Does anyone else get kind of annoyed at how Miqo'te are represented in the world?

[Aysun]

What i mean is how the NPC's are represented. Like 90% of Miqo'te women are either prostitutes,slaves,erotic dancers or just all three. There is even a fate where you escort a Miqo'te prostitute to her customer who then shows his pleasure with a rude gesture. Does anyone else find it a little...I dunno annoying?

 

Here's the thing. This race is not ours. It is SE's. They can do what they want with it. The Miqo'tes are being represented how they SHOULD be represented. It's lore that many of them are like that. Seekers are whores, pirates, bar-wenches, fishers, dancers, adventurers, yellow-jackets, Maelstrom recruits, and sisters in the desert. That is what they are.

 

Something I've been seeing a lot lately has been the 'modifying' of a races' lore to suit peoples' tastes rather than working WITH the lore to create an interesting character. If you don't like the race's lore, don't play it. Don't try to make it something else because you like how catgirls look and you don't like how SE made them.

 

/endrant

 

The point being made is that they are portrayed as whores here and there just for the sake of fan service when in actual fact the lore would imply otherwise if at all.

 

The point I'm making is even if it is for "fan service" as well, it is part of lore in game. Therefore it makes no sense to say that the lore would imply otherwise.

[YesGood]

What i mean is how the NPC's are represented. Like 90% of Miqo'te women are either prostitutes,slaves,erotic dancers or just all three. There is even a fate where you escort a Miqo'te prostitute to her customer who then shows his pleasure with a rude gesture. Does anyone else find it a little...I dunno annoying?

 

Here's the thing. This race is not ours. It is SE's. They can do what they want with it. The Miqo'tes are being represented how they SHOULD be represented. It's lore that many of them are like that. Seekers are whores, pirates, bar-wenches, fishers, dancers, adventurers, yellow-jackets, Maelstrom recruits, and sisters in the desert. That is what they are.

 

Something I've been seeing a lot lately has been the 'modifying' of a races' lore to suit peoples' tastes rather than working WITH the lore to create an interesting character. If you don't like the race's lore, don't play it. Don't try to make it something else because you like how catgirls look and you don't like how SE made them.

 

/endrant

 

The point being made is that they are portrayed as whores here and there just for the sake of fan service when in actual fact the lore would imply otherwise if at all.

 

The point I'm making is even if it is for "fan service" as well, it is part of lore in game. Therefore it makes no sense to say that the lore would imply otherwise.

 

 Aysun's making a pretty good point. Though any MMO can be like WoW with their easter eggs, in the case of Miqo'tes there -isn't- anything in lore that supports them -not- having many individuals in their race who turn to or are forcibly turned to (as is a very likely case) what you consider to be demeaning. Being a strong matriarchal race doesn't automatically say that you refuse to breed out of anything short of love or dedication to your people and your honor.

 

Fanservice or not, there really isn't any substantial conflict.

[allgivenover]

I think it's actually pretty well thought out myself, how Seekers are depicted in game. There's been a mountain of debate already in this forum about it, and it seems we're destined to debate it again. Which is alright I suppose.

 

A good number of Seekers are sex workers or downright bold about their desires, and you see it pretty much throughout Eorzea. The latter is even found in the U' tribe in the Sagoli, where a Seeker girl comments that she wouldn't mind you peeking at her bathing.

 

However, there's also a good amount of Seekers who don't show any signs of being lustful or a sex worker. My take on it is that in Seeker culture, sex isn't nearly as taboo or as closely tied with shame (like in modern real world culture) as it is in other Eorzean race's culture, and Seekers themselves vary wildly in personality and disposition. Some of them are perhaps more guarded about their sexuality, while others see no issue whatsoever with monetizing it. In that way I think SE has done a pretty good job of presenting how a race that likely holds few taboos regarding sexuality would interact with races that do have taboos about it. The other races that deal with social taboos regarding casual flings or have feelings of shame tied up with sexuality would be more likely to solicit prostitutes to deal with sexual frustration (and indeed, there is a correlation in the real world between populations that are more religious or traditional on the whole and the solicitation of prostitutes or the usage of pornography). Thus, Seekers who have no qualms about monetizing their sexuality have no shortage of eager customers.

 

Just keep in mind that these alien cultural norms do not reflect on your character negatively. This is a race of cat inspired people we're talking about here (and cats are not exactly monogamous, with kittens of the same litter often having different fathers). As stated before, Seekers seem to vary wildly in personality, and just as other humans monetizing their sexuality in the real world does not negatively represent you so it goes with your character and Seekers that do so.

