AlionLucada

Garleans aren't evil, friend. They're just the other side. My apologies, I should have put "evil" instead, after all its just a matter of perception. I'm interested in any Garlean stuff now that I'm back. Feel free to poke me with your in-game name and a little description of your character in PMs!

Garleans aren't evil, friend. They're just the other side.

Just a small bump, I've gotten to just about everyone to post in here in some for or another, but we're always looking for more loyalists!

Still probably a good idea not to RP stuff that's supposed to be super rare/exclusive, just because of how easy it is for them to change something in the lore that suddenly makes everything you've done irrelevant. Just to be safe. Only reason I can see for people to -need- to RP a WHM/BLM instead of an exceptional Conjurer/Thaumaturge is because they want to be special.

You're mentioning the Job crystals that most people are okay with people RPing, though. When people aqre wary about people RPing as jobs they generally mean the ones like WHM, BLM, etc. The ones explicitly called forbidden or incredibly rare in the lore. Ones like WAR/BRD/MNK, where there are people and organizations actively training new people are fine and I never see them being pestered about it. EDIT: While I'm here, to show I'm not just against people RPing stuff like being part of important or exclusive lore organizations like the Dragoons and such, I'll mention that a new (?) Garlean FC has cropped up recently that is actually RPing as the Vth Legion with their leader being a comic book villain-y evil Legatus. As someone RPing a Garlean and trying to run a group myself, I find this insane considering we have an expansion looming that will likely heavily involve the Garleans given the setting that could easily make everything they do non-canon. Plus, they're playing them as mustache twirlingly evil villains. It grinds my gears, though I imagine it'd be funny to encounter them ICly ("Uh, no.. you're not the real Vth Legion.").

Slowly working at arranging IC meetings with people, things are getting good so far. If you have need of a possible Garlean antagonist for your RP plotlines feel free to drop me a PM!

I imagine it's because RPers are a small niche and they want to make the larger playerbase feel special by saying these classes/jobs are rare or forbidden or one of a kind. Which is fine.

Is there a problem if they do? I'm honestly curious what problem it will cause. People always use general language, like they're speaking for a whole group, but in reality they're just speaking their personal opinion. Will it cause an issue for you? How would you react to a player who still says they're a dragoon, or a grandmaster monk? Depending on the character I'm playing, as others have said in the thread, I'll either assume their character is lying, drunk or crazy. *Mod edit happened to aid with thread cleanup.

Pretty sure as long as people who RP MNKs don't come out and say they're grandmasters of their own sect and they're the avatar of Rahlgr they'll be fine.

I thought WHM was a forbidden art, not lost?...if so there is a difference there. Either way, I have noted many dragoons calling themselves knight dragoons or retired dragoons. I saw someone call themselves a dragoon reservist, meant to go active should war start once more. Forbidden, lost whatever. My point is that really only the Padjal are supposed to know white magic and the WOL is the ONLY non Padjal to even have a smattering of training in it. And yet...we have WHM RPers. So I mean...I don't see the alarm here. Saying "well RPers RP stuff they shouldn't all the time so why care at all??" is a pretty bad excuse.

As I've said before, you can RP whatever you want. Nobody can stop you, not even us and our "mean" terms like special snowflake. That being said, don't be surprised or upset if you encounter people who follow the lore we're given whose characters either think yours are crazy or lying when they claim to be something like a Dragoon or anything else on shaky canonical ground. Just as much as it's your right to RP what you want it's our right to question it IC and OOCly, as long as it's kept civil.

There is no solution, and it doesn't matter how long you've been RPing. There will always be people who are lazy when it comes to their characters are are willing step outside lore boundaries to be unique.

Prior to the lore book we knew only that that the order was exclusive to those who had killed a dragon and passed training. No reference, specific or abstract, exists in reference to its size. Seems to me that speaks to it's exclusivity and secrecy if that's all we knew about it, plus the class quests make it pretty clear that becoming a Dragoon is a pretty big deal. These are all red flags.

I go out of my way to be as vague as possible and use only lore we -do- have right -now- in my RP. My character isn't a super spy from Garlemald who rubs elbows with the likes of Regula and Gaius, and he has zero connection to the greater goings on beyond the borders of Eorzea. He's a soldier, one of hundreds we see every time our quests take us to one of the Castrums or other holdouts of remnants of the XIVth, VIIth and VIth legions. If, somehow, this still ends up breaking the lore they add with Stormblood I'll retcon what I have to. I won't try to find some loophole around it or try to poke holes in the credibility of the lore leads over at S-E because I can't handle it. EDIT: I want to reiterate that people are free to RP what they want, but don't be surprised if you run into people who -do- follow the lore to the letter and their characters don't just ooh and ahh when you tell them you're drinking buds with Estinien and you just got back from killing 20 dragons with your Dragoon pals.

Welcome to a train of thought that leads to never roleplaying anything interesting, ever, because it's "too risky" or makes you a "special snowflake" (didn't we get over the term "special snowflake" and the concepts behind it in, like, 2013?). By this logic, I wouldn't be roleplaying an Au Ra. I'd reiterate what everyone else said to you on the previous page. There's a difference between that and RPing something that flies in the face of what we've been told by the lore team, whether or not you think they're worth listening to or not. You can RP an Au Ra because it's been made clear they're refugees fleeing to Eorzea. You shouldn't RP a Dragoon because we now know (and have always known) they're an exclusive and very small order of elite warriors. You can RP as a Garlean or Doman because we see hundreds upon hudnreds of Garlean grunts still operating in and around Eorzea and we saw the quests that told us Doman refugees were fleeing to Eorzea. You shouldn't RP a Galrean Legatus or a Doman Princess because these are both high offices and we know so little about that aspect of the lore you're more likely to get something wrong you're going to have to retcon than not. Nobody is saying you should only RP boring people doing boring things, but you can basically do what you've already been doing already.. just don't apply these titles to yourself or say your character is part of some special organization.