moody

As a 1.0 who's "legacy" character is level 3 and broke... Agreed. I'm gonna be playing on a legacy server because that's where the community is based and because I want the option to see whatever differences are there for legacy characters in NPC reactions. In 3-4 months max I'd think the economies will have balanced out anyway. In 6 or so legacy players will be allowed to transfer to non-legacy servers at which point if the economies haven't balanced out, those who want to take advantage of their maxed out cash will be able to transfer and unbalance the rest of the server economies. Again, same situation. Personally, I wish they had just given the option to port over level 1 versions of your character with some sort of game non-effecting bennies (tattoos, NPC reactions, some extra quest line with special cosmetic gear...) and kept it that way. *shrug* But, that's not the decision reached. So here we are.

Well, then they'd have to make a Legacy and non Legacy RP server to make people happy and we'd still be in this position. :bomb:

RPing as a self-employed crafter and peddler this is definitely of interest to me.

That confuses me even more. That thread was about deciding between the two servers. Of course people had an opinion on which was better and supported it. :?

While weekly meetups are amazing, having helped run some of them in other games I'll note that if you want it to be scheduled weekly you probably want more than one person to be involved running the event. Life happens, and missing a week or two is self-perpetuating. "Well, last week I was already busy and had to cancel. Well, this week is pretty busy and another won't hurt. Well, we missed two weeks so how about we just turn this into a month hiatus. Well we haven't done it in a month, they seem to be doing fine without it and I needed to work on [x] anyway." I'd suggest starting out with a monthly event initially, build up the core format and a small group of people to run and assist running the event and then arrange who is "on point" each session ahead of time as you move towards a weekly rotation so that even if the 'founder' isn't there, the event can still run smoothly. The second note I'll make is that if you are running the event that has to be your primary concern. What I mean is that I've seen large group events where the people running the group got involved in their own RP (and who can blame them for wanting to) but while they did that the entire nature of the event changed around them or completely dissolved because there was no engaged and guiding hand behind it anymore. A good host/hostess is partly there to make sure people show up, but at least as important is the function of smoothing the social interaction of people with different personalities, goals, tolerance thresholds, and ideas of what's acceptable. Not trying to tell you what to do or discourage it. The idea is a great one and I'll try to swing by if it takes off

War against the big-enders!

I'm not seeing the disrespect being talked about here. Here's the thing. As far as I can tell this is a general RP subforum. When you post in it people from Balmung, Gilgamesh, and any other servers that have a bit of RP population to them. While I have no dislike or disrespect for the RP community on Gilgamesh (and will likely roll up an alt there for more casual usage) I'm also unsure of what's going on that they don't deserve any interaction from the rest of the community just because the threads have a target audience who are most likely to be interested in the thread. The other thread seems like a good example. While it is nominally about Gilgamesh the first post is good general RP guide. The event idea is obviously gilgamesh centric but someone on another server may want to ask about your ideas and/or permission to host a similar event elsewhere. Mr. Heat's post was a concern about his character style vs. another post entirely, so it seems appropriate that the author of that post pitch in. Maybe there's been harassment by PM, and in that case I'd fully support the Mods getting involved. I'm just not sure what public harassment spawned this particular thread or why it needed a public hearing.

So you're rolling an FFXI Galka?

Only 4 other male lalas to hang out with? Come on. Nobody can resist the lala forever. You'll forsake your miqo'te ways soon enough and return to the one true path. :evil:

Excellent excellent. Most of this matches what I was hoping to hear. Clear communication is key and generally people seem to expect some OOC running around. Sometimes I fear I'm going to end up really liking this group and then realizing that beneath the surface there's going to be a core of "one true way" RP... but there really isn't so far. :tonberry: Amusingly, I'm just fine with doing most of the overworld questing IC since it will be either "gathering supplied for crafting" or "travelling to [x] to set up shop" and the overworld quests themselves being completed can be somewhat ignored ICly as incidentals.

Not planned, but I admit I have tendencies towards Heroic Sacrifice, Bittersweet Endings, and Pyrrhic Victory I'm trying to resist them though.

I just realized server hadn't been mentioned. This is going to be on Balmung I hope I hope I hope?

I LOVE the roegedayn female models and was almost ready to change my concept for ARR to one. I started plotting out personality arcs that worked for it and figuring out quirks and basically designing a person around the lore I skimmed and the build and expressions. Then I listened to the voices again and those didn't quite ever sound right to me. I looked at what I was designing and it was really neat. It was a strong female character, rough around the edges and with a rough personality and a strong sense of humor... and realized I could only pull it off in real time in just the right mood with just the right setup... ... and I went back to my lala because historically that type of character gets dumped the first time I hit a major RL stress point because I lose the energy to keep up that particular mask. For those who can do it though... they're beautiful and my lala will come stare up at you and ask you to move heavy items for him.

I don't know if my schedule will align at all but I'm pretty gun shy with new communities in some ways ( For instance, I've been reading the RPC on and off for a good while and was only finally willing to join to reply to someone suffering RP burnout. Of course, now I'm posting like mad.) and would love a setup to meet with others not already in set groups or purposefully open to meeting those outside their set groups.

