Any of these character types out there for RP?

[Hali]

As far as I see it true creativity is working within the confines of any given setting rather than indulging all sorts of strange gimmicks to make one's character concept stand out from everyone else's. I've found that whilst many role-players get a lot of criticism for alleged elitism chances are if multiple role-players are putting across similar concerns to one another there may very well be some questionable elements to one's character that may need to be addressed.

 

WoW has a pretty volatile community at the best of times, let alone alone when you add role-players to the mix...but usually when I saw people being hounded for their character concepts it was at least partially justified. I guess what I'm getting at is that criticism shouldn't just be brushed off as role-players being 'mean' or 'spiteful' if there's numerous competent and experienced role-players putting forth similar concerns.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong. If I can't justify something within the confines of lore, I won't do it. I'm not about to go off and say I'm the son/daughter/shemale-first-cousin of and and also have a machine gun implanted in my forehead that no one can see without 3D glasses. lol

 

But there's a point to which hostility breeds fear breeds oppression of creativity and imagination, and then the cycle persists, even when concepts are actually viable. People begin to see red flags when there are none, and then proceed to make like a Weasel and flip the fuck out. =-B

[Dravus]

As far as I see it true creativity is working within the confines of any given setting rather than indulging all sorts of strange gimmicks to make one's character concept stand out from everyone else's. I've found that whilst many role-players get a lot of criticism for alleged elitism chances are if multiple role-players are putting across similar concerns to one another there may very well be some questionable elements to one's character that may need to be addressed.

 

WoW has a pretty volatile community at the best of times, let alone alone when you add role-players to the mix...but usually when I saw people being hounded for their character concepts it was at least partially justified. I guess what I'm getting at is that criticism shouldn't just be brushed off as role-players being 'mean' or 'spiteful' if there's numerous competent and experienced role-players putting forth similar concerns.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong. If I can't justify something within the confines of lore, I won't do it. I'm not about to go off and say I'm the son/daughter/shemale-first-cousin of and and also have a machine gun implanted in my forehead that no one can see without 3D glasses. lol

 

But there's a point to which hostility breeds fear breeds oppression of creativity and imagination, and then the cycle persists, even when concepts are actually viable. People begin to see red flags when there are none, and then proceed to make like a Weasel and flip the fuck out. =-B

 

Oh, definitely - a lot of the character concepts that role-players get up in arms about being 'against the lore' aren't even all that improbable. So long as exceptions to the rule don't become the norm I'm generally willing to give quite a lot of character concepts a chance. I don't really like ignoring anything outright unless it's particularly immersion breaking, since if I'm uncomfortable with a character concept I tend to just have my character make his excuses and dash off on an errand elsewhere.

[Hali]

As far as I see it true creativity is working within the confines of any given setting rather than indulging all sorts of strange gimmicks to make one's character concept stand out from everyone else's. I've found that whilst many role-players get a lot of criticism for alleged elitism chances are if multiple role-players are putting across similar concerns to one another there may very well be some questionable elements to one's character that may need to be addressed.

 

WoW has a pretty volatile community at the best of times, let alone alone when you add role-players to the mix...but usually when I saw people being hounded for their character concepts it was at least partially justified. I guess what I'm getting at is that criticism shouldn't just be brushed off as role-players being 'mean' or 'spiteful' if there's numerous competent and experienced role-players putting forth similar concerns.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong. If I can't justify something within the confines of lore, I won't do it. I'm not about to go off and say I'm the son/daughter/shemale-first-cousin of and and also have a machine gun implanted in my forehead that no one can see without 3D glasses. lol

 

But there's a point to which hostility breeds fear breeds oppression of creativity and imagination, and then the cycle persists, even when concepts are actually viable. People begin to see red flags when there are none, and then proceed to make like a Weasel and flip the fuck out. =-B

 

Oh, definitely - a lot of the character concepts that role-players get up in arms about being 'against the lore' aren't even all that improbable. So long as exceptions to the rule don't become the norm I'm generally willing to give quite a lot of character concepts a chance. I don't really like ignoring anything outright unless it's particularly immersion breaking, since if I'm uncomfortable with a character concept I tend to just have my character make his excuses and dash off on an errand elsewhere.