[K'nahli]

But no, thats not what I mean. I don't have enough experience to argue about this too much but I don't think I am arrogant to say that not everything in-game can be taken as lore because there are some things that contradict each other. Dialogue for minor scenes and sub-quests are likely handled by a completely different team who aren't too fussed about how, in this case, Miqo'tes are represented so long as none of the main themes are broken.

 

If we were to take absolutely everything said in-game to be absolute truth then I am sure soon enough things would be drowning in contradictions and no-one would know what to believe. I'd rather follow the information that I've learned from this forum(which was collected from elsewhere) as the actual official word rather than what some random staff members decided to go with for a quest line in terms of dialogue. Not forgetting that English dialogue is altered considerably from Japanese version.

 

presenting how a race that likely holds few taboos regarding sexuality would interact with races that do have taboos about it

 

This sounds highly likely to me, I like your point.

[Aysun]

But no, thats not what I mean. I don't have enough experience to argue about this too much but I don't think I am arrogant to say that not everything in-game can be taken as lore because there are some things that contradict each other. Dialogue for minor scenes and sub-quests are likely handled by a completely different team who aren't too fussed about how, in this case, Miqo'tes are represented so long as none of the main themes are broken.

 

If we were to take absolutely everything said in-game to be absolute truth then I am sure soon enough things would be drowning in contradictions and no-one would know what to believe. I'd rather follow the information that I've learned from this forum(which was collected from elsewhere) as the actual official word rather than what some random staff members decided to go with for a quest line in terms of dialogue. Not forgetting that English dialogue is altered considerably from Japanese version.

 

What you have to remember is that the contradictions are going to happen for legitimate reasons. Seekers, for example, do not all live in tribes anymore. There are significant numbers that are off in Limsa, or being pirates, or whores, or dancers, etc. There are reasons for the different lifestyles, and those reasons are what we can latch onto to make awesome, unique, characters, while staying true to the Seeker lore, instead of making our own because we want to play catgirls.

[K'nahli]

But no, thats not what I mean. I don't have enough experience to argue about this too much but I don't think I am arrogant to say that not everything in-game can be taken as lore because there are some things that contradict each other. Dialogue for minor scenes and sub-quests are likely handled by a completely different team who aren't too fussed about how, in this case, Miqo'tes are represented so long as none of the main themes are broken.

 

If we were to take absolutely everything said in-game to be absolute truth then I am sure soon enough things would be drowning in contradictions and no-one would know what to believe. I'd rather follow the information that I've learned from this forum(which was collected from elsewhere) as the actual official word rather than what some random staff members decided to go with for a quest line in terms of dialogue. Not forgetting that English dialogue is altered considerably from Japanese version.

 

What you have to remember is that the contradictions are going to happen for legitimate reasons. Seekers, for example, do not all live in tribes anymore. There are significant numbers that are off in Limsa, or being pirates, or whores, or dancers, etc. There are reasons for the different lifestyles, and those reasons are what we can latch onto to make awesome, unique, characters, while staying true to the Seeker lore, instead of making our own because we want to play catgirls.

 

That is also quite true, but it doesn't make me any happier about it, eheh. Nor do I feel fully content that it wasn't just a tasteless(interpretive) attempt at fan service with no real reference to the way the majority of Seekers may choose to behave in Eorzea but all I am here for is to say that it was not something I was happy to see, even were it 100% intentional.

[Aysun]

But no, thats not what I mean. I don't have enough experience to argue about this too much but I don't think I am arrogant to say that not everything in-game can be taken as lore because there are some things that contradict each other. Dialogue for minor scenes and sub-quests are likely handled by a completely different team who aren't too fussed about how, in this case, Miqo'tes are represented so long as none of the main themes are broken.

 

If we were to take absolutely everything said in-game to be absolute truth then I am sure soon enough things would be drowning in contradictions and no-one would know what to believe. I'd rather follow the information that I've learned from this forum(which was collected from elsewhere) as the actual official word rather than what some random staff members decided to go with for a quest line in terms of dialogue. Not forgetting that English dialogue is altered considerably from Japanese version.

 

What you have to remember is that the contradictions are going to happen for legitimate reasons. Seekers, for example, do not all live in tribes anymore. There are significant numbers that are off in Limsa, or being pirates, or whores, or dancers, etc. There are reasons for the different lifestyles, and those reasons are what we can latch onto to make awesome, unique, characters, while staying true to the Seeker lore, instead of making our own because we want to play catgirls.

