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if Cartman can do it so can you lol he could be the Voidsent lord

Ah, so I was correct with my earlier hypothesis then: you're not actually interested in taking feedback into account at all - you simply intend to latch onto those who say 'do what you want' and ignore everything else. So either you're a troll (which I'm reluctant to imply since I prefer to give everybody the benefit of the doubt) or you're simply being deliberately dense and argumentative. This entire thread seems rather pointless at this point. If you don't want to take feedback into account...why are you actually here? Many people have pointed out how you could play a 'vampire' in a way that would fit FFXIV without being too jarring. If you want to just go off and do your own thing - which seems likely given that you admitted that you mostly intend to do this idea with your friends alone - then just go and do it. You don't need permission. You do, however, have no right to demand that everybody else accepts your idea or finds it amazing. ummmm gurl chill lol i wasnt demanding anything and yes i was looking for feedback and not ppl saying how impossible it is. if u looked a few comments above someone mentioned being bit by a void tainted bat as an origin which i said was one of the few good ideas amidst the ppl limiting themselves to lore they believe is concrete. the point was to try and get creative and explore possibilities.

ur so quick to cry troll for no reason other than that its a subject that hasnt been brought up yet. may i interest in some popcorn to go with that salt?

i feel like i need a drink. care to volunteer a neck or artery?

Time to retire to my coffin guys lol thanks for all the responses even the disbelievers were central to the secrecy of vamps lol keep denying its what we want. And to the person who made fun of my last name which is my actual IRL name i hope all your data gets erased :evil:

im still gonna be a vamp just wanted feedback on possible origin stories for how they would come about and i got some pretty good tidbits.

I never once said vampires could not exist. I never once said it was impossible. sounded like u were maybe i got u mixed up with the other nay sayers sry lol

that sounds like a comedic origin story i like it lol My character was bitten by a void tainted vampire bat in Qarn, and became Eorzea's first Vampire. simple yet effective i like it ^-^

Not overstepping boundaries, just being presumptuous imo. its presumptuous to set tight limits on a game with........ everything that violates the laws of nature and physics and an ever expanding story lol before 3.0 it was thought the war of the magi wiped out all the mages but here comes Void Ark. and from a gamer persepective au ra didnt exist till 3.0. from a gamer perspective not lore and the lore was added after 3.0 so its not entirely impossible in the long run im just brainstorming ways it could be implemented before SE officially denies it or confirms it in a later expansion There's this weird mentality some people (who are arguing in favor of something probably not fitting for the setting) have that just because there's magic in a world, or sometimes even simply if a setting is fictional, that anything goes and that "the laws of nature and physics" don't apply. That's not the case. Fiction is grounded in reality. We should assume that most things operate in XIV just as they do in the real world until/unless given evidence otherwise. SE may not tell us that Midlanders need oxygen to live, but if someone suffocates my character, she's probably gonna pass out/die, because until we're presented with evidence otherwise, it makes the most sense to assume things work as they do in real life. And yes, vampires could be implemented in the future, or they could not, or SE could add flying pigs into the game that are called "vampires." We don't know if vampires will ever be added, and we certainly don't know what they'll be like if they are. We don't know if they'll be something sensible to play (for example, we know well enough what Primals are--that doesn't mean it's a good idea to make your character a Primal). At this point, you are simply presuming, hence being presumptuous. presuming that something cant exist is also presumptuous and it goes back to my original post which is speculating how it could be implemented in the game. clearly nobody is going to rp a primal but its not far fetched to rp a vamp since u have everything else thats humanoid. instead of saying its impossible maybe try and be open minded? and lets take a look at one of these fictions grounded in reality:

She's a succubus, which is not the same thing as a vampire. They're both not real wizard ghost demon people. But one is clearly in the game, and the other is not. Hence the argument against vampires. Maybe they're all hiding in their coffins. Or turned into bats. what if they turned into bats and can't figure out how to turn back. The bats in Qarn suck your blood. QED vampires are in the game. that sounds like a comedic origin story i like it lol

Not overstepping boundaries, just being presumptuous imo. its presumptuous to set tight limits on a game with........ everything that violates the laws of nature and physics and an ever expanding story lol before 3.0 it was thought the war of the magi wiped out all the mages but here comes Void Ark. and from a gamer persepective au ra didnt exist till 3.0. from a gamer perspective not lore and the lore was added after 3.0 so its not entirely impossible in the long run im just brainstorming ways it could be implemented before SE officially denies it or confirms it in a later expansion

She's a succubus, which is not the same thing as a vampire. They're both not real wizard ghost demon people. But one is clearly in the game, and the other is not. Hence the argument against vampires. not in game yet. keyword yet. u have everything else literally in mythology but vamps is overstepping boundaries? lol hell zodiark might have his warriors of darkness drink blood and aether for all we know

its a troll thread cuz its something you havent heard of or dont agree with? #logic

she was a succubus who bathed in maiden blood as a human and when she was scarred after the calamity sold her soul to a voidsent

Humans did not do weird things to cats... Miqo'te are not half cat, half human. Miqo'te are Miqo'te. >_> how do u kno? lol do you support creationism that hydaelyn just said abra cadabra and cat ppl emerged?

i didnt think that a game with demons, magic, gods and zombies it would be impossible to have vamps in it lol

in retroscpect twilight vamps are overpowered since theyre blood sucking kryptonians with emma frost powers but i hated the books and movies so lets not get it twisted lol and thank you

:frustrated: Guys, this guys character's last name is Swan. He's just looking for vampire RP period. He's not gonna listen to any logical or cohesive facts about lore. Just leave him/her be. OP you really shouldn't ask if your idea is lore compliant and then hilariously disregard the facts given to you. It's pretty obv trolling. WTB thread lock. not trolling just trying to have a good laugh and talk to people. and my last name is actually Swann in game and real life dont judge on things u dont kno and facts? lore is more fluid than u make it out to be. can you tell me the origin of the miquo'te master race? its lore compliant to say that humans did weird things with cats so im just trying to broaden horizons.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game A plant isnt an undead evil creature though... neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said. It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant. Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing. well the word leopard comes from greek and latin roots meaning lion + panther since it was believed to be a hybrid species, which it isnt but the name stuck. so literally it means panther-lion. so yes they were called leopards based on something already existing lol

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though... That's actually a good point though. How would the term show up if there was no creature named "vampire" in the world? Is the vampire plant the only thing to have the name? If so, were vampires to show up in the lore, would they be named after the plant? I'm clearly overthinking this. I should be farming eso. the eso isnt going anywhere lol one expert roulette a day keeps the grind away till 3.1 in two months

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether. the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game A plant isnt an undead evil creature though... and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether. the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game A plant isnt an undead evil creature though... neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing. Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!! It's a little known fact that this is at least one part an accurate portrayal of a vampire. You could play him. dat count chocula tho lol im dead now. congrats u created the undead lmao

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such. how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether. the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition! We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing. Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!! soooo essentially the compulsion to do every moogle fetch quest? THE BEANS