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RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff |
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07-09-2015, 12:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-09-2015, 12:43 AM by Edgar.)
A Realm Reborn/Heavensward did not advertise their game's content as having a portion that would be "added at a later date", though. Even the AAA industry has the courtesy to advertise its DLC before it screws us with it. 

They said, this is in your game, please look forward to it.

Hell, even the fucking benchmark showed us the content present in the game, the AF2 armor for the Dragoon is right there! You can almost taste it!

Did ARR advertise the Rogue class and Ninja job as a selling point? No. It was content they decided to tack on simply to improve the game, and that's commendable, for sure. But if they had advertised it, and it wasn't present at launch, how many people do you know who wouldn't have let out a collective sigh of existential disgust? Just add a "HAH-HAH" sound effect as the content is yoinked out of players' grasps at the last possible second and you're good to go.

Don't get me wrong. I'm grateful for getting the stuff I did and did not expect. But I am furious for not getting the stuff that was promised to me when they said it would be.

When you advertise one thing, and you fail to deliver on those promises, that is called consumer fraud. And that is serious cause for concern. I don't care if they inevitably do what they promise, but if they say "it's in the game", it better be in the fucking game, or they are lying, plain and simple, black and white, clear as crystal. This is why on-disk DLC is such bullshit.

This is just the start of something ugly, you realize this? In fact, now that I think about it, false promises have been a thing in the game industry for a while, now, haven't they? Want an example?

Peter fucking Molyneux. He's the Fable guy, remember him? The guy who promised to move heaven and earth to make Fable the best player-choice driven game ever? The guy who failed to do any of that and then promised to move heaven and earth to make Fable II the best player-choice driven game ever while calling the previous a load of shit? Then kept this cycle going over and over?


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And he didn't just do it with Fable. He raised expectations with his project, Godus, as well. And he failed.

He has been BSing his consumers with false promises for years, and it is that kind of behavior I just don't fucking tolerate in an industry where we have tragedy all the goddamn time (Just look at Arkham Knight's PC port and tell me that wasn't a train wreck). So imagine my surprise and inevitable disgust when I see the crippling birth pangs of repeat behavior in the development process for an MMO by one of my favorite developers of all time.

So far, the only distinction between the practices there and with this game is that promises are actually delivered on, but with technicalities. "Oh, you're going to have to wait a bit, I'm sorry!" Guh.

It's not as bad as it could be, yet, but why get their hands dirty to begin with? Just stop it, guys, there's no need. If it has to be added at a later date, surprise us with it after the launch in a later patch, but don't advertise it when the game is going to launch and it's not fucking ready! Then I cannot look forward to it.

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Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Melodia - 07-08-2015, 08:47 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Gegenji - 07-08-2015, 08:58 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Vodka Tears - 07-08-2015, 11:25 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Chris Ganale - 07-08-2015, 09:13 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Magellan - 07-08-2015, 09:51 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by -no longer matters- - 07-08-2015, 11:15 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Tumensuns - 07-08-2015, 12:25 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Gegenji - 07-08-2015, 12:28 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Sin - 07-08-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Aya - 07-08-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Aaron - 07-08-2015, 02:14 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Seriphyn - 07-08-2015, 08:28 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Lilia Lia - 07-08-2015, 10:45 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by V'aleera - 07-08-2015, 10:53 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Edgar - 07-08-2015, 10:57 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Melkire - 07-08-2015, 11:48 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Unnamed Mercenary - 07-09-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Edda - 07-09-2015, 12:45 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by KitKat - 07-09-2015, 02:27 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by allgivenover - 07-09-2015, 10:12 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Meena - 07-09-2015, 09:15 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Edgar - 07-09-2015, 12:39 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Coatleque - 07-09-2015, 12:46 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-09-2015, 12:49 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Verad - 07-09-2015, 12:46 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Edgar - 07-09-2015, 12:53 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Verad - 07-09-2015, 12:55 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kage - 07-09-2015, 01:02 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Caspar - 07-09-2015, 03:53 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Tierney Weaver - 07-09-2015, 02:10 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Asmodean - 07-09-2015, 01:10 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by V'aleera - 07-09-2015, 02:06 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-09-2015, 02:26 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Aaron - 07-09-2015, 05:49 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kellach Woods - 07-09-2015, 06:15 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kage - 07-09-2015, 07:23 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Nero - 07-09-2015, 08:00 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Ignacius - 07-09-2015, 08:52 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kage - 07-09-2015, 09:08 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Gegenji - 07-09-2015, 10:40 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Magellan - 07-09-2015, 10:49 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Cato - 07-09-2015, 10:53 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Sin - 07-09-2015, 10:56 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by TheLastCandle - 07-09-2015, 07:26 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Magellan - 07-09-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Manari - 07-09-2015, 11:08 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-09-2015, 11:30 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Gegenji - 07-09-2015, 11:16 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by cuideag - 07-09-2015, 11:36 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by OttoVann - 07-09-2015, 12:06 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Cato - 07-12-2015, 09:56 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Sarnai Kha - 07-09-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by ProvaDiServo - 07-10-2015, 09:06 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Gegenji - 07-10-2015, 09:15 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Melodia - 07-10-2015, 09:22 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kellach Woods - 07-10-2015, 04:58 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by KitKat - 07-11-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kage - 07-10-2015, 05:21 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kellach Woods - 07-10-2015, 05:29 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kage - 07-10-2015, 05:46 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Arelian - 07-10-2015, 05:46 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kellach Woods - 07-11-2015, 01:17 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Kellach Woods - 07-12-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by ArmachiA - 07-12-2015, 05:30 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Sin - 07-12-2015, 05:52 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Magellan - 07-14-2015, 04:48 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by ArmachiA - 07-12-2015, 06:51 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Caspar - 07-14-2015, 04:33 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by -no longer matters- - 07-14-2015, 05:10 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Aduu Avagnar - 07-14-2015, 09:48 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by -no longer matters- - 07-14-2015, 09:52 PM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Cato - 07-15-2015, 08:51 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Magellan - 07-15-2015, 09:46 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Aaron - 07-15-2015, 09:20 AM
RE: Mixed Feelings - HW, Lv 60, and Stuff - by Lilia Lia - 07-15-2015, 01:00 PM

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