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Kage · **01-30-2014, 07:56 PM**

I'm actually fine with the stacking part but I did really eat it because of the stack during phase 5 and... well yeah ate it.

I'll have to get used to Manawall and manaward but I'm always worried that if i was late with the strafe that the manawall would be too late and I'd go flying.

LiadansWhisper · **01-30-2014, 08:06 PM**

(01-30-2014, 07:56 PM)ExKage Wrote: I'm actually fine with the stacking part but I did really eat it because of the stack during phase 5 and... well yeah ate it.

I'll have to get used to Manawall and manaward but I'm always worried that if i was late with the strafe that the manawall would be too late and I'd go flying.

You'll need to have it up before the cast starts, so if you're going to use it in that manner, make sure to use it on CD. Â If you put it up after the cast starts, a lot of the time the server doesn't recognize it for whatever attack is coming, but the one -after- that.

Kage · **01-30-2014, 09:03 PM**

(01-30-2014, 08:06 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: You'll need to have it up before the cast starts, so if you're going to use it in that manner, make sure to use it on CD. Â If you put it up after the cast starts, a lot of the time the server doesn't recognize it for whatever attack is coming, but the one -after- that.

I see so having the rotations memorized would be a must in order for this to work well. Could you explain what "CD" means? I've seen it used sometimes in other guides but I don't know what it means. I assume cooldown but I don't know why since cooldown (in my experience) meant it had to cooldown before use.

synaesthetic · **01-30-2014, 09:06 PM**

To use something on cooldown is a phrase that simply means to use it every time it becomes available. During Titan HM/EX, as a black mage, I will burn Manawall every time it comes up simply because it has a long duration (60 seconds) and can let me eat a Landslide if I want to do more damage or if I lag and don't get out in time, or if I get trapped in a bad spot by bombs during Phase 5.

LiadansWhisper · **01-30-2014, 09:07 PM**

(01-30-2014, 09:06 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: To use something on cooldown is a phrase that simply means to use it every time it becomes available. During Titan HM/EX, as a black mage, I will burn Manawall every time it comes up simply because it has a long duration (60 seconds) and can let me eat a Landslide if I want to do more damage or if I lag and don't get out in time, or if I get trapped in a bad spot by bombs during Phase 5.

^^ Â What she said!

synaesthetic · **01-30-2014, 09:13 PM**

Yes, and I do agree that if you and members of your group have poor connections, the stacking method for weight is not optimal. If you mess up, you get hit by 3+ and will not survive.

When my company was first learning Titan HM, we scattered, and while this usually worked out, sometimes you'd end up trapping a healer. It adds more RNG to the fight, which I didn't personally like and I prefer the stacking method myself, howeverÂ my internet connection is fantabulous and I very rarely lag except on Mondays, after the reset, when everyone is doing everything all at once.

LiadansWhisper · **01-30-2014, 09:16 PM**

(01-30-2014, 09:13 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: Yes, and I do agree that if you and members of your group have poor connections, the stacking method for weight is not optimal. If you mess up, you get hit by 3+ and will not survive.

When my company was first learning Titan HM, we scattered, and while this usually worked out, sometimes you'd end up trapping a healer. It adds more RNG to the fight, which I didn't personally like and I prefer the stacking method myself, howeverÂ my internet connection is fantabulous and I very rarely lag except on Mondays, after the reset, when everyone is doing everything all at once.

I personally don't have lag issues anywhere but in Coil, and it's only on the ADS trash laser fight. Â Any deaths I have had were 100% my fault, because my connection seems to actually get stronger inside the dungeons.

But other people have lag, and I'm one of those people who really don't enjoy 20+ wipes to things. Â Which, come to think of it, makes me a bit of a masochist for doing hardcore raiding in WoW.Â Dazed

Â 400 wipes on some bosses! Â Cactuar

synaesthetic · **01-30-2014, 09:22 PM**

My guild in vanilla wiped on Vael for three months. Four raids a week, three hours each, and we'd routinely go over raid time.

We did it again for two months with Four Horsemen in Naxxramas.

Kage · **01-30-2014, 09:53 PM**

(01-30-2014, 09:06 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: To use something on cooldown is a phrase that simply means to use it every time it becomes available. During Titan HM/EX, as a black mage, I will burn Manawall every time it comes up simply because it has a long duration (60 seconds) and can let me eat a Landslide if I want to do more damage or if I lag and don't get out in time, or if I get trapped in a bad spot by bombs during Phase 5.

On that note, when do you pop Manaward? Same thing or much better with the rotation memorized for tumult?

synaesthetic · **01-30-2014, 10:06 PM**

I use Manaward when I know I'm going to take a big magic hit, but won't be able to necessarily get healing. So I tend to save it for emergencies.

Edgar · **01-31-2014, 12:41 AM**

I'm the good guy Dragoon who frees people from Gaols and burst-damages Titan Heart into oblivion. Pretty much.

On an unrelated note, I love your avatar, Synaethetic. Wasn't aware there were other Touhou fans on the forum.

Nebbs · **01-31-2014, 03:36 AM**

(01-30-2014, 09:22 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: My guild in vanilla wiped on Vael for three months. Four raids a week, three hours each, and we'd routinely go over raid time.

We did it again for two months with Four Horsemen in Naxxramas.

If you are talking original WoW 40man Naxx .. oh yea, I'm right there with you Smile

LiadansWhisper · **01-31-2014, 03:45 AM**

(01-31-2014, 03:36 AM)Nebbs Wrote:
(01-30-2014, 09:22 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: My guild in vanilla wiped on Vael for three months. Four raids a week, three hours each, and we'd routinely go over raid time.

We did it again for two months with Four Horsemen in Naxxramas.

If you are talking original WoW 40man Naxx .. oh yea, I'm right there with you

Month and a half on H Anub'arak back in Wrath (I still don't know how many wipes that was).

Six months on H Lich King.

And then 400 wipes on Heroic Lei Shen.

My Wrath guild raided 5 nights a week, 4 hours a night and often went over. Â My MoP guild raided 5 nights a week, 3-4 hours a night, but had working members so rarely went over.

Aleister · **01-31-2014, 05:28 AM**

Not trying to be a butt as I would love to stroll down memory lane of WoW's good times but I'm gonna be a butt. Kinda swaying off-topic from OP's subject. >_>

Future congrats to anyone who gets their relic thanks to USH and awesome to see more FCs helping people with their relic quests. Smile

LiadansWhisper · **01-31-2014, 05:29 AM**

(01-31-2014, 05:28 AM)Aleister Wrote: Not trying to be a butt as I would love to stroll down memory lane of WoW's good times but I'm gonna be a butt. Kinda swaying off-topic from OP's subject. >_>

Future congrats to anyone who gets their relic thanks to USH and awesome to see more FCs helping people with their relic quests.

*doesn't cook dinner*

Starve! Â Evil

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