 

That is also quite true, but it doesn't make me any happier about it, eheh. Nor do I feel fully content that it wasn't just a tasteless(interpretive) attempt at fan service with no real reference to the way the majority of Seekers may choose to behave in Eorzea but all I am here for is to say that it was not something I was happy to see, even were it 100% intentional.

 

Thus returns to my original point: why do people play them if they don't like what they are?

[Lament]

Actually, that a lot of female Seeker Miqo'te turn to prostitution and/or otherwise making a living off of their bodies isn't terribly unusual, if you consider the Seeker lore.

 

It's implied Miqo'te are tribal. Seekers are part of patriarchal tribes, for the most part, and it's the strongest male that gets selected for breeding, which does tend to mean females are inferior in their hierarchy - it implies that they consider the male to be more important to the child being desirable than the female. Basically, the females in terms of breeding are vessels for the Nunh's strong offspring.

 

Most of the Miqo'te NPCs we see out there are females. And we see them away from their tribes, integrated into other races' worlds - they are, essentially, foreigners. They leave their tribes with likely nothing to their name other than whatever skills they possess. If they're good fighters, cool, they can end up as soldiers, or pirates, or mercenaries (we see quite a few of those). You could get lucky and land a job as a clerk or a tour guide, like we see in Limsa. Or you could get unlucky and not land a job. And then you might turn to prostitution. You know where else that happens? Real life.

 

Sure, much of it may be fanservice - but it's fanservice that actually seems to fit with the lore, imo. Plus, to a female Seeker, the idea of sex with a stranger may not be as taboo as it would be to us. They do have to bear their Nunh's offspring, and I doubt every single female who's ever bred with a Nunh was attracted to him. It's a duty, probably mostly mechanical and impersonal... like prostitution tends to be.

 

Regarding the FATE, I don't think it's degrading so much as... well, pretending to be submissive and completely into your client is a thing that prostitutes do? Female ones especially, unless the client specifically has tastes for being dominated. It's part of the performance. And the client being a Roegadyn isn't terribly unusual either - it's not as though clients only ever seek prostitutes of their same race.

 

To me it's not terribly unlike the Asari in Mass Effect - a female-only alien race that is openly fetishized by pretty much every race ever, including humans. Yet you also see Asari doctors, scientists, warriors... some of the most intelligent, powerful and wise characters in the series are Asari. Yet some still choose to live as prostitutes - seems to me we shouldn't judge, just like we really shouldn't judge what leads someone to become a prostitute IRL.

[BlessedSilence]

That's why I did not pick the race to play because they -are- very sexy (IMO) with not only looks but emotes as well. I have done the FATE in Costa many times but I guess I am just not bothered by those kind of things anymore.

 

But one has to keep in mind the culture who made the game as a whole.  I'm sure if westerners made it there could be differences. I mean the Miqo'te I know like to drink

[Jove]

Maybe it's because I started in Limsa Lominsa, but I really didn't get this impression about Miqo'te females (I can't actually think of any Miqo'te males represented in Lominsa).

 

I mean the very first cutscene while you're on the boat features two respectful looking Miqo'te females sitting there, chatting away and then of course you're attacked by pirates (easy to see how slaves are obtained).

 

But once I was in Lominsa, all I saw were female Miqo'te guards, the chief armorsmith, those working at the Bismark, some more very capable guards at the Coral Tower, fisherwomen, traders and this one girl that a very nervous Hyur male was meekishly trying to ask out... all female Miqo'te, none of them selling their bodies or being slaved. All strong characters.

 

You see the exact same thing outside of Lominsa, and it's also represented in the Arcanist story quests.

 

I'm not saying all female Miqo'te in Limsa Lominsa are decent citizens with respectable jobs, I mean it is a home of pirates after all, but the overall impression I got was not the same as in the OP. So is it a regional thing? I can't say, I've not really explored Thanalan.

 

It's the same with the Roegadyn though, a lot of quests and dealings around Lominsa would have me believe that most Roes are or were pirates, but you see an equal number of them as guards, merchants, builders and basically white knights.

 

I don't know, it just seems like a lot of facets of every culture is represented, depending on the location.

[Aysun]

Maybe it's because I started in Limsa Lominsa, but I really didn't get this impression about Miqo'te females (I can't actually think of any Miqo'te males represented in Lominsa).

