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Zhavi · **07-14-2014, 01:59 PM**

(07-14-2014, 01:56 PM)Melkire Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:53 PM)Aya Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:49 PM)ExKage Wrote: This is exactly the type of thing I'm hoping to see right now in the aftermath in RP :3
If a handful were killed, maybe...

With so many supposedly dead, it is not justice that they have to worry about, but armed mobs, vengeful families, and perhaps worse than either, vengeful powerful people.Â It will be impossible for any of them to believably return to their lives in Ul'dah.Â

These guys didn't just rough up a barmaid.

This assumes that the authorities even release the identities of the principles and accessories to the public.

Ditto this -- don't forget, this isn't a world with photographs and a mob of press looking to spread those photographs all over the front page/website so everyone and their mother gets an eyeful of the evildoer. Hell, I play it so that even if Zhi knows a name and a rough description, she still won't know for 100% sure if the guy she just saw is the guy she's looking for. Drawn pictures can work some of the time, but it's still not 100%, and unless people are having the accomplices sit down for a portrait, chances are it'll have enough vagaries to allow them to change a few things about themselves and escape notice.

Warren Castille · **07-14-2014, 02:01 PM**

(07-14-2014, 01:58 PM)Coatleque Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:52 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: That Guy

Humor break!

Waaay too serious up in here. I think we can all agree that That Guy probably deserved it. He was a lousy tipper and a lech.

I need a war room. There's a lot to discuss.

Zhavi · **07-14-2014, 02:01 PM**

(07-14-2014, 01:59 PM)Whittledown Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:56 PM)Melkire Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:53 PM)Aya Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 01:49 PM)ExKage Wrote: This is exactly the type of thing I'm hoping to see right now in the aftermath in RP :3
If a handful were killed, maybe...

With so many supposedly dead, it is not justice that they have to worry about, but armed mobs, vengeful families, and perhaps worse than either, vengeful powerful people.Â It will be impossible for any of them to believably return to their lives in Ul'dah.Â

These guys didn't just rough up a barmaid.

This assumes that the authorities even release the identities of the principles and accessories to the public.

Out of curiosity, why wouldn't they? I would imagine that they would want every person in the city to know as much as possible so as to make sure that they are spotted and the authorities informed if the baddies were in the city. Names, descriptions, wanted posters, the whole bit as well as offering rewards for capture so merc's could try their hand.

If they have them in for a plea bargain (assuming the person turned themselves in or was quickly caught) it generally comes with some assurance that they won't be sold out.

C'kayah Polaali · **07-14-2014, 02:03 PM**

(07-14-2014, 01:52 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: It's my personal feelings that the majority of folks would have been hiding out out of fear of the attack and not gargling shower water, but there's always gotta be That Guy so he's probably dead by now.

Ah, I wasn't aware that the law had confiscated a barrel of poison. That does change things.

That said, I don't buy the "hiding out" argument. Ul'dah is a large place, and the only evidence of the attack that most people would be aware of would be a moderate explosion. How many people would hear that and think "attack!", instead of just "construction accident"?

I can appreciate that we're trying to pull back from "zomg, everyone is dead meat!", but it feels a little bit like we're trying to handwave in mitigations to something that was handwaved to be worse than it needed to be.

Again, I'm not pointing fingers, nor am I trying to say "Askier/Osric, you ruin everything!". It's a fun arc, I'm happy I'm part of it. I just want these aspects of the arc to be in scale with the rest of it.

Whittledown · **07-14-2014, 02:05 PM**

Just tossing this out here, but speculation is probably a bad idea at this juncture. Since this is Askier's plot perhaps we should all hang back out of this thread for a while until he posts some kind of master "THIS IS THE STUFF THAT OFFICIALLY HAPPENED" post.

Aya · **07-14-2014, 02:06 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:03 PM)C Wrote: Again, I'm not pointing fingers, nor am I trying to say "Askier/Osric, you ruin everything!". It's a fun arc, I'm happy I'm part of it. I just want these aspects of the arc to be in scale with the rest of it.

*Pouts* but this is what I am trying to say :-]

(Kidding, kidding, Askier and Osric are awesome, though I know Osric better, and miss the guy so much right now!)

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-14-2014, 02:09 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:05 PM)Whittledown Wrote: Just tossing this out here, but speculation is probably a bad idea at this juncture. Â Since this is Askier's plot perhaps we should all hang back out of this thread for a while until he posts some kind of master "THIS IS THE STUFF THAT OFFICIALLY HAPPENED" post.

I think that would be wise. I hadn't learned everyone should be aware of the poison ICly until this thread started discussing it. Franz simply did his part as a masked-identity mercenary hired for diversion. (And ran away accordingly) ...he's just another face in the crowd as far as the law enforcement would care. A mask is easy to dispose of. And most armor/clothes (if we go through the regular channels of obtaining them) are probably in the "one size fits all" category, unless noted that they were tailored.

Gaspard · **07-14-2014, 02:12 PM**

While I am not heavily involved in this play, I can relate to a handful of the adressed issues. Still, so far it seems to beat the off-the-mill barchat/socializing RP, which is fine from time to time, but becomes quite..dull.

