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[Discussion] An EU server, for EU roleplayers *UPDATED 14/06*


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Poll: Which server, if any, would you move to given the oppotunity?
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None, stay on Balmung.
25.17%
37 25.17%
Cerberus
4.08%
6 4.08%
Odin
2.72%
4 2.72%
Moogle
1.36%
2 1.36%
Phoenix
2.72%
4 2.72%
Ragnarok
0.68%
1 0.68%
Shiva
2.04%
3 2.04%
Zodiark
1.36%
2 1.36%
Lich
12.93%
19 12.93%
New world, added with 4.0.
46.94%
69 46.94%
Total 147 vote(s) 100%
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Discussion An EU server, for EU roleplayers *UPDATED 14/06*
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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 01:26 PM
As someone who didn't have an issue with the ping after the change, I am still very much considering going to an EU server, if most people can agree on one to join. I've been having an extremely hard time finding an FC and events that're more than just hanging out and doing tavern stuff for the few months I've been on Balmung.

My worries are that not enough people will move over, and it'll end up dead in the water before anything happens. I really, really hope I'll be proven wrong, as I'd love to actually have attainable RP at reasonable times.
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05-17-2017, 01:35 PM
I'm in the camp that thinks we wont get enough folks to create a critical mass. Though it would be nice to have an EU server focused on EU times.

Also I would have to consider the gil position as I would want to buy a house, that would be a big reason to switch for me.

Aside from that we could have more focus on EU RP on Balmung. There are certainly enough of us.

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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 01:49 PM
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I will add to the Lich pool. Mist Ward 9 is becoming known as a hub for RPers and RP FCs, and the small roleplay community there has been extremely supportive and welcoming of my free company of roleplay alts. Not to mention, the server Gil transfer restrictions being loosened could help boost the economy there.

Because there is a raiding community established there as well, EU players who want to do more than just RP can do so there, too.
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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 02:46 PM
(05-17-2017, 01:35 PM)Nebbs Wrote: Aside from that we could have more focus on EU RP on Balmung. There are certainly enough of us.

I would be all for that, but the problems the datacentre location and those of us outside of the server faced with lockouts, let's not get started on how the launch of Stormblood on Aether is going to be, as a raider first I don't really like the sound of giving up my MS and the like for this.

As for the Lich crowd, the same is the case on Cerberus, we all have an RP community, we used to have a rather large one mid Heavensward, an LS of around 50 or so active members, we just didn't see the point of advertising here, if I wanted a small RP community I'd stay on Cerberus, but this is for the hope of a larger RP community on a new server with the enticing benefits bringing in potentially new players who will also be wanting a new start.

So those voting for Lich I personally see why you all are happy, but would you all consider moving if there was a larger RP community on the new server?

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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 03:01 PM
As an NA player (Texas) who has been dicking around some with an alt on Phoenix, other than a slight adjustment period, the ping wasn't really a big deal. However, one of my good friends (PR) said that her ping jumped enough that her main class (MNK) wasn't too viable over there. I know my spouse and I sit around 110 or so. She gets 228ms - 286ms; however, she also uses WTFast, so I'm not sure if that's before or after factoring that in. Even with that handicap, she's still a monster to reckon with, hehe.

I think, arguably, the biggest problem I run into is that I've become so spoiled by the queue times on the Aether datacenter. Since there's such a large NA/EU population there, the queues are nice every time of the day. Contrast that with Phoenix, where a few weeks ago, my spouse and I did a healer/tank queue during their off-hours and were stuck waiting for 20 or 30 minutes before giving up...and that was low level roulette. Luckily, their FC is a decent size and covers a variety of classes.

Anyway, I'd be casting my vote for one of the new EU servers when they are released. The leveling boost will be great for both new players and those wanting to catch up alts or alt classes. It also will make it easier to get some housing.

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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 04:03 PM
My main concern is that whilst lots of events and open RP in my timezone sounds great, will it actually happen in practice? I think we have a fairly substantial EU population on Balmung but the number of events that start before I need to be in bed are completely dwarfed by all the NA-friendly events. People need a lot of time and motivation to get public events off the ground and if there doesn't seem to be that many even on a server as big as Balmung, this worries me.

I'm just not sure a move would be sustainable long-term. I think we'd ideally want all EU RPers to move to the same server so the population is large enough, but I'm already hearing talk about going to X, Y or Z, and trying to organise people spread across many realms is going to be a herculean task. You can't force people to go somewhere else so it'd require a lot of communication and perhaps even negotiation.

All that said, the incentives offered by Square are indeed nice, and I'd be quite tempted to start on a new EU realm - but that's only if I was reasonably certain it would be sustainable. At this point, I'm not.

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RE: An EU server, for EU roleplayers |
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05-17-2017, 04:30 PM
(05-17-2017, 03:01 PM)savail Wrote: As an NA player (Texas) who has been dicking around some with an alt on Phoenix, other than a slight adjustment period, the ping wasn't really a big deal. However, one of my good friends (PR) said that her ping jumped enough that her main class (MNK) wasn't too viable over there. I know my spouse and I sit around 110 or so. She gets 228ms - 286ms; however, she also uses WTFast,

I would try not using WTFast for a bit. One of the main issues with the old location was the old level3 routing behind the ISP's. We are using a different backend connection now so it is worth giving it a shot. For instance the new location is another 1500miles from me but it has 10 less hops to get there.

It's not gonna be a fix for all but it is a fix for lots.

