my character come from around Sharlayan, as opposed to the city itself. In-game the city-states are kind of deserted, which I assume to be a gameplay conceit.

Definitely a gameplay conceit. While we don't know exact or even relative populations of the city-states, we can guess Gridania has the smallest population and Ul'dah the largest. There is lore for the settlements and a brief summary of history in a post I made a while back.

-Eorzean Settlements Lore

Unfortunately, we don't know a ton about the Old World, even with the lore book. We do know that the city-state is on an archipelago and that the city is divided across many islands. For example, the Studium, home to Sharlayan's students of Baldesion, was situated on the Isle of Val, which was obliterated by unknown magicks. However, Sharlayan still exists. So it's likely that there are various settlements spread out across the Sharlayan Archipelago that house the city-state's population. Other than that, you'd likely have to look into Sharlayan's colonies, though the only one we know of with any certainty is the Dravanian colony, which was abandoned.

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