Crow

My question is on the beta boards there has been pushback from the non rpers on Behemoth right on their own rp threads. Why go to a server where the many of the community has expressed right in your own forum threads that they don't want you there? We have gotten no such pushback on Gilgamesh and I know I drew a watching audience a few times this past weekend rping there. I was not aware of any kind of push back from the Behemoth server over RPer's. Could you provide some sort of link/thread?

Caw. So it seems that Behemoth is growing quite popular on the Beta forums.. it would suck if the Behemoth vote began to outweigh the Gilgamesh vote. Would probably cause quite the stirrup. Anyways, I'm a realist here so it's pretty clear Gilgamesh is going to win, and that's fine, better we all end up at the same place. My question to everyone who voted for it though; why would you pick a server where people from Reddit are going to be migrating to? If any of you have ever RP'd before I'm sure you've had your run-ins with trolls who make fun of the RP community in general, and Reddit is known for their troll-like behavior on several occasions.

Actually from what we've seen, most of the newcomers to the RPC seem fine with rolling on Balmung, so I don't think it's really a matter of new players vs legacy players, but a matter of whether or not the people who want to roll on a new server outnumber the people who want to roll on Balmung. And yes, we do want to do anything in our power to help the community grow and flourish, but attempting to force everyone to abandon their 1.0 characters would utterly destroy this community. Besides, after some time, there will no longer be any functional difference between joining a new server or a legacy server. @first bold; this is very true, and unfortunately not something we can accurately measure in time before the actual game releases.. @second bold; that argument could be used for both sides when it comes down to it! So here's the scenario I'll give you. If you were someone who RP'd and did not know of any established community except that there was a legacy RP server and a non-legacy RP server, which server do you think the new person would join? (knowing that legacy meant people from the 1.0 age) I will say this; if no official non-legacy RP server is announced the community will most definitely be split.. Why is anyone comparing FFXIV's community to Tera's community, of all communities? Tera's RP community is the worst I've ever been in, and out of the games I've RP'd in (WoW, TOR, TSW, GW2, Aion, Tera) Tera is the -only- community I couldn't get into. The only game I started with on at launch was Guild Wars 2, and I still made made a place in all of those games but.. Tera. The entire universe's Roleplaying community in any game should never be compared to Tera. Never ever. Edit: Not a personal attack on you Crow, you're the third person I've seen do it on the forums, and I don't know how many times I saw it in Shout chat on Gilgamesh in Phase 2, first round beta. No offense taken seeing as I agree with you. It's simply the only thing I can compare my RP experience to, as that's where I rekindled my passion to RP. I played Aion for over a year and didn't RP there, and my only other RP inclusion was chat-based back on P2P sharing networks almost 10 years ago. Though I will say I'm seeing an eerie correlation when it comes to Elins and the cat-race of this game..

I don't know how many friends you have, so don't be insulted if this is too few! But why would you only want to write a book with ten characters, instead of a book of ten characters who have the chance to meet 20 more protagonist and 5 more antagonists? Why can't the two books combine and make one super book, just your chapter introduces them from your point of view, not there prior history's point of view? ^^ No, you're correct in saying that it's just a handful! My friends are also very open-minded people.. but if you're going be throwing out some numbers, my bet is that the influx of new people is going to be greater than the established community. 1.0 was not very popular, I can't imagine the returning crowd over shadowing the hundreds of thousands of people who are coming in. (The closed-beta had about 700,000 people..) It's true there are things like lore we might need to get familiar with, but other than that we know our way around Roleplay.. and after coming from the Tera RP community, I just want to be in the place with the most people.

Well written post! I totally get what you're saying, so let me make this perfectly clear before anyone misunderstands any of my standpoints from here on out. I have complete faith that the 1.0 RP community is a fair and a good-driven group of people. From what I've already seen/read I can tell that we would(have?) gotten along greatly. With that out of the way I want blatantly say that the reason I won't be able to convince my group of friends who are starting FF14 is because they want to start completely new, both in RP and in the game-side of things, with nothing established on the technical side of things. The first chapter of a blank book, pen in hand!

I think we're strictly talking about the FF14 1.0 characters that will be transferred to the legacy servers.. People won't be losing much There is twenty-three linkshell posts (Unless I miss counted) and only one says they are not accepting new members. And the one, as I quoted above, is eager to RP with the greater RP community (Or most of the members). Gonna go off topic a bit to shed light on one of the technical standpoints here.. why is the term linkshell being brought up so often and spoken so highly of? Isn't it just a group-chat system? Did it have a greater purpose in 1.0?

I'm trying to understand why the very people who want to move to a new server because (as I understand it) they don't want to waste their effort competing against an already established economy and/or endgame community, would then turn around and ask everyone else to throw away all the effort they put into their character and start over again. I've seen this several times now, and it makes less sense every time. (I hope this is not a double post.. still not super familiar with this forum layout.. !) I think you answered your very own question there. The fact of the matter is, we're not asking anyone to do anything really.. it's us who are being asked to join a specific server instead of establishing ourselves in a new world. Depending on what side of the argument you're sitting on, you can use either train of thought to defend yourself.. It's sort of why I kicked my own statement in my post following about not totally being serious. The chances of talking my group of friends into joining a legacy server has about a 99% failure rate. If we begin to talk numbers (and this is me assuming again, I know I really shouldn't) won't the influx of people be the majority over the established group that has been here for a while? If you really did want to see the RP community flourish wouldn't you do anything in your power to see it grow in the best way possible? The real shame would be if there was no official non-legacy server announced by Yoshi and as such, the non-legacy server wouldn't be totally backed by this established community and the two communities would therefore be split down the middle.

Sure they are.. Have you read the events section lately? I have I am not on that server, nor will I have time to re-roll to jump off to that island. Guess I'm speaking for the majority here.. or perhaps the minority? Not sure how much time everyone has on their hands and what servers they joined.. I guess it's not good to assume.

If it really is a big as issue as everyone is making it to be, why doesn't everyone who wants to RP just start on a new server, including legacy players. Pretty sure that would break down any 'walls' that are being theorized On to a more serious matter though; why July 1st? We have about a week left and I doubt any kind of side announcement such as an official-unofficial RP server is going to be pushed to the top of Yoshi's things-to-do list. With open beta probably not starting until early August I would suggest moving that poll to around then. It's not like anyone is going to be RPing while testing in the beta is going on and we're just twiddling our thumbs outside of the game. Just my two cents. ~

Part of the main reason my group of friends and I don't want to join a Legacy server is because we feel the RP aspect of leveling up/gaining strength should be a big part of the RP experience. What I mean to say is that everyone starts from scratch; how long it takes others to reach max level (being semi-serious PVE'ers) is important to us since we pride ourselves on being somewhat skilled in that part of the game. Some people have different styles of RP and correlate their actual level/gear into their RP.. which I'm okay with, honestly. With that in mind it would be a little overwhelming to join a server and already feel 'outranked' in that aspect though.