(03-12-2015, 05:13 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: This is why I've long believed MMOs should do away with single player storytelling all together because it causes nothing but confusion and disagreement over something that really isn't that hard to figure out.
(03-12-2015, 04:30 AM)Tiergan Wrote: Along the same vein, because of the way the White Mage quest is presented, your character is the 'lone and only chosen hero' who ever gets to be a White Mage while no one else save the Padjal get to have that special privilege. Â While some job quests might simply be one scenario out of many - in the case of the White Mage quest, you literally only got to be a White Mage because some other long dead guy's white mage stone up and specifically, personally selects you to be the first and only non-padjal white mage in ages. Â This spirit likely did not have multiple white-mage stones just hanging about in the shroud waiting for more adventurers to come around. Â Just like our characters only have one job stone - he likely only had one job stone to give out as well. Â Meanwhile, the Elementals are still very much against letting anyone non-padjal learn the art of succor.
I just really don't understand where this interpretation comes from because it makes several assumptions that seem ridiculous in the grand scheme of things:
A. The only Padjal in the entire land happen to be the five NPCs referenced in 2.0.
B. If not that, then they all think the same like a series of clones even though they all come from differing backgrounds.
C. This is the only way to do it.
D. That the reliance on the so-called will of the elementals is actually something more than exaggeration and superstition.
A lot of this obviously absurd imo, but what really settles it is the official site disagrees with it outright:
Quote:Although the art subsequently became forbidden, it is now in the midst of a revival at the hands of the Padjal, chosen of the elementals.
Just wanted to say that I do not see what Tiergan said as an interpretation of the lore, it is pretty much what the story tells you when you read it through. S.E does a lot of single-player writing because that is what sells, people play games because they want to feel special in the story - Heck, even I enjoy the way that the MSQ is written. It sucks for us roleplayers because it puts some restrictions down on what is obtainable, but you can't really go in and say that's possible just because the restriction comes out of that origin. At the same time I find it very natural for any universe to have some things that aren't obtainable for everyone, it encourages people to think in alternatives - Conjurers are pretty strong as is. I do not see the need for any player to go out and single-handedly craft a way to make it possible - even if it might be, that's the responsibility of the lore-devs.Â
As I mentioned earlier, it's a style-choice for each individual to make with what they want to go with. However, I think it's very healthy for anyone planning to play a whitemage to know that there's a sizeable chunk of the community that thinks otherwise and may end up not accepting it when their character gets told someone is a whitemage. Because of their choice in how they play by the lore, not because they want to be a meanypants. Understanding that not everyone thinks the same and accepting this is really important for any situation in RP, but especially this.
I'm managing just fine to roleplay with people that have twists in their stories that my characters could never acknowledge, because these people accepted this and simply went "We wont ever tell them, then". Â
That's my two gil on it anyways.
Edit: Also, we might see some new twists in Heavensward as I presume they're going to explain if or not the Au Ra lands have conjurers, and if they do them how - since right now all conjurers are pretty much taught in the same place. If there has been a bunch of conjurers up there whilst the rest of us were busy not noticing that area of the world, they may have different twists to their practice as opposed to the way that stillglade fane does it.