Yep, this. You've got to set the expectations accordingly (and be aware that some LSs/FCs may not be cool with this, depending on their stance on RP). The flip side of the coin can happen too -- people can treat the run IC even when everyone agreed you were OOC ("just some random Arcanist" would seem to work), so it's important, I think, to remind everyone at the end that you were OOC. I think this is more my worry than anything else. If I happen to end up in a group of RPers and they recognize my character as an RP character, then does it hurt their experience that for purposes of that dungeon run I'm OOC and does it cause them to have issues working it into their IC story if they have to mentally cross out my character and replace it with 'unremarkable random [x] that was there' whenever the work it into their plotline?

Not doing this and being determined to keep all of the plot elements IC on a character caused me to quit playing my main for 6 months or so at one point because of a major plot point for 'natural' characters where they put a techno-wizardry heart pump into your character... which if you followed the IC plot pretty much meant they weren't natural anymore. I had a plot arc for that character and she died near the end of one of the final dungeons ICly. I took several months and finally wrote out an extended story to explain the intervening time and altered her personality and setup accordingly off-screen while hooking into other character arcs with permission to bring her back and finish off her story satisfyingly. And yes, for those wondering, she stayed dead after. Retcon/magic resurrection setups cheapen that kind of plot event imo. You can also pretty easily say that your purchased it, traded for it, or were given it as a gift after saving the life of an off-screen adventurer who was involved in that particular battle. Possibilities are pretty endless without resorting to "my character doesn't look like this". I do think you should respect the uniqueness of that kind of gear by working out an IC explanation for it that's better than "Well I was walking around and found it" or that your supposedly non-combat character killed the hero of [whatever] or won it in an epic duel of some sort. Though I've seen those too. I agree with that. It's like going into a shared fiction anthology work and ignoring the world bible. Poor form imo, but I solve it by not playing with those people and end up placing them on ignore if they won't accept a friendly "I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in your form of RP."

After looking at the multi-classing thread I was thinking about this. So my character plan is going be a gatherer/crafter character setup (battle classes centered around going ARC/SCH/SMN as I'll be using the summons to justify running a traveling peddler setup solo. Cheap labor ftw :geek: ) But to that end, while I plan on playing the dungeons they often won't fit with my IC story, so I'll end up doing them OOC with non-RP groups or RP groups that are okay with it not being in my canon. Wondering how others feel about characters running things OOC, since this game doesn't support an RP flag to flip a character's name color or add a symbol to their floater. The fact is, I prefer RPing characters who aren't the hero of the tale. I like basing my stories off of interactions with other people in heroic tales or having my character's heroic tale be one of perseverance and personal evolution into a heroic state. However, I'm also a gamer. In Co* I was in a group of casual RPers for a good while that could take character from 0 to max level over a weekend without thinking it too much effort. We could run the task forces with non-standard builds and stack abilities on single characters to burn through the original buffed version of the purple triangles. I like dungeon runs. I like seeing the in game story and I like running the setup. It's just that I'm not interested in retelling SE's particular story plot with my own character. In the past this has been fine because there was game mechanic reason to make different characters with different setups and different classes so that I could have a character (or 3) in that vein that would fit in with doing 'heroic deeds' like this. FFXIV really doesn't lend itself to this (imo and so far ime) and I don't see myself bothering with alts much because of it. So... OOC dungeon runs unless I find ones that make sense ICly or will people be offended that I just don't acknowledge having done those things?

Thiiiissssss :love: Yep. THIS.

I completely agree with most of the sentiments here except this. I did Co* for something like 7 years straight with long gaps between new content because the community was amazing for a long time and then the sub-community I was in used that social system as a base. Once we drifted away from the game the group slowly collapsed over time. A lot of us, too late, noted that we wished we had never tried finding something else since that very minor sub fee gave us a touch stone for a shared experience. There is also a segment of players, likely a minority, who look at the F2P model and the rotating community it often engenders and count the subscription model for this game as one of the reasons we're going to be here paying it on day 1 of the relaunch. As far as RP style goes, I tend towards slightly comedic but touching on social and political issues within the game world in a serious manner. This is fun for me. I may argue with someone of a couple hours ICly and I'm having a ball. I'm enjoying myself, laughing at the keyboard and just grinning ear to ear. My hope is that everyone else is too, and I've been known to touch base ICly to make sure that others understand it's just play and that they're enjoying it after running into people who got horribly hurt that I questioned their character's 'pristine heroism' in character. I never mean anything against a player and it took me a good while to realize that a lot of RPers in these games are essentially playing idealized versions of themselves and thus take things very personally. So I'm careful who I RP with in more than a passing manner now.

My suggestion would be to go ahead and roll on an RP friendly server and just ignore RP unless you feel the urge again. RPers are still going to be the minority no matter the 'unofficial' status of the server so it's just leaving a gate open to you if you ever feel like walking back through. (Went through the same thing in Co* and basically stopped RPing except as comedy for a very long time. Was happy I could still dip in a toe once in awhile as I felt the urge though.)