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Edgar · **01-11-2014, 10:02 PM**

Quote:I also try to take into account these differences when roleplaying. A tail is a counterbalance and as such, miqo'te should be far more agile and balanced than their tailless neighbors in Eorzea. Tripping over ones' own feet should be a rarity as a miqo'te.

This is why I think Miqo'te make good Lancers/Dragoons.

And as demonstrated twice by two new Miqo'te NPCs, they seem to make incredible Archers.

Kendha'to · **01-11-2014, 10:20 PM**

(01-11-2014, 10:02 PM)Edgar Wrote:
Quote:I also try to take into account these differences when roleplaying. A tail is a counterbalance and as such, miqo'te should be far more agile and balanced than their tailless neighbors in Eorzea. Tripping over ones' own feet should be a rarity as a miqo'te.

This is why I think Miqo'te make good Lancers/Dragoons.

And as demonstrated twice by two new Miqo'te NPCs, they seem to make incredible Archers.

*buffs nails on his jerkin* Well, I don't mean to brag, but..

Edit: Just to add something to the discussion, there's a short blurb on the origins of Eorzean archery on the official website.

"With a bow in hand and a quiver on his back, the archer strikes at the enemy from afar. In Eorzea, two schools of archery have risen to prominence: that of the longbow sentries of the Elezen military, and that of the shortbow hunters among the Miqo'te."

Kendha'to · **01-11-2014, 11:50 PM**

(01-11-2014, 08:41 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: Miqo'te are cats? Huh. I always thought they were miqo'te.

The tail and ears are used in emotes to convey expressions and emotions, so I do the same with Aeriyn. Outside of that she acts like any other sentient being. She does not purr, she does not hiss (except perhaps the same way a person might hiss when angry), but if she becomes nervous the fur on her tail will fluff out, the movements of her tail can signify her mood, and her ears will move based on emotion or when tracking sounds.

I also try to take into account these differences when roleplaying. A tail is a counterbalance and as such, miqo'te should be far more agile and balanced than their tailless neighbors in Eorzea. Tripping over ones' own feet should be a rarity as a miqo'te. I also tend to write roleplay where scent of smell and hearing take special mental precedence over vision. My character can and does identify people based on smell, and will actively avoid crowded, noisy places because her hearing is sensitive and it would give her listening fatigue and a headache. Additionally, Keepers of the Moon have good low-light vision and are nocturnal, thus most mentally and physically sharp at night.

These are all things, physiological differences that I take into account when roleplaying my character. Miqo'te are not cats. They are miqo'te. They have vaguely pseudo-feline features, but they are not nonsentient felines, nor are they anime catgirls.

I'm sorry, but I feel compelled to address that first sentence. Respectfully, the OP NEVER said that Miqo'te are cats. The intent was to foster discussion among fellow players of the race - because, let's not try to deny it, the design intent was clear; Miqo'te have a few feline features. Cat-like ears, cat-like tails, pronounced canines (in the case of Keepers) - it's more than enough material for such a discussion to take place. I understand and appreciate concerns that there are players who don't respect the lore behind the race, but Kiht isn't one of them and is far - FAR - from an anime catgirl.

T'shina · **01-12-2014, 12:01 AM**

As for my Miqo'te she has a fairly normal speech pattern but she does growl and isn't afraid to snarl at you if she's really pissed off. She tries not to purr but there are times when she is caught off guard. However, I will play purring off in both her being pleased and if she is in pain. (Yes, cats do do this.) Miqo'te are known to have a different way of vocalizing because they have hisses and spitting in their speech pattern and so she knows there is a hiss to her name but she is fine with how others pronounce it.

Her ears and tail are very expressive and I usually watch my own cats and their own expressions to figure out what it is that I should use. I am mostly active with the ears. I figure fingernails are just fingernails but perhaps a little stronger.

As for catnip... my FC made a connection of mint to catnip and so she does react to it when it is nearby despite trying her best to act like it isn't doing anything. I can't remember what connection we made with mint and catnip but I think that it is in the same family?

Naunet · **01-12-2014, 12:07 AM**

(01-11-2014, 11:50 PM)Kendha Wrote: Cat-like ears, cat-like tails, pronounced canines (in the case of Keepers)

I just wanna say that the first one is pretty arguable, while the third is not exclusive to cats. The ears look more like fennec foxes than cats to me. Cat ears are generally triangular (though sometimes are more rounded) and are set forward facing, while miqo'te ears are very elongated and are both angled and set more sideways.

The tails, though, are certainly cat-like, though not exclusive in form to cats.

Kendha'to · **01-12-2014, 12:09 AM**

(01-12-2014, 12:07 AM)Naunet Wrote:
(01-11-2014, 11:50 PM)Kendha Wrote: Cat-like ears, cat-like tails, pronounced canines (in the case of Keepers)

I just wanna say that the first one is pretty arguable, while the third is not exclusive to cats. The ears look more like fennec foxes than cats to me. Cat ears are generally triangular (though sometimes are more rounded) and are set forward facing, while miqo'te ears are very elongated and are both angled and set more sideways.

The tails, though, are certainly cat-like, though not exclusive in form to cats.

I don't intend to argue semantics. I rather purposely made Ken more wolf-like in appearance, myself. What I took issue with was the unwarranted snark.

Naunet · **01-12-2014, 12:13 AM**

I wasn't really arguing per se, just bringing up an interpretation of features that doesn't necessarily lead them towards being "cat"-like (though at least one of their emotes certainly implies it... *shudder*). ^^; I do agree your character has a very wolfish look to him! I like it.

ArmachiA · **01-12-2014, 05:20 AM**

I don't play one, but my fiance and a friend of mine both do and both of them play them feline-like but very different.

