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... So which one's Syl and which one's Jeris? Depends on the day and the amount of booze!
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Psst. http://coralsea.enjin.com/
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Is this still going? I'm an Australian player starved for RP.
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Yep. TURRIBLE. We haven't rped in a while, Dems. Time to fix that.
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Well it's more the reason *why* she is doing things. It's one thing for a person who be devoted to someone, it's another to not have a choice. And there isn't a *point*, it happened, and is turning out to be a pretty interesting thing for my IC friends to deal with. I'm not sure there is ever a point to RP, except to create interesting stories and have fun. It just doesn't seem all that interesting. This is BY FAR a personal choice. If your friends are having fun with it, then by all means. I'm just not getting it. I think of tempering as a major twist in a storyline. The only reason I'd consider it for a character is for that dramatic twist. If a tempering occurs and there's no real change in how my character acts or feels, then it seems pointless. But it's your story. I don't need to get it.
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Not sure she was as devoted as tempering would her. Natalie have a boyfriend? Now she doesn't, she only cares about her Primal. Natalie have friends? Now she doesn't, she only cares about her Primal. Like her job? Now she doesn't, only likes her primal. Tempering makes you completely unable to care about anything else. It's that level of devotion. But what if the primal also care about all those things? I'm trying to balance the complete devotion with the fact that the primal want's my char to do all those things. The being in question, who is tangentially related to primals, but not exactly one, is as devoted to my char, as my char was to her. What happens when the primal's will is for you to be independent and happy? If that's the case... what's the point in being tempered at all? It seems like nothing's changed.
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ANVEEEEEEEEEENA! Why you roll all these blond bombshells. :3
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Doesn't take much! LOL Cheers!
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Hey all! I've lurked enough, I guess. Might've seen a few of you around the Quicksand (R'ikve's haunt). If so, CHEERS! If not, HULLO! --MMORPG background My first MMO? Guild Wars (the first). I hated it. Tried WoW for a few hours. Also hated it. Didn't stay with a MMO until Star Wars: The Old Republic. Then Guild Wars 2. And The Secret World. Now FFXIV. I guess in this crowd I'm the MMO newb. --RP experience I started long-form narrative/forum rp when I was in middle school. It dominated my school years until college. My rp obsession led to a career in journalism. Now I'm tempted to take up a creative writing gig or four. I played part in a successful heavy rp guild in TOR until I moved across the globe. Now I'm looking for rp pals in a new time zone. --Character ideas/info R'ikve is a Seeker Miqo'te hiding from her tribal responsibilities. She hates Ul'dah... but can't fathom a leadership role out in the desert. She's irritable (might be an understatement) and quick to attack. So far she's signed up under two rival employers, doing the shadier, bloody business most White Knights cringe at. Wiki page here. --How did you learn about the coalition? Google! --What kind of a role-player are you aiming to be? Light, medium, or heavy? Heavy. Learning the lore as I go, so please be patient if I stuff up something. Bought this game only a few weeks ago. --Anything from real life you're comfortable with sharing? I live in Australia. I'm up late. :3
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Renault Delumiere - Dashing Rapscallion
Syl Souther replied to Renault Delumiere's topic in Welcome Desk
Antagonist rp is the ONLY rp. Good to finally see you on here. Now get started on your wiki page. -
That's what you get for being a false witness! I am the best false witness.
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Just as a point of correction: C'kayah admitted to breaking the law, and I'm fine with all the consequences that came out of that (including his death at the hands of a couple of overzealous Flames). Natalie's character was fighting with him when the same overzealous Flames arrested her. Her issue with this whole thing is that she was effectively asked to surrender agency of her character because of that. That's really the sole point of contention here. You guys made your own decisions. Natalie could have ran. She LET herself be god-modded in this situation. Also, know your IC rights! Immortal Flames RPers can't arrest you! You could get a Brass Blade involved on this and have the Flames RPer stripped down and beaten for over stepping their boundaries. If you guys need help with this, let me know... I want in on this... By the way, I had some hilarious RP with one of the Flames after I came back to "help" Natalie as a witness. The Flame ARRESTED me. I not-so-happily went along with it. He took me back to the office and grilled me on my participation on the incident. He thought my character had attacked C'kayah and friends! I went with it. An Augustine came by to help me craft a prostitute's alibi and I walked out short a handful of gil. It was awesome.
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I would agree about this... but the problem was that it was happening at like 1:15am. The other character said essentially, well you should be in jail at least a few hours. If it was like 8pm I wouldn't care, I'd have plenty of time to figure out what is going on, we could discuss it. However they wanted to end it with my character in jail, which in order to respect, I would have to refrain from any other RP stuff until they decided to log on and finish the RP tomorrow. I didn't feel like doing that, and I wanted to resolve the issue to some degree before I went to bed so I wouldn't have to sit around all day tomorrow waiting to see if this other person would actually log on. So it wasn't just the arrest (I let her arrest me), but also because I wanted some sort of resolution that could happen in like 30 minutes, (C and I had already been RPing for like 4 hours) so I could go to bed . To me thats another reason why you should ask before you do something crazy, people might be trying to wrap something up because of their real life schedule. So the problem wasn't that you were being arrested/led away and you didn't want to be... it was because you needed to go to bed? And didn't want to be stuck out of rp the next day? I feel like you are kind of misrepresenting what I said. It was a mix of various things. In the end I don't feel like the player has to explain their internal reasoning for why they make RP decisions. Yes, I understand that you think I should have gone along with it, I'm not saying someone is wrong if they do. I just think that if you are the one who walks up with no OOC contact, and you do something like arrest someones char, when they finally do contact you OOC saying, "Can we figure out a way to resolve this soon, because I want to go to bed", you answer probably shouldn't be "No". I feel like that post has kind of a malignant tone, like it's somehow wrong of me to to shift RP based on OOC factors. Like hey, people gotta sleep, if I'm about to go to sleep and someone walks up and stabs me, I'm probably just going to ignore them, or say ((I'm OOC)) because I don't have time to deal with it. There were a whole variety of reasons why I didn't want to end that night arrested, but they don't really matter. I would prefer if we didn't sort of nitpick the details and more focus on the overarching question. Because when people sort of call me out for stuff I did, I feel the need to defend myself, and the other person isn't here to defend themselves. The overall question is really about what rights does a walk up RPer have, and what responsibilities do they have to the person they are walking up to. I'm a huge walk-up RPer, I know I've approached your character quite a few times R'ivke, and I'm sure I am guilty of many of the things we've talked about in this thread. I'd like for this to be more of a discussion of best practices and guidelines rather than nitpicking a specific situation. You're right. I don't mean any hard feelings. There's a lot of stuff being talked about in this thread and I heard quite a bit about last night's rp situation too, so I meant that as a clarification.
