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Warren Castille · **12-03-2014, 08:50 PM**

(12-03-2014, 07:26 PM)Melkire Wrote: Collision from Gilgamesh apparently used Tank LB on Turn 13's TeraflareÂ and nabbed a World Second. It has its uses.

Quote:Aside from using it to help nudge progression on specific phases

I actually included that bit specifically because I knew folks were using it in Final Coil. Prior to this patch, there hasn't been a "need" for tank LB since Ultima, an i80 fight. Lower, given the gear rewards.

Edit: This sounds snappier and jerkier than intended by a mile, but can't think of how else to explain it. I come in peace!

Kage · **12-04-2014, 01:48 PM**

So according to a reply Yoshi-P made in the JP section of the official forums...

The nerfs for Ninja...

Aeolian Edge: 50TP -> 60 TP

Shadow Fang: 60 TP -> 70 TP

Kiss of the Wasp: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Kiss of the Viper: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Melkire · **12-04-2014, 01:55 PM**

Oh, understood, Warren. I'm just saying, it sounds a little odd to go "well, tank LB isn't useful... except in all these cases where it is!" I was all "...wat."

(12-04-2014, 01:48 PM)Kage Wrote: So according to a reply Yoshi-P made in the JP section of the official forums...

The nerfs for Ninja...

Aeolian Edge: 50TP -> 60 TP

Shadow Fang: 60 TP -> 70 TP

Kiss of the Wasp: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Kiss of the Viper: increase damage -> increase physical damage

One day I will understand why Shadow Fang doesn't cost the 80 TP that is standard for most DoW DoTs, especially seeing as how it gets a combo potency of 200. One day....

EDIT: Figures that my 1000th post would be about ninjas instead of monks or warriors. *facedesks*

Kage · **12-04-2014, 01:59 PM**

because Ninjas be ninjas.

TWO DAYS AFTER MY BIRTHDAY AHHHHHHHH

I hopefully will be working on T10 then and not still trying to get the rest of my static through T9. @)@

Warren Castille · **12-04-2014, 02:01 PM**

(12-04-2014, 01:55 PM)Melkire Wrote: Oh, understood, Warren. I'm just saying, it sounds a little odd to go "well, tank LB isn't useful... except in all these cases where it is!" I was all "...wat."

Yeah, that explanation makes sense. I was just thinking of the comparison where Healer LB is technically useful in any fight anywhere if people are wiping (which can be any single fight in the game, in any dungeon, on any boss) and DPS limits are useful in any fight where the goal is to deplete the enemy's HP (aka every single fight in the game, in every dungeon, on every boss).

Tank LB's got maybe half a dozen useful applications in a couple hundred instances.

RARGH TANK SE GIVE MY CLASS MORE STUFF

Ninja TP costs baffle me.

Kage · **12-04-2014, 02:07 PM**

Personally, the tank lb would be -much- more useful if the % was higher for all levels.

Sometimes that o-shit moment isn't enough when you hit it. :/ (Remember when people hit Tank LB during Garuda? lol)

Aldotsk · **12-04-2014, 03:19 PM**

Why is there never an answer about more level 1 vanity glamour gears? I've asked this question like every Q&A thread and had plenty of likes by players, but it is never answered at all. I wish Yoshi-P would at least give more hint for us that there would be more in the future. Like be dyeable and only be used for outfits.Â

Sigh... :C

Gegenji · **12-04-2014, 03:25 PM**

I'm all for more low-level glamour gear. I needs ta dress up my duders. Sad

Aldotsk · **12-04-2014, 03:31 PM**

Awaiting for Chachan to wear this.

Gegenji · **12-04-2014, 03:36 PM**

(12-04-2014, 03:31 PM)Aldotsk Wrote:

Awaiting for Chachan to wear this.

He'd do it, too. I already have him wearing the bunny helmet for his combat gear.

Kellach Woods · **12-04-2014, 03:37 PM**

(12-04-2014, 01:48 PM)Kage Wrote: Kiss of the Wasp: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Kiss of the Viper: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Makes a lot more sense now - I was wondering how putting poison on your blades helped you do more damage with your ninjutsu mudras.

Aldotsk · **12-04-2014, 03:38 PM**

(12-04-2014, 03:37 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:
(12-04-2014, 01:48 PM)Kage Wrote: Kiss of the Wasp: increase damage -> increase physical damage

Kiss of the Viper: increase damage -> increase physical damage
Makes a lot more sense now - I was wondering how putting poison on your blades helped you do more damage with your ninjutsu mudras.

Still doesn't really bother me about TP cost increase and the buff changes. xD

Kage · **12-04-2014, 03:39 PM**

The only thing the ninja thing changes is that it lowers the DPS potential of the top tier ninjas.

Aldotsk · **12-04-2014, 03:43 PM**

(12-04-2014, 03:25 PM)Gegenji Wrote: I'm all for more low-level glamour gear. I needs ta dress up my duders.

Also Chachan, I agree with you 100%.

Honestly, I love Fistfighters and Hussar's Jackcoat set but only different dyes I've seen are Skywatchers.

And most of these gears dont drop a lot except bunch of cokes and pot-ashes. ;-; (and people barely do these dungeons to farm the gears)

Kellach Woods · **12-06-2014, 10:20 AM**

(12-04-2014, 03:43 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: And most of these gears dont drop a lot except bunch of cokes and pot-ashes. ;-; (and people barely do these dungeons to farm the gears)

I'll take all your cokes and potashes and farm them with you. Whatever you don't want is likely to be armorer/blacksmith/goldsmiths and those are my desynths because I like hating myself apparently. ^^

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