My Fiance plays his Miqote more like a Lion than a housecat. He plays him up as more wild, feral, and sometimes I've even seen him roar when angry. His ears don't perk and his tail doesn't wag like a housecat's does, and he usually doesn't convey much emotion with them - though he emote that they swivel toward the person he's listening to or turn on his head when he's listening to the whole room. Also, of course, his ears will go back when angry. Ellion also has a more regal and commanding presence like a lion and he is extremely ruthless in his actions.

My Friend on the other hand, total housecat. His ears and tail are full of expression, he's endlessly curious, and he plays with a kind of cat-like aloofness and charm. He doesn't meow or play up the feline thing overtly, its subtle, but it's there and I think he does a very good job with it.

It's really funny watching the two have completely different takes on the nature of the feline part of the Miqote. They both work really well, too.

Aysun · **01-12-2014, 11:07 AM**

(01-11-2014, 11:13 AM)allgivenover Wrote:
(01-11-2014, 05:00 AM)Tlamila Wrote: I don't see why they should have a better smell then humans though, since the nose/face conformation is exactly the same. I guess Seekers also have nightvision like cats, seen how their eyes are?

Probably due to how cats have much more powerful noses than humans - not nearly as powerful as dogs though. It was stated a few times in 1.0 and again in ARR, though I neglected to take screenshots.

I'm not sure about night-vision for Seekers, maybe better than humans but not as good as Keepers. It's possible that Seekers have more acute vision as long as there's adequate light due to the vertical slit pupil shape that they share with real life cats, a trait that Keepers don't share. Keeper eyes are just super wide all the time.

OT: My own interpretation on the subject of their vision is a bit different. Seekers are diurnal and have slit pupils like cats we see IRL. But cats have night vision due to an extra reflective membrane in their eyes that allows the light to pass through the retna essentially twice. IRL cats use this and their ability to have monster-pupils (like Keepers) to see in the dark. To me, it would not make much sense that a diurnal race would have the evolutionary trait that nocturnals have. I assume that Seeker pupils don't dialate much, limiting their night vision, Â whereas Keepers, who's eyes are always dialated see very well if not better in the dark than in the light. Just my opinion though!

allgivenover · **01-12-2014, 01:38 PM**

I do sometimes RP Rakka'li as seeing better in dusk than in daylight. He also wears hats when in the La Noscean or Thanalan sun, because I feel like it would be outright uncomfortable to have that much dilation going on during the day.

Kendha'to · **01-12-2014, 02:00 PM**

(01-12-2014, 01:38 PM)allgivenover Wrote: I do sometimes RP Rakka'li as seeing better in dusk than in daylight. He also wears hats when in the La Noscean or Thanalan sun, because I feel like it would be outright uncomfortable to have that much dilation going on during the day.

I do this, too. On a Seeker friend's advice, Ken almost always wears a turban when he's in Thanalan during the day. Too damned bright, too damned hot, and too damned dusty. Tongue

Lost River · **01-12-2014, 03:41 PM**

For me, my Miqo'te isn't generally cat-like other than her tail and ears reaction; more so than that, she is more of a book worm type dorky girl. An Arcanist's/Scholar's job is never done!Â

She has meowed once. More like mrowrl but it was out of a complete excitement moment like "WTF?!" type moment.

Clover · **01-12-2014, 03:41 PM**

I don't think I have given any cat-like trait to my Miqo'te, other than the obvious movement of her ears and tail.

Things like purring and meowing are cute, though, so I wouldn't be against any otherÂ Miqo'te doing that. They're cat-like, after all, and it's up to everyone to decide just how much they do resemble real cats.

Lost River · **01-12-2014, 03:44 PM**

(01-12-2014, 03:41 PM)Clover Wrote: I don't think I have given any cat-like trait to my Miqo'te, other than the obvious movement of her ears and tail.

Things like purring and meowing are cute, though, so I wouldn't be against any otherÂ Miqo'te doing that. They're cat-like, after all, and it's up to everyone to decide just how much they do resemble real cats.

Just glad my Miqo'te doesn't resemble my cat, if she did, she'd be destroying furniture, knocking over pots/vases (purposely), and eating people's in home topiary.

ArmachiA · **01-12-2014, 04:46 PM**

(01-12-2014, 11:07 AM)Aysun Wrote:
(01-11-2014, 11:13 AM)allgivenover Wrote:
(01-11-2014, 05:00 AM)Tlamila Wrote: I don't see why they should have a better smell then humans though, since the nose/face conformation is exactly the same. I guess Seekers also have nightvision like cats, seen how their eyes are?

Probably due to how cats have much more powerful noses than humans - not nearly as powerful as dogs though. It was stated a few times in 1.0 and again in ARR, though I neglected to take screenshots.

I'm not sure about night-vision for Seekers, maybe better than humans but not as good as Keepers. It's possible that Seekers have more acute vision as long as there's adequate light due to the vertical slit pupil shape that they share with real life cats, a trait that Keepers don't share. Keeper eyes are just super wide all the time.
OT: My own interpretation on the subject of their vision is a bit different. Seekers are diurnal and have slit pupils like cats we see IRL. But cats have night vision due to an extra reflective membrane in their eyes that allows the light to pass through the retna essentially twice. IRL cats use this and their ability to have monster-pupils (like Keepers) to see in the dark. To me, it would not make much sense that a diurnal race would have the evolutionary trait that nocturnals have. I assume that Seeker pupils don't dialate much, limiting their night vision, Â whereas Keepers, who's eyes are always dialated see very well if not better in the dark than in the light. Just my opinion though!

My fiance decided to play with up too, since he's a Keeper. He says Ellion's eyes are sensitive to bright light since his pupils are always dilated and when in the sun or a brightly lit room he has Ellion wear sunglasses.

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