 

I mean the very first cutscene while you're on the boat features two respectful looking Miqo'te females sitting there, chatting away and then of course you're attacked by pirates (easy to see how slaves are obtained).

 

But once I was in Lominsa, all I saw were female Miqo'te guards, the chief armorsmith, those working at the Bismark, some more very capable guards at the Coral Tower, fisherwomen, traders and this one girl that a very nervous Hyur male was meekishly trying to ask out... all female Miqo'te, none of them selling their bodies or being slaved. All strong characters.

 

You see the exact same thing outside of Lominsa, and it's also represented in the Arcanist story quests.

 

I'm not saying all female Miqo'te in Limsa Lominsa are decent citizens with respectable jobs, I mean it is a home of pirates after all, but the overall impression I got was not the same as in the OP. So is it a regional thing? I can't say, I've not really explored Thanalan.

 

It's the same with the Roegadyn though, a lot of quests and dealings around Lominsa would have me believe that most Roes are or were pirates, but you see an equal number of them as guards, merchants, builders and basically white knights.

 

I don't know, it just seems like a lot of facets of every culture is represented, depending on the location.

 

I'm glad you noticed those ones! There are some that hang around as less-respectable looking ones as well, though, of course. The dancers are in Ul'dah and scattered elsewhere, they dance in not much for clothes. x3

[K'nahli]

 

Thus returns to my original point: why do people play them if they don't like what they are?

 

Because these themes only came to light in-game! As for myself, I only discovered the FATE a few days ago. Anywho, something like this wouldn't deter me from the race or make me change my character after everything leading up until now. A stereotype does not define my character and there are many reputable miqo'tes/sunseekers in game as well. I just disliked how many Sunseekers were being portrayed ^^/ It felt it was stealing something from the innocence and beauty of all the PC miqo'tes I have seen.

[Lost River]

With me, I also think it comes with the territory. Mainly in Ul'dah you'll see the underbelly slum. Almost like Babylon, Jabba's Palace from Star Wars, and a few other historic pieces in the middle east. So prostitution would be more suitable in such a place, it does have a nation focusing on Power and Wealth. As well as a crime syndicate. 

 

Also, I think it goes with their race (species), after all, they are not of the human species, so in aspect, not all of their attributes will be entitled to a human mindset. As well as the time it's associated with, prostitution and such was more common place as well seen as power.

 

The game also has it's dark spots too, as does real life. Do I find it bad with such a FATE? No, unfortunate but not bad. Also remember what happens to the parties that go to the dungeons? I do, so grimly. 

 

 

As for sexy Roes. You have one right here. *flexes her sexiness*

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Also, cats are promiscuous biologically, so why can't Miqo'te share that feline trait?

[K'nahli]

*covers ears with hands*

 

 

"LALALALALA~ LALALALALA~"

[Hyunseo]

I'm not sure if this was brung up before, so I'm sorry if this has been brought up.

 

I find it kind of annoying when it comes to the Miqo'tes found in the Archer's Guild quests. It seems that if a Miqo'te isn't a harlot, she's a ne'er-do-well who causes all sorts of trouble for the Gods' Quiver and the Gridanians. And to make matters worse, said NPC is one of the only dark-skinned Miqo'tes, too.

 

And although I find it empowering that she happens to be the leader of her little gang of 'sisters', I feel like her 'villainy' is moreso laughable than someone to be reckoned with. It's kind of disappointing.

 

I won't go too deep about it, though. Maybe it gets better the further I level for the story quest.

[Oroban]

All dem sexy Roes, Khyros is going to stammer himself to death.

 

But yeah, outside of the Ul'dahn/Costa Del Sol areas, you do see a lot less of the seedy presentation of the race spread out all over. I mean, even in Costa Del Sol, Gegeruju's aide is a Miqo'te, and I took her completely seriously despite the sexy secretary getup. And yes, Y'shtola is amazing.

[K'nahli]

I'm not sure if this was brung up before, so I'm sorry if this has been brought up.

 

I find it kind of annoying when it comes to the Miqo'tes found in the Archer's Guild quests. It seems that if a Miqo'te isn't a harlot, she's a ne'er-do-well who causes all sorts of trouble for the Gods' Quiver and the Gridanians. And to make matters worse, said NPC is one of the only dark-skinned Miqo'tes, too.

 

And although I find it empowering that she happens to be the leader of her little gang of 'sisters', I feel like her 'villainy' is moreso laughable than someone to be reckoned with. It's kind of disappointing.

