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My FC has a whole alt side thats made to be purely antagonistic (Not evil, but they are Garlean mostly) in order to fight against our "good" characters (Subjective, since we run a darker themed FC) and we have branched out to different people before but I admit we're pretty squeamish about it in general. It requires a lot of OOC communication and a lot of people don't really like doing that. Our villains have hopes and dreams and things all on their own and really think they are doing what they think is right - but playing a Villain is really really hard when everyone wants a piece of you. You tend to get powergamed more often, you have to lose all the time so someone else can be the hero. It can be a PAIN, honestly. I've seen friends who are supposed to be undercover get meta-gamed as being Garlean simpy because they mentioned it OOCly. Somehow someone found out about it ICly when there was no evidence to prove it.

 

It's really a hassle sometimes

 

/endrant.

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My FC has a whole alt side thats made to be purely antagonistic (Not evil, but they are Garlean mostly) in order to fight against our "good" characters (Subjective, since we run a darker themed FC) and we have branched out to different people before but I admit we're pretty squeamish about it in general. It requires a lot of OOC communication and a lot of people don't really like doing that. Our villains have hopes and dreams and things all on their own and really think they are doing what they think is right - but playing a Villain is really really hard when everyone wants a piece of you. You tend to get powergamed more often, you have to lose all the time so someone else can be the hero. It can be a PAIN, honestly. I've seen friends who are supposed to be undercover get meta-gamed as being Garlean simpy because they mentioned it OOCly. Somehow someone found out about it ICly when there was no evidence to prove it.

 

It's really a hassle sometimes

 

/endrant.

 

If someone just "happens" to find out, then I usually have my protagonist just question their reasoning through logic--assuming my protagonist uses logic, and I'm quite fond of them doing so. Generally the metagaming is destroyed ICly because of that and that character ends up looking like a fool and has to apologize. If they don't, then I just try to avoid RP with that person.

 

It's not that I don't like being caught/found out/whatever. In fact, I'm quite open to the death of all of my characters--including my main. However, I try to avoid people that meta-game knowing things. It just makes for a poisonous RP experience to keep those types around.

 

That being said, I also have a guy that is purely in it for himself with Faye as his minion of sorts, as well as both of us having Garleans. If you'd like to meet up/RP with us sometime, I'd be more than happy to do so~

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I would certainly be interested in playing a villainous role.

 

Back when I played WoW, I was in an "evil" guild who were allied with the dark cult that drove much of the nasty goings-on leading up to and part of the Cataclysm. It was a lot of fun playing evil with a group that didn't overtly go about declaring their evil-ness in MWAHAHAHA-ing, moustache-twirling villainy.

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I wouldn't call my primary character "good" by any stretch of the imagination. Certainly, he's kind and good-hearted, but he's also a member of a band of criminals posing as actors, an inveterate liar, a spy, and an Ixal sympathizer. There's not much cackling or moustache-twirling going on, but he's definitely not a good guy.

But I think it's as much a matter of perspective as anything else. Is a free company dedicated to supporting the laws and culture of Gridania or Ul'dah "good" when Gridania is xenophobic and Ul'dah corrupt? Is a free company dedicated to fighting the beast tribes "good" when not all members of the beast tribes are tempered villains? They'd all certainly describe themselves as good, whether or not they are.

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My FC "Rose of Sharon" is an organization/cult that often times ends up being descripted as "evil" from the few people who have encountered it. That being said, any organization needs a goal, and not all the goals of the Rose's members are evil. The base requirement to join is "to have lost something one can't do without, and be willing to get it back at any cost, no matter how immoral it may be". Its members are obsessed with getting something, someone back, and will often do morally evil things to do so, even if the goals are for the good (of themselves, or someone else; after all, even villains think they're doing the right). For example, Jet'a is looking for his lost sister, and to find her he has broke the rules of his Keeper family that forbid males to fight and kill living beings, by joining the Black Mages, a job with many risks and "sins" in its lore and quests. He has taken lives, dwelt with magic affiliated to the void, and also practiced alchemy to coerce information through poisons and drugs.

 

Another side of the Rose that could be evil, or good, depending on point of views, is their recruitment system. They do not accept applicants. They will travel to fulfill their own obsessions, and if on their path they will stumble into people who meet the Rose's "requirements" (having lost everything/something that causes them to no longer really have a normal life; orphans, fallen heroes, men and women with nothing left, no purpose in their life), they will kidnap them and force them into joining them, less through coercing and more through persuasion.

 

Lastly, the Rose members do not speak of themselves to outsiders. That means that, while they may act for partially good and partially egoistic reasons, to the eyes of who have heard of them they will almost always look like bad guys. It's a 50/50, but we couldn't go with an evil organization without a goal, and "real" evil goals are not fulfill-able in RP, as they all go crushing against the god-moding wall (conquering nations, killing other people, stealing important stuff, taking over the world...).

 

We don't have any members so far because we keep most of our RP via LSs, but recently we've been trying to open more to public RP so, if anyone is interested and wants to ICly join, they can contact me via PM to OOCly discuss of encounters and IC recruiting (Rose of Sharon is an FC, but it is not necessary to OOCly join it to be an IC member).

 

Another character I have instead, Clive Stark, is not morally evil, but a plan moronic jerk. This often pushes others away from me when I RP as him, but hey, it's the price for RPing someone rude and harsh. I have a couple friends who have ICly seen Clive's heart of gold under his harshness, and enjoy every bit of RP I get with them.

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