But back on the topic at hand. I think that, the core issue with this is that the Event itself takes alot of liberties with how the 'RP World', Eorzea and Ul'dah itself will react to this event. Given we're playing in an MMO, we usually have two options. We can choose to ignore a certain slight of Lore in order to create more opportunities for ourselves, or we stick to it 100 percent. That also means leaving our hands off any Higher-up NPC / Story important Lore and locations. It also creates alot of disharmony amongst players who are perhaps not as much involved with this site as others.

For example, yesterday I've had a roleplay that was refferencing to said Event, and I had to quickly adjust my characters reaction, because I as an OOC person didn't even know Ul'dah's Wells where poisoned, nor that there where people dying from it. Still, as an Ul'dahn citizen well involved in rumours or hearsay, my character should've technically known it. I think that likewise is an issue for other players. Events in general are fine, but the moment they begin to influence and/or touch large scale locations, or Central plot Dynamics where all people are involved, things become messy.Â

Another good example would be; If my character, logically, wouldn't know about the wells, and thus, went on wining and dining as he does, he'll probably be poisoned, and dead. By logic alone. If I don't adhere to this, I'm breaking Character, thus forcing me to use OOC knowledge in order to save my character from certain death.

Still, this is not meant to be rant of sorts, just my perspective on the problematic nature of having such events affect the large scale roleplay community, such as poisoning City wells where 'every' roleplayer on FFXIV probably passes through, no matter whether they're involved in the Event or not. It creates a sort of tear in 'my rp reality/ your rp reality.' Because for some here this event will be fact, others will have to ignore it, and thus you're already playing in two different realities where a handful of people account said event to be in their lore, others don't. And that can lead to a massive amount of issues down the road, especially if said event becomes integral to future plots.

Still, I'm looking forward to how things will work out regardless.

Melkire · **07-14-2014, 02:16 PM**

We need another short break, courtesy another brief moment of levity:

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Warren Castille · **07-14-2014, 02:17 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:12 PM)Gaspard Wrote: split-continuity insight

I have the same issues. In my experience, I've just dabbled with Comic Book timelines. When you're talking to people In The Know, the events happened. When you're dealing with someone not associated, the events never existed.

It can make some ugly schisms down the road, but for my money it's the best bet. Right now everyone in this thread is reading Blood on the Sands #1, written by Osric and inked by Askier guest starring Kahn'a. But some people didn't want to read that issue, so they're still reading Hot Spring Love #600.

Ah, comic books. Is there a problem you can't fix?

Jancis · **07-14-2014, 02:19 PM**

Just skimming the posts and brain storming I was curious if any healing role play was occurring for the aftermath of the poison. To help those once the situation was realized for whatever victims there would be, and reducing the numbers that would have been lost.

Whittledown · **07-14-2014, 02:20 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:17 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 02:12 PM)Gaspard Wrote: split-continuity insight

I have the same issues. In my experience, I've just dabbled with Comic Book timelines. When you're talking to people In The Know, the events happened. When you're dealing with someone not associated, the events never existed.

It can make some ugly schisms down the road, but for my money it's the best bet. Right now everyone in this thread is reading Blood on the Sands #1, written by Osric and inked by Askier guest starring Kahn'a. But some people didn't want to read that issue, so they're still reading Hot Spring Love #600.

Ah, comic books. Is there a problem you can't fix?

They can't bring us back together Warren, no matter how many of them you tie around rocks and throw through my windows.

Whittledown · **07-14-2014, 02:21 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:19 PM)Jancis Wrote: Just skimming the posts and brain storming I was curious if any healing role play was occurring for the aftermath of the poison. To help those once the situation was realized for whatever victims there would be, and reducing the numbers that would have been lost.

My understanding was that any aether based healing would have resulted in the immediate death of the victim. It's something about how the poison was engineered.

Warren Castille · **07-14-2014, 02:21 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:20 PM)Whittledown Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 02:17 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 02:12 PM)Gaspard Wrote: split-continuity insight

I have the same issues. In my experience, I've just dabbled with Comic Book timelines. When you're talking to people In The Know, the events happened. When you're dealing with someone not associated, the events never existed.

It can make some ugly schisms down the road, but for my money it's the best bet. Right now everyone in this thread is reading Blood on the Sands #1, written by Osric and inked by Askier guest starring Kahn'a. But some people didn't want to read that issue, so they're still reading Hot Spring Love #600.

Ah, comic books. Is there a problem you can't fix?

They can't bring us back together Warren, no matter how many of them you tie around rocks and throw through my windows.

I just want you to read Forever Evil. It's good, I promise!

Kage · **07-14-2014, 02:25 PM**

(07-14-2014, 02:21 PM)Whittledown Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 02:19 PM)Jancis Wrote: Just skimming the posts and brain storming I was curious if any healing role play was occurring for the aftermath of the poison. To help those once the situation was realized for whatever victims there would be, and reducing the numbers that would have been lost.

My understanding was that any aether based healing would have resulted in the immediate death of the victim. Â It's something about how the poison was engineered.

I heard oocly that it reacts to aether and would be very very bad.

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