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Ashe · **08-30-2015, 04:17 PM**

(08-30-2015, 04:00 PM)Korin Wrote: It's always unfortunate when people give up on a character. I don't know how much RP you'd had with the Xaela player, but I'm not sure how to describe it...It's kinda like there's a void in your RP? Especially if the character just vanishes without any real explanation - Not that I'm saying that happened, but that's just my opinion on it.

As a side note, if timezones don't conflict too badly, you're welcome to give me a poke for RP. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?

As for the lore wall...It sounds like it should relate more to how your character is, rather than...How she, as a Xaela, would react? I'm sorry, I don't really get what you mean - She was kicked out of her tribe, wasn't she? (correct me if i'm wrong, thread review won't let me check back far enough!) So that could be more than enough of a reason for her to shift away from the "Warring tribe, let's enslave everyone!" expectation. I suppose I'm not much help there, though. Sorry I can't be much more assistance in breaking down that lore wall...It's an issue I never really encountered.

I can't comment on the "Hey, let's be friends!" sort - I haven't encountered any yet - but personally I've always RPed Raeth as being wary of everyone and anyone, be they fellow Xaela or not. Unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of RPing directly with other Xaela clans, yet.

I'll try to get in contact with you in game.

But yeah...It's more like the man who was training her to fight and learn the art of espionage betrayed the tribe to not only the Kharlu but also was found selling information about the tribes in the region to the Garleans and he intentionally framed her as part of that endeavor. It was also no secret to anyone who knew her that she was in love with him so no one really believed her when she said she had no part in it. He escaped to Eorzea to head North to Ala Mhigo where he was supposed to seek refuge with the Empire and she figured if she brought back his head she would be accepted back into the tribe. Of course, Garleans being Garleans, he was killed at the Castrum in Eastern La Noscea where he was to head North from and she found out and kinda lost it. Her company mates (which she is only apart of because she tried to steal from them and owed them a debt) told her to try to make a new life in Eorzea...
And that is kinda what's going on.

And even after all that happened (RP wise...like if anyone was near Eastern La Noscea and saw RP and killing Garleans >>) The RP I have on her and her personality and everything about her is just so...I don't like it. It's really difficult to explain but since she's from the warring tribe I always made her more...indifferent and always calm to force herself to not act like how she would otherwise because she did that when she first got there and ended up getting robbed.Â

I donno. I feel like I dug a hole for her that I can never get out of. This is worse than the hole Ashe was in...that he got out of.

Korin · **08-30-2015, 04:42 PM**

(08-30-2015, 04:17 PM)Ashe Wrote: I'll try to get in contact with you in game.

But yeah...It's more like the man who was training her to fight and learn the art of espionage betrayed the tribe to not only the Kharlu but also was found selling information about the tribes in the region to the Garleans and he intentionally framed her as part of that endeavor. It was also no secret to anyone who knew her that she was in love with him so no one really believed her when she said she had no part in it. He escaped to Eorzea to head North to Ala Mhigo where he was supposed to seek refuge with the Empire and she figured if she brought back his head she would be accepted back into the tribe. Of course, Garleans being Garleans, he was killed at the Castrum in Eastern La Noscea where he was to head North from and she found out and kinda lost it. Her company mates (which she is only apart of because she tried to steal from them and owed them a debt) told her to try to make a new life in Eorzea...
And that is kinda what's going on.

And even after all that happened (RP wise...like if anyone was near Eastern La Noscea and saw RP and killing Garleans >> The RP I have on her and her personality and everything about her is just so...I don't like it. It's really difficult to explain but since she's from the warring tribe I always made her more...indifferent and always calm to force herself to not act like how she would otherwise because she did that when she first got there and ended up getting robbed.Â

I donno. I feel like I dug a hole for her that I can never get out of. This is worse than the hole Ashe was in...that he got out of.

Sounds good!

It does sound like a hard situation to pull yourself out of - I struggled with a similar issue on Korin, but I managed to haul him out of that hole, as well. It took a lot of effort, and on occasion I did feel like I was wasting everyone's time when I DID RP him, since the time I had to RP was quite limited.

If you can't think of a way to pull her out of that hole, perhaps it's worth considering adjusting the character somewhat? Maybe even retcon something that made you dislike the character, if you're not opposed to it? If you can pinpoint just where you feel like her RP started to get to that "I'm not really enjoying this character" point, maybe that's a good place to start fixing things.