 

I won't go too deep about it, though. Maybe it gets better the further I level for the story quest.

 

What?! I love that character! She's so funny without meaning to be. I love her cocky attitude, it's so awesome.

 

 

 

 

That expression and silliness when confronted is just brilliant.

[Lament]

Since the FATE example came up, here's another example you encounter much earlier:

 

If you pay attention when running Sastasha, you'll notice a couple of things:

 

- There are a lot of female NPCs dressed as maids in there.

- The captain specifically asks where his 'maidens' are.

- One pirate NPC shouts to 'take the women alive'.

- A few of the NPCs have little dialogue bubbles which make a very interesting story. When you enter the captain's chambers, a maid asks what the captain would like today - then realizes you're not the captain. One female swears she is not one of the pirates, 'on what little is left of her honor'. Another (a Lalafell, to be specific) pleads for you to help them.

 

It's obviously implied the captain kidnapped those women (regardless of whether they were prostitutes or not) and forced them into servitude, likely sexual slavery too, based on the little honor left bit. Yet one of them still cheerily asks what the captain would like today - likely because if she tried to resist or was rude, she would get punished for it.

 

The game really makes no effort to skirt around the more mature topics, and while Miqo'te may be portrayed in that light more often, and that one Miqo'te's client was a Roegadyn... we have a sleazy captain (Hyur or Roegadyn, I can't remember right now) with Hyur, Miqo'te and Lalafell in his service, too.

[K'nahli]

We can't hide from mature themes just because they are unpleasant to imagine though. I noticed the same things in Satasha but it didn't really bother me. Well, I felt bad for the woman who spoke of her honour though.

[Hyunseo]

What?! I love that character! She's so funny without meaning to be. I love her cocky attitude, it's so awesome.

 

 

 

 

That expression and silliness when confronted is just brilliant.

 

I think she's gorgeous and funny, but she's funny without meaning to be. I suppose with the themes of the little story quest it's trying to tell, I expected her character to be more serious, while still managing to be spunky and witty.

 

Her badassery felt reduced to cartoonish half-assery than what I expected her to be like. I mean, I didn't expect her to be a Big Bad, but I did kind of expect her to be a lot more serious??? Or maybe a force to be taken more seriously??

[Lament]

It's much the same with the way Miqo'te are portrayed in some areas, though - the game isn't skirting around mature themes just because they may be uncomfortable.

 

Miqo'te seem to be the typically fetishized race, so it's not too unusual that some of them would resort to things like exotic dancing or prostitution. It's a way for them to make a living when there are no other options, and being part of a fetishized group means you get more work, so to speak. It doesn't actually imply promiscuity, like it doesn't for those women in Sastasha - hell, I doubt most real life prostitutes do it out of personal enjoyment. You gotta do what you gotta do to get by. So don't let it bother you too much.

 

And for the few who do it out of personal enjoyment, good for them - might as well make money doing what you like. If a male Seeker's primary duty can be breeding, I don't see why a female's primary hobby couldn't be.

[Rhylund]

I've already seen more than a handful of "willing slave" ladycats ICly and you can't throw a stone in any direction without hitting several "Nuhns" (usually 'perched' upon a railing/fence/bannister/etc.) 

 

I understand why it might annoy you, but they're the "fetish" race and the game doesn't seem to mind poking fun at that fact.

[YesGood]

I will say that I saw somewhere in a break down of Miqo'tes (I think either on this thread or a quote from somewhere else) that male Seekers -actually- don't get much in the way of a choice. Yes, they can choose to fight a Nunh to take over his tribe or start a tribe themselves (which is far more difficult) but ultimately, it comes down to the choice of the women. They are more LIKELY to take a male if he replaces a Nunh because he's shown that he's stronger and strength is what they care about. But males don't lay claim to women.

 

It sounds like the females choose to join a male's tribe, either because he is strong and of good stock or because the females of the tribe have influenced her decision in some way. The women still take care of the children almost exclusively, probably because the child's father can be replaced at any time.

 

Though it's not a matriarchy like with Keepers with the woman's name is passed down, I don't think male Seekers actually get a lot of respect outside the fact that they are the dominant male of their group, much like lion prides. Males aren't the primary hunters, females don't actually have real emotional connection to them, and their main job is to try and keep their position because that's how they survive and assure they will have offspring. While male lions are capable of hunting down their prey it's most often if not almost exclusively the females that provide. Without that steady income of food, they're left to prowl for an open territory where they can survive without being killed by another male.