 

Yeah, that's exactly it, though when I have a problem with someone's character concept, I will attempt to politely point it out OOCly and try to suggest something similar, yet more fitting to the world. Some people, unfortunately, will simply cuss someone out as if their very idea was a crime intended to hurt the RP around them, when, in many cases, they are simply new or younger people without a clear definition of the lore. I've seldom gotten a poor response (save for the case of several notorious folks *shudder*), though there are those who will immediately become offended. Unfortunately, those are just as bad as the ones who go after other guns blazing.

 

Regardless! It's nice to, thus far, see a notable lack of both sides of that ugly coin, at least around here.

[F'ibril Nuhn]

As far as I see it true creativity is working within the confines of any given setting rather than indulging all sorts of strange gimmicks to make one's character concept stand out from everyone else's. I've found that whilst many role-players get a lot of criticism for alleged elitism chances are if multiple role-players are putting across similar concerns to one another there may very well be some questionable elements to one's character that may need to be addressed.

 

WoW has a pretty volatile community at the best of times, let alone alone when you add role-players to the mix...but usually when I saw people being hounded for their character concepts it was at least partially justified. I guess what I'm getting at is that criticism shouldn't just be brushed off as role-players being 'mean' or 'spiteful' if there's numerous competent and experienced role-players putting forth similar concerns.

 

There is always room for justified criticism or concern around RP characters. There are also ways to go about it that are right and wrong. You can approach someone and voice concern or you can stand up on your soap box shouted at them and damning them to hell for trying. I am very much for working within the world and letting your creativity flow within it, but there are some you try to confine you within the lore of the world to near restrictive means that scares away new RPers and makes old ones question why they RP to begin with. Just because you roll a Human Paladin, doesn't mean you have to work for the Stormwind guard or being a druid that favors the animalistic parts of nature does not make you a "furry freak".

 

To call back again to my Guild Wars 2 time, we had not even discussed the idea of even trying to have children or even if the characters would last as a couple. We merely played as a Norn male and Human female who met, were dating, and happened to like traveling with each other. There was no reason for us to be met with hate and anger in whispers telling us that due to game lore they could never have children together and it was silly to think they could among other rude comments that revolved around him "breaking her in half" if they tried to have sex and how them being in love would be impossible. Nothing we did was against lore or outside the concept of the world. We made two characters who liked each other, we never mentioned sex, breeding, or anything of the sort to provoke instant malice.

 

An example on wow was when I played a Druid who happened to be more in tune with the Feral side of things and happened to show more animal characteristics, like when his wife was pregnant he sort of went "Sleep walking" in his bird form and ended up stealing things from the guild house to make her a nest. Something simple, innocent, not really against any lore.. but I got marked as weird, a furry, and told my RP was "Stupid". However these same people thought it was super f**kin cool when Malfurion showed up with part animal body parts. Eh.

 

So that is why I am pleased to see a welcoming voice in the RP community of FFXIV over a Damning growl. You can critique and help shape RPers without making them feel like crap.

[Dravus]

@Corelyn:

 

 

Curiously enough I found through experience that many of those seeking to call other role-players out for every perceived slight against the lore were the sort who took numerous liberties themselves. The only difference being that they usually had a huge - almost cult like - following behind them. I clashed fairly often with a fair few prominent guild leaders back in WoW over that. On one hand they'd yell at people for including even the most minor of NPC's in their character's background story...and yet they themselves were claiming to speak on behalf of the Warchief/their respective racial leader. It was very surreal!

 

Though I agree - what I see in this community is very promising so far. Everyone is polite and friendly, even if they happen to disagree. I'm sure there's countless factors to consider, but I suppose the fact that we're seeing a fresh new start (for the game itself as well as many players who didn't invest in 1.0) ties in with that.

 

@F'ibril Nuhn:

 

I can relate to your tale - I've been in that situation myself in the past. I think some role-players are at risk at becoming a tad too zealous in their 'war' against any role-play they see as beneath them, justified or not. I also suspect a lot of them simply bash anything they dislike because they're simply bullies. Heck, there's role-players out there that scream 'ERP' the moment one character so much as shakes another character's hand. It's both hilarious and sad at the same time.

[F'ibril Nuhn]

Yeah, I can agree with all that jazz. The ERP tag has been thrown out soooo much that people no longer realize the difference between people in goldshire trying to bang anything they can for thrills or gold and Adult theme RP that ends up part of a romance story or just adult themed RP with two adults. It is insulting to play a character romantically linked to another, be it my RL wife's or another player.. and have idiots pointing calling out how we just want to run off and do our ERPing.