If not, maybe reworking the entire character concept into one you think you'll enjoy is a good idea - I don't really like to suggest that, though, since you've clearly put a fair bit of time into the character already.

Ashe · **08-30-2015, 04:45 PM**

Yeah, I feel like I was unclear about just how much work I had put into her already. She's level 60...got through 2.x and HW on her in about 2.5 weeks and it would've been faster if I didn't end up in the hospital in the middle of it. I've RPd on her a bit. I have ideas with how to fix her personality a bit after talking about it...but I would like to RP with her outside of my FC...which is asking a lot since 1) I am shy about that and 2) I've tried to make those connection making posts here and they have been ignored.
Sooooo yeah haha.

V'aleera · **08-30-2015, 05:50 PM**

One part of this discussion I'd like to touch on is how to make a warlike/strength-focused character still be sociable enough to be fun to RP. If you look back into certain warrior cultures (and others) in history, particular romanticized depictions, one recurring notion that you'll find is the idea that courtesy and generosity can be used just as well as violence to demonstrate and prove strength. This concept is at play a lot with my own Xaela from a warring tribe. In her view, helping someone else is simply another way to demonstrate her own power and superior might/wisdom. It also leaves the aided person in her debt, which further solidifies her position of strength. Just food for thought!

And while she's still got a ways to go with levels and glamours I'm always happy to bring her out for RP. I believe we see eachother a bit in the Ishgard LS, so don't be a stranger!

Korin · **08-30-2015, 06:17 PM**

(08-30-2015, 04:45 PM)Ashe Wrote: Yeah, I feel like I was unclear about just how much work I had put into her already. She's level 60...got through 2.x and HW on her in about 2.5 weeks and it would've been faster if I didn't end up in the hospital in the middle of it. I've RPd on her a bit. I have ideas with how to fix her personality a bit after talking about it...but I would like to RP with her outside of my FC...which is asking a lot since 1) I am shy about that and 2) I've tried to make those connection making posts here and they have been ignored.
Sooooo yeah haha.

I really do see where you're coming from with this - I put a lot of preparation into Raeth pre-heavensward, and he overtook Korin as my main a little while before HW was actually released. I'd hate for him to get stuck in the same rut Korin did - And I really hope that won't happen again.
It's never a nice thing to put in so much time and effort to a character you end up disliking, and in some cases...It's hard to settle once you get into the habit of fantasia/namechange to try something new.

Finding RP outside of FCs is a lot of effort in itself, it seems - I suppose people are settled in their groups, and those looking for random RP only really RP in the larger cities? I usually end up wandering with people after we've established RP, but we've never been approached by people out in the field!

I've only really started actively posting here just recently, so I might've missed the connection posts Sad

Timezones are usually an issue in my case since I'm in the UK, and not much of a night owl. It's quite the dilemma!

I'm curious to see what this personality fix might be, though. Hopefully it'll work out for the best?

TheFanciestBard · **09-01-2015, 04:58 AM**

Honestly Raen seemed harder to rp or make interesting. Every Xaela gets a free "cool character quirk" in their tribe. Making one that keeps that in mind and uses that flavor throughout their rp is very interesting.. The problem comes if you pick tribes that are boring or "normal" which leaves them just being some dark scaled dragonperson with potentially limited knowledge of normal civilisation. I had a blast rping my culture shocked songbird and a lot of people liked her. She was different and interesting cause I picked a challenging tribe. If you want to make your xaela interesting build them from the tribe up imo. There's a lot of really cool and outlandish things to pick from!

Flashhelix · **09-01-2015, 05:06 AM**

I alted for the first time in making a Buduga. He's mostly a ridiculous character that I only pull out for Grindstones since his personality makes him unsuited for most other kinds of RP. I considered going with another au ra for my next alt, but eventually went with a midlander. The novelty had worn off.

That being said, a pair of friends both rerolled their mains as raen and are both loving it, along with being great characters in general, so I know it can be done.

Caspar · **09-01-2015, 05:21 AM**

I'm not having difficulty rping as an Au ra. 'Cause I don't got one and ain't makin' one. :P

But more seriously, maybe the problem is you do not have a narrative theme you're trying to approach?

I know a lot of people tend to take a more reflexive view of rp. They see it as acting whereas I see it as writing. Generally, if I don't have a basic framework in place as to what kind of story I want my character to tell or help tell, I cannot get interested in playing them. Perhaps if you thought carefully about the narrative concepts your favorite characters explored, and think about what you wish you could have done with them, you'll get a renewed concept of where you wish for your Au ra character to go. Do you want her to have a specific challenge she's working to overcome? Or maybe you want to explore the culture shock angle, or challenging her belief system? My character is pretty violent, so I felt that doing these things would help fuel the character concept; I don't know if it would work for yours, but it's worth a shot.