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I would agree about this... but the problem was that it was happening at like 1:15am. The other character said essentially, well you should be in jail at least a few hours. If it was like 8pm I wouldn't care, I'd have plenty of time to figure out what is going on, we could discuss it. However they wanted to end it with my character in jail, which in order to respect, I would have to refrain from any other RP stuff until they decided to log on and finish the RP tomorrow. I didn't feel like doing that, and I wanted to resolve the issue to some degree before I went to bed so I wouldn't have to sit around all day tomorrow waiting to see if this other person would actually log on. So it wasn't just the arrest (I let her arrest me), but also because I wanted some sort of resolution that could happen in like 30 minutes, (C and I had already been RPing for like 4 hours) so I could go to bed . To me thats another reason why you should ask before you do something crazy, people might be trying to wrap something up because of their real life schedule. So the problem wasn't that you were being arrested/led away and you didn't want to be... it was because you needed to go to bed? And didn't want to be stuck out of rp the next day?
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I take issue with this as well. By that logic I could use this on every other character I meet. "Natalie--if you're being forcibly murdered and the other character disagrees with your OOC intent to be alive--then you're murdered. Obviously a compromise is ideal... but you don't get the final say just because you started the rp with being alive." I'm joking a bit, but I think it's true. Also I don't think a character walking up to talk to you counts as "Joining an RP". I think that if you approach people with zero discussion OOC, then you have to be willing to accept that they might not 100% go along with everything you say. I'll go along with like 99% of what walk up RPers say, but if it involves the death/imprisonment/disgrace/maiming of my character, it kind of needs to be discussed at least a little first, in my opinion. And that's why I said FIRST that it's rude as hell to enter into an intense rp without a tell. If that tell doesn't happen and you don't give the OK for that character to enter the rp... then forget it. Ignore the jerk. But once you agree to let that person join your rp, you agree to respect that person's rp. Again, it isn't outrageous to think that a lawman should be able to arrest your character. I think you're putting a lot into the thought of being arrested. There's a big difference between being arrested... being imprisoned (for short/long period of time)... and being killed.
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I take issue with this. There is no authority in this game beyond what we agree upon. By saying this, you're effectively saying that the OTHER rper has final say in what her character does. And that's just ridiculous. I said that. Not sure why it's quoting Augustine Frost. ((EDIT: Nevermind, I must be seeing things.)) The other rper is making a public arrest for the confession of a crime in a public setting. This arrest sounds realistic to me. (Granted, I wasn't there for this part of the Natalie-C'kayah-mage rp so it might've played out differently than I imagine.) If we deny the ability for our lawman rp characters to make lawful arrests in a public setting... then you're effectively castrating those lawman characters. Like what Augustine said, what's the point in rping a lawman if you go to arrest a person and you always have to back down because the character's author is squeamish in getting arrested? If you commit an illegal act in public, be OK with being arrested.
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I think you definitely can arrest people RPing in public, I just think you have to work around their goals for the RP. I had absolutely no problem with her confronting us and arresting my character, I don't think C'kayah had a problem with what happened to him either. It's just that at the end of the day, It's my opinion(especially after reading everyone's replies), if you walk up to people who are RPing, even if they are in a public place, you should respect their wishes about how they want things to end over your own. I play an authority character myself, so I took her threats seriously, and allowed myself to be taken off to jail, however when it was clear the player wasn't really interested in how I wanted it to end, things got slightly heated. Here's how I handle it. I see some interesting, intense rp in the open say channel, I ask before I intervene. It's plain rude not to. This goes for rp in super public settings (in and around the Quicksand) as well as the less crowded alleyways and desert. When I saw Natalie and C'kayah arguing with the mage, I sent C'kayah a tell asking for permission to push my character in there before emoting. I left the moment I thought my character's actions (if carried out) would take over the rp. Common courtesy. You're interrupting someone else's storyline. Don't make it yours. HOWEVER. Augustine has a point that some rp activities are better done in private (whether that's in party chat or far from the Quicksand). If you're confessing to criminal activity in the middle of a public place, expect to intrigue people and receive a few tells. Rpers like to get involved, not just ooh and aah at your creative writing skills. That sort of confession wouldn't realistically be done in the middle of a crowd anyway. I think it's wrong to think that you, as the original storyline creator, own the ultimate say in an rp that involves other characters. Once a character joins your rp, he/she becomes a stake in that storyline. That person's opinions matter. It's up to everyone involved to settle on a conclusion that's realistic and cool to all. Natalie--if you're being forcibly arrested and the other character disagrees with your OOC intent to escape--then you're arrested. Obviously a compromise is ideal... but you don't get the final say just because you started the rp with C'kayah.