 

So in essence, male Seekers probably -need- women and -want- to maintain their positions of exclusive-access lest they be cast out to wander and not have the chance to have more offspring. I don't think females are subservient or that the term 'harem' is used to denote that. It's likely not exactly like human harems as we know them where a man -buys- or is gifted women in order to appease him and/or to provide children to carry on his line. Women probably still make all the major decisions and leave the males to worry about whether or not they'll have a meal and a warm bed by the next sun.

 

There are a number of different ways to look at this scenario with Seekers. I don't think you have to say that everyone views Seekers as being flimsy bimbos who'll either do anything for money or have sexual relations with anyone without care. As it's been pointed out, it likely varies from person to person depending on where they're from.

 

A merchant from Ul'dah might speak down to a female Miqo in Limsa Lominsa and get much more than he bargained for. They did say in my story quest when I got my pass that many people in any of the city-states (specifically Ul'dah in this case) had never gotten a chance to go to Gridania or Limsa Lominsa. This sort of situation likely arises.

 

I personally don't care much for the stance of -people- who look down on other people based on the choices they make. Yes, Siobhain abhors robbers and bandits and thieves who prey on the weak, but she doesn't go around picking on them for no reason nor does she assume she understands why they're doing what they do. People choose to make their characters, more often than not, as close-minded on certain things as they are despite any reason in the lore that they might have to think otherwise or consider things as normal instead of being rubbed the wrong way by it.

 

I've made close minded characters on purpose, but it's usually that they're closed about what they'll do with themselves. Of course, I don't typically roll characters who have the freedom to be snooty because I don't have many who are rich to begin with. It's easy to hate something ICly that you don't really mind OOCly, it's harder to like something ICly that you hate OOCly. 

 

If you claim you hate or despise or plain don't like something OOCly, especially in regards to the way 'most people play' or 'most people see things' and you decide to take that dislike and find a way to use it in character, that's just one more great thing about freedom of opinion. It just worries me that we all, as experienced roleplayers, can have a negative impact on the thoughts and views of others. Whole communities of roleplayers, excluding none because we -are- a community, have caused people to be afraid they might not be as skilled as others, be afraid to ask questions for fear of negative (angry) responses, be afraid of being creative and unique, and to quit playing the game because of those fears. Worse, we pass on our opinions, no matter how often we -say- they're just our opinions and whomever can do whatever they like, to new people who misinterpret what we say and take the majority's opinion as law to use as their reasoning to avoid other new people or tell them that what they're doing is wrong.

 

It's all that I'm worried about and it's why I waste soooo much time trying to make points more open. Yeah, maybe it'd be great if the community unanimously decided that SE has it wrong and we'll furthermore ignore all the 'stupid' or 'annoying' things they do with Miqo'tes to sexualize them, but it's not really fair for everyone.

 

But I won't agree that 'lol, fetishes' is good enough for serious Seeker RPers. I understand you want to love your race and have them be serious. That's why many of us are trying to give serious, potential explanations for it rather than reinforcing any fears or feelings that all these situations are just a big, offensive joke.

[K'nahli]

Her badassery felt reduced to cartoonish half-assery than what I expected her to be like. I mean, I didn't expect her to be a Big Bad, but I did kind of expect her to be a lot more serious??? Or maybe a force to be taken more seriously??

 

But her sort of unphased attitude is born from her arrogance and feeling of being untouchable, isn't it? The elzen on the other hand who bantered back and forth with her made it a little comical by humouring her attitude due to their past run-ins. He is also cocky, he even insisted on going alone. I don't think he was worried about failing either. He just saw her as a rival and a past mistake that he needed to redeem himself for. I think both him and her had no intentions or worries about losing to one another because they were confident in their own abilities. The mqio'te and your character on the other hand treated it more seriously.

 

I dunno, maybe its just me but I thought it was a good scene ^^"

 

 

Edit:

I think some of that was aimed at me, Siobhain, so I'll just add that I have zero qualms with RPers playing as miqo'te courtesans or anything! I have no problem with that idea at all. Was just a little sad that it seems to be becoming a stereotype or general depiction of the race as a whole ^^

[Lost River]

With all of that, I think all those Miqo'te make it big in Ul'dah or at least try. And pssh, maybe Lost River should try her best as a courtesan. But, more of an Asian flair to it, yeah! Giant lady in a kimono.