Shameless Artistic License

[Tagyr]

Art is subjective. Personally I don't think anything of Picasso is art, just meaningful scribbles to me. Nor could I appreciate most 'new age' sculptures that you see in cities that are just jumbles of shapes thrown together at different angles and constructed at a great size.

 

I do however understand the effort it took to create some of these. I may never understand the appeal of the end result of some of them, but it took someone the focus and vision to create something like that. And having that focus and vision to me is the form of an artist.

 

To claim that what Chveya has done is not a 'form' of art in itself is like accusing the easel of doing most of the work for a painter. At least to me anyway. Me being a 3D artist that likes doing environments who frequently employs addons made by other people that generate smoke/fire and other things.

 

I do think overall this is a case of wrong impressions and misunderstandings.

[Tadir]

Okay

[Chveya]

Tadir, this is very simple.

 

You have no right to judge ANYONE'S art, but your own. You have the right to decide if you like it, or not. You have the right to choose if you wish to look at it. You have the right to raise a stink if I paint a picture EXACTLY like the Mona Lisa and try to claim it's mine.

 

But you DO NOT have the right to say, "This isn't art", and moreso, you haven't got the right to say I'm giving anyone a bad name because I choose to make pretty pictures as a hobby in my spare time.

 

What one man considers graffiti and an eyesore, another considers art.

What one man considers yet another trite photograph of the Golden Gate Bridge, another considers art.

What one man considers a crappy photoshop job, another considers art.

 

None of those people MADE their medium. But they all created something from it that spoke of who they are, and neither you, nor I, nor f'in' God himself has the right to judge that. And if you -really- went to any sort of reputable art or design school, you'd have had that hammered into your head before your freshman year was over.

 

Now, as I said -- I may not have been clear enough. I'm used to people understanding immediately that I am using pre-created materials. I apologize to anyone who hasn't been exposed to these sorts of creations, or had anyone explain how they're made.

 

But I will never apologize to you -- ESPECIALLY not with your sort of attitude -- because I make something that makes me HAPPY. You will never have the right to tell me I am not creating art. Even if all I'm doing is setting a dandelion on fire and taking a Polaroid -- art isn't something anyone else can dictate. It comes from inside you, and you alone.

[Shamadconde]

And the war continues.....

[Vareal]

C'mon kids, seriously? Knock it off, Poser and Daz3D are in their own respective art classes, I mean without Poser we wouldn't have the Dead Fantasy series. What? you think that guy modeled that stuff? lol, no, he's just one hell of an animator. So knock it off guys, really, it's not worth it.

[Xzenivar]

C'mon kids' date=' seriously? Knock it off, Poser and Daz3D are in their own respective art classes, I mean without Poser we wouldn't have the Dead Fantasy series. What? you think that guy modeled that stuff? lol, no, he's just one hell of an animator. So knock it off guys, really, it's not worth it.[/quote']

 

Agreed, and thats the entire point

[Tadir]

I already said okay.

[Gossamer]

I apologize if I gave you the wrong impression. I didn't think I was that vague' date=' but I'll be more clear in the future. I assumed specifying that my set-up included choosing models and items, and not texturing and modeling (as well as specifying that I'd need to obtain resources, instead of create them) got the point across.[/quote']

Yeah, but the opening post of this thread implied nothing of the sort. All you had was the following with a really pretty picture. So, please include a disclaimer in the future as I'm sure you do on your Deviantart account.

 

I has taken it.

 

(Freakin' ginormous pic placed behind spoiler for sanity's - and slow connection's - sake)

 

 

[UnbeknownstGhost]

I wasn't aware every picture of a woman had to be full of bulging tits' date=' maybe that's why my comic isn't popular.[/quote']

 

MOAR BEWBS

 

You spelled that wrong.

[Chveya]

Yeah, but the opening post of this thread implied nothing of the sort. All you had was the following with a really pretty picture. So, please include a disclaimer in the future as I'm sure you do on your Deviantart account.

 

I've apologized to you twice now. What do you want, blood?

 

I don't see any reason to go into mad-specific details when I post a piece of artwork. If you -want- them, ask for them. You didn't. You asked how long it took.

 

I'm not a mind-reader; I have no idea what you really MEAN when you ask me something. All I can do is answer what you ASKED. I don't need a disclaimer when I'm posting a -picture- that I created, using a program and resources that I own.

 

That's like posting a painting, and adding "Oh, but I didn't make the paint, or the canvas! Sorry!"

[Gossamer]

Um, actually I didn't ask you any questions. Besides this current issue, all I had contributed was a compliment. I think you've got me mixed up with someone else. Nor did I ask for "mad specific details". I really don't appreciate you biting my head off.

 

I guess I just don't understand. What's the problem with saying: "Hey, the model isn't mine" or "This was done in poser" in your first post? That way the obviously unintelligent people like me, who had not known such a program existed beforehand, would know better than to mistake what you've done as 100% your own work. I'm sorry, but your response above makes it hard to believe you're not perfectly happy taking credit for work you did not do.

[UnbeknownstGhost]

Silence is key.

 

Hows about we stop raging now?