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V'aleera · **01-15-2016, 05:41 PM**

It can be frustrating dealing with new players that seem utterly incapable of doing anything even after explicit instructions. Fortunately those players are fairly rare.

What is far less rare is a considerably more vile breed of player: the veteran that has zero patience for even the most basic instruction being given to newbies, while being all too happy to take their share of the new player bonus.

LiadansWhisper · **01-16-2016, 03:38 AM**

(01-15-2016, 05:41 PM)Valeera Wrote: It can be frustrating dealing with new players that seem utterly incapable of doing anything even after explicit instructions. Fortunately those players are fairly rare.

What is far less rare is a considerably more vile breed of player: the veteran that has zero patience for even the most basic instruction being given to newbies, while being all too happy to take their share of the new player bonus.

Literally haven't done a dungeon in a month (#dirtycasual), so I can't speak to how it is currently, but prior to Christmas, the number of helpful, nice people I ran into far outweighed those with shitty attitudes in terms of numbers. The vast majority of people seem pretty helpful.

Personally I have no problem allowing people with a poor attitude to die. I've done it before. It's not as easy in FFXIV to kill someone, but it's totes possible as a healer.

And if it's a Group Effort™ to be a total dick, I just leave. No need to subject myself to that crap.

Kellach Woods · **01-20-2016, 08:37 PM**

I've never been a fan of letting someone die.

If only because I relish the challenge of derailing their plans. Mwahahaha.

LiadansWhisper · **01-20-2016, 08:38 PM**

(01-20-2016, 08:37 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: I've never been a fan of letting someone die.

If only because I relish the challenge of derailing their plans. Mwahahaha.

It's a healer thing.

Kellach Woods · **01-20-2016, 08:41 PM**

Even when I heal. At the same time, if I can save the derps I can safely consider that I can heal for peeps that actually care about the game.

LiadansWhisper · **01-20-2016, 08:59 PM**

(01-20-2016, 08:41 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Even when I heal. At the same time, if I can save the derps I can safely consider that I can heal for peeps that actually care about the game.

I'd direct you to the hundreds of threads about the subject on the WoW healing forums, but I'll just put it to you this way - after 7 years of saving people's asses on a regular basis, you start to lose patience with people deliberately being assholes.

And since healing is the one thing the healer actively controls, it's also the one thing the healer can use to effect change.

But I also consistently main healers, and do not enjoy DPS or tanking roles. I would imagine that someone who is not exclusively devoted to healing would likely feel differently.

Warren Castille · **01-22-2016, 10:16 AM**

That's sort of what I was trying to indicate previously: There are people out there willing to explain phases and be helpful and do their job, and these people will be constantly and endlessly buffeted by people either unwilling or unable to heed that advice. After an indeterminate length of time, the helpfulness will erode and you'll be left with the jaded veterans who just don't bother, because it didn't help or contribute in the past.

I'm currently in the "Don't stand in shit, kill adds" explanation of things, which is really the only way to explain most of the stuff in trial roulette right now. I'll add "Don't melee after Seething Eye for 4 seconds" and "Don't move when the grounds frosts over in phase 2" but that's basically the only extra required explanation. Too much time wasted going into detail only to be met with wipes and the zero commendations thing. It's easy to see why people give up.

Patience is not infinite, but ignorance is.

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