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(05-17-2017, 04:30 PM)Haven Wrote:
(05-17-2017, 03:01 PM)savail Wrote: As an NA player (Texas) who has been dicking around some with an alt on Phoenix, other than a slight adjustment period, the ping wasn't really a big deal.  However, one of my good friends (PR) said that her ping jumped enough that her main class (MNK) wasn't too viable over there.  I know my spouse and I sit around 110 or so.  She gets 228ms - 286ms; however, she also uses WTFast,

I would try not using WTFast for a bit. One of the main issues with the old location was the old level3 routing behind the ISP's. We are using a different backend connection now so it is worth giving it a shot. For instance the new location is another 1500miles from me but it has 10 less hops to get there.

It's not gonna be a fix for all but it is a fix for lots.

I believe you may have misunderstood. I don't use WTFast at all. I am in Texas. My ping was 42 and is now around 57--not even enough to notice. The numbers I listed were her and my pings to the EU servers. I posted them mainly to encourage some of the NA players that playing on the EU servers is still worth looking into, especially if they're on reversed schedules like I am.

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05-17-2017, 04:49 PM
Oh too the EU from the US. As for what the EU servers do for their routing I can't say. But if anything I've heard it's a mess from another game I play.

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05-17-2017, 04:53 PM
That's what I was expecting, too. Honestly, though, it's not too bad. Like I said, the biggest problem is the lack of people playing 24/7 like on the Aether data center.


Also, there are not a lot of idling loafers, which is sad. I love eavesdropping on the idlers on Bal.

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(05-17-2017, 02:46 PM)Anehki Wrote: I would be all for that, but the problems the datacentre location and those of us outside of the server faced with lockouts, let's not get started on how the launch of Stormblood on Aether is going to be, as a raider first I don't really like the sound of giving up my MS and the like for this.

As for the Lich crowd, the same is the case on Cerberus, we all have an RP community, we used to have a rather large one mid Heavensward, an LS of around 50 or so active members, we just didn't see the point of advertising here, if I wanted a small RP community I'd stay on Cerberus, but this is for the hope of a larger RP community on a new server with the enticing benefits bringing in potentially new players who will also be wanting a new start.

So those voting for Lich I personally see why you all are happy, but would you all consider moving if there was a larger RP community on the new server?

I personally wouldn't. There's no reason for me to move as people can transfer over to the new server or create a new character there. I have multiple versions of the same character on many servers. If I wanted to RP with the EU Balmung transfers, I could make another alt. It I wanted to RP on Balmung, I can use my Balmung alt. I don't do anything else with my RP alts, anyway. 

But if Lich's community were to grow, that would be fine, and the people I've talked to who have mains there and RP would be welcoming of newcomers and transfers alike. 

Then again, I'm an NA player, but I'm trying to keep different player perspectives in mind. Not everyone only RPs, so why move all the RPers to a new server when they can join an existing server with a more diverse base population? This way, they have opportunities to take part in a variety of activities rather than just come into contact with a primarily RP community from day one.
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(05-17-2017, 04:54 PM)Nanamo Wrote: Then again, I'm an NA player, but I'm trying to keep different player perspectives in mind. Not everyone only RPs, so why move all the RPers to a new server when they can join an existing server with a more diverse base population? This way, they have opportunities to take part in a variety of activities rather than just come into contact with a primarily RP community from day one.

Because it's baring in mind the server congestion and potential new EU players with a similliar mindset, without an unofficial EU RP server, we will -never- have the chance to make one, basically this same situation happened back at ARR launch, when people look for FFXIV RP they come here, out of curiousity, people direct us here, they try to get on Balmung/Gilg but mainly Balmung as they feel thats their only option half the time.

We should really think of new players mainly in this regard, hopefully Lich gets the bonuses from the free transfers also then it can also be considered, but i guess all we can do is wait for info and see where interest lies.

It's nice NA players are also giving their views, I just hope we make the most out of this transfer situation to set up a potentially great community to help spread out the niche's, whatever EU server we end up on we should all consider situation comes up once in a long occassion (one being ARR launch) and it's our chance to really progress the RP community within FF together! Big Grin

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05-17-2017, 07:21 PM
Mmm, I really do not have anything constructive to since I never knew Lich had some minor RP action going on. More you know, and fortunately my main raiding character in at Lich atm :D

I hope its not too impudent to ask that from which FCs it would be best to look for roleplayers and event makers on Lich? This thread really sparked up my curiousity.

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(05-17-2017, 07:21 PM)Impstatus Wrote: I hope its not too impudent to ask that from which FCs it would be best to look for roleplayers and event makers on Lich? This thread really sparked up my curiousity.

Not at all! Word of Love is one that I know has a good RP population. Their leader runs a Discord server called Silver Valkyrie Events. That channel focuses on RP and RP-related events, and they host a maid/host cafe called The Crystal Crown Cafe semi-regularly. 

The Sultansworn is my FC, which is comprised completely of alts whose mains are on other servers. We focus on NPC roleplayers, but host events every now and then and accept OCs too. We did a Murder Mystery Night and are starting to plan an RP Date auction as well.

I'd recommend getting in touch with Morgana Browne about other RP FCs. She can probably help you find one better than I ever can, since her main is there!
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05-18-2017, 09:05 AM
Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a EU FF Roleplayers discord for those interested in the Unofficial EU RP server possibility? Maybe that will help us all keep communication going and help us all stay on the same page.

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