Miko Shiroi · **09-01-2015, 10:33 AM**

I have a female Xaela character whom I RP as a Dravanian sympathizer. So, I suppose my approach is a bit different in regards to that fact alone. However, as others have said, I typically refer to my Xaela's tribe (which is the Malaguld tribe) as a very tightly-knit and nomadic deal. Whenever my Au Ra introduces herself to someone, it's always "Ghoa, of the Malaguld Tribe" or "Blood-Member (since the Malaguld tribe also accepts Raens) of the Malaguld Tribe." Tribal traditions are very important to her, but are also mixed in with the morals and traditions she obtained while living amongst dragon-kind.

So, that's just my approach to it all. As others have said, because of the lack of lore, a lot of it is up to personal interpretation. In some ways, I feel like it's a bit sad that we don't have more lore for the Au Ra; in other ways, I appreciate the fact that there is so much that can be improvised and fabricated.

Khunbish Avagnar · **09-01-2015, 11:15 AM**

The main issues I've had with RPing my Xaela have been mostly personal Awkwardness, but I came up with a theme and a backstory, how and why he went from Othard to Eorzea, what his goals are and then came up with various other problems.

Ashe · **09-01-2015, 02:19 PM**

Yeah! Â The backstory and inner workings aren't the problem. But how to have them interact with people is like...what do I do...Â
I always RP'd based on NPC examples. Like...NPCs act differently depending on the region they're from. You kind get an idea for how your character would probably act if they were from there. But for Othard we got like....no examples of that. Domans we have Yugiri and the ninjas (who are kinda derpy in their own right)...but Othard and Xaela....you got 1 from Alexander and it's like....okay >>

YoshiP, wherever you are, please add Othard as a traversable region in 4.0 thank you /cries

Oli! · **09-01-2015, 02:21 PM**

(09-01-2015, 02:19 PM)Ashe Wrote: Yeah! Â The backstory and inner workings aren't the problem. But how to have them interact with people is like...what do I do...Â
I always RP'd based on NPC examples. Like...NPCs act differently depending on the region they're from. You kind get an idea for how your character would probably act if they were from there. But for Othard we got like....no examples of that. Domans we have Yugiri and the ninjas (who are kinda derpy in their own right)...but Othard and Xaela....you got 1 from Alexander and it's like....okay >>

YoshiP, wherever you are, please add Othard as a traversable region in 4.0 thank you /cries

Personalities are malleable based on experience. People from certain places act in certain ways because that's the most common experience that that place provides.

However, anything that can happen within a range of possibility also has the ability to affect a character accordingly.

Think about what sort of character you want, first and foremost. Then think, "okay, now that I have them, and I know that they're from <X> place, how can reasonable happenings in <X> place mold them into the <Y> person that I have created?"

Common experiences may create threads that tie people together, but they don't carbon-copy them.

Ashe · **09-01-2015, 02:44 PM**

Yes, but tribe like people aren't going to wake up one morning, go to Eorzea and be super thrifty and materialistic. That's impossible.

Oli! · **09-01-2015, 03:07 PM**

(09-01-2015, 02:44 PM)Ashe Wrote: Yes, but tribe like people aren't going to wake up one morning, go to Eorzea and be super thrifty and materialistic. That's impossible.

This sounds like a beginning; tell me more about this angle for your character.

We're gonna workshop the hell outta this.

Ashe · **09-01-2015, 03:39 PM**

Dude, I've been RPing her since maybe a week after the official release day HW (as opposed to EA when I was focused on my main). I've already posted in this thread a lot about her actually and she has a wiki that I need to finish--didn't finish it because my computer broke.Â

Read above. Go back a page.Â

My character is not like what I said in that quote. I don't RP in the cities because of my own preferences for how I RP but I lurk sometimes for fun and I see people RPing their Xaela and Raen like that. That is what I am commenting on. My main point was asking others how they are coping because I know from talking in the LSs I am in that others were having trouble with the Au Ra. Even one of my FC mates was commenting on her difficulties for RPing her Au Ra--she's a great RPer. Her Elezen is one of the most fun characters I've encountered.

So yeah. While I am having difficulties, the main point of this thread was to ask how others are coping with with the difficulties they have faced.

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