 

Funny note is I have often seen the people that accuse others of ERPing doing so while they amass a good following of groupies they sex RP with and simply do not want others taking any of their fun away. lmao

 

Sadly, sex drives so many these days that a lot of people forget that not every relationship is driven on sex alone or the desire for sex. If my character befriends a woman and sometimes even a male, it is assumed that friendship started because I wish to bang said friend. Sad days.

[Jove]

I can't say I've had much experience of these things, but surely it helps us all being here on the RPC forums when it comes to defining ourselves IC and OOC, regarding conflicts and stuff?

 

Funnily enough, IRL I kinda have this problem, I have a pretty dry sense of humour and there's been a lot of times someone has taken me completely serious when I really wasn't. I find it easier communicating on the internet simply because a quick emote can clear up any confusion.

 

Anyway to the topic at hand, I wouldn't put Logan into a certain defined role, but I can say I've had a lot of inspiration...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muW-yqp_YM4

[Aduu Avagnar]

Nako'li is more of a Red Wizard than a sage, he is capable with some basic levels of melee combat, however, is also talented at magic. IC, he isn't taking a Job to reflect the fact that he can't cast the big powerful spells associated with Black/White magic.

[Salty Lake]

As far as I see it true creativity is working within the confines of any given setting rather than indulging all sorts of strange gimmicks to make one's character concept stand out from everyone else's. I've found that whilst many role-players get a lot of criticism for alleged elitism chances are if multiple role-players are putting across similar concerns to one another there may very well be some questionable elements to one's character that may need to be addressed.

 

WoW has a pretty volatile community at the best of times, let alone alone when you add role-players to the mix...but usually when I saw people being hounded for their character concepts it was at least partially justified. I guess what I'm getting at is that criticism shouldn't just be brushed off as role-players being 'mean' or 'spiteful' if there's numerous competent and experienced role-players putting forth similar concerns.

 

I haven't played WoW since the game was only a year or two old, but I always rolled on RP servers and was surprised I couldn't actually find anyone RPing. Maybe I needed to find a guild, but I also never played a character past level 20 before rerolling to try something else.

[faceman7381]

Nako'li is more of a Red Wizard than a sage, he is capable with some basic levels of melee combat, however, is also talented at magic. IC, he isn't taking a Job to reflect the fact that he can't cast the big powerful spells associated with Black/White magic.

 

 

Hey, it's a Red Mage!!!

 

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Excellent!!!

 

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Are you gonna dress in red?

 

 

Cause well, it doesn't matter if you're black or white....

 

 

When you can be RED!!!

 

[Khyas Moonshadow]

Red mage... I'll just leave this here...

 

 

[F'ibril Nuhn]

Hey that is my old Galka not a red mage, silly wife! Oh.. you mean... Rosalind in front of me.. in the short shorts.. right. -nod- Red mage.. prr prr

[Hali]

Ooh, Red Mages. =-D Now, what I'd love to see is a Blue Mage!

[F'ibril Nuhn]

Ooh, Red Mages. =-D Now, what I'd love to see is a Blue Mage!

Oooh yeah. I love me some Blue Mage. Though I did love running around as Blue Mage Sub Red Mage claiming I was a PURPLE MAGE!

 

Out of old FFXI jobs, I really hope we see Ninja, Samurai, Blue Mage, Red Mage, and Dark Knight. -nod nod- some of my faves right there.

[Hali]

Ooh, Red Mages. =-D Now, what I'd love to see is a Blue Mage!

Oooh yeah. I love me some Blue Mage. Though I did love running around as Blue Mage Sub Red Mage claiming I was a PURPLE MAGE!

 

Out of old FFXI jobs, I really hope we see Ninja, Samurai, Blue Mage, Red Mage, and Dark Knight. -nod nod- some of my faves right there.

Purple Mage! lmao! That's awesome. Never played XI, but I've definitely got my fingers crossed for some of those in the future (along with a musketeer and thief class).

[F'ibril Nuhn]

I'd love to see some kind of gunner class.. My hope is they mix it with magitech so we can have a magic shooting gun like in Final Fantasy Tactics. We'll see how it goes!