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The Grindstone -is- now up in the directory for viewage. I also got the LS in game. Loooove how simple it is. And Zarek's pretteh smexy too. Oh, I also found a training circle outside of Gridania although I forget now what the name is. O_O There's an Elezen with a spear, is all I remember.

We kind of have to remember-- when it comes to romance, and for many RPers, just romance, some of us want good things to happen to our characters and not have them hurt. There -are- plenty of people IRL who, once they find out someone isn't single/looking, go about their business. There are probably characters who are this way too. But that's just in terms of romance. As Crimmera probably saw because they played on WRA in WoW too, romance is ideal to a -loooooot- of RPers for their character. It's stable, it's on-going, it's practically guaranteed dual-story development and sometimes we don't mean to but it takes over for us based on other factors. If we pick a partner, yes we can work towards it because it just turns out that way, but chances are, they're at least up to your standards or are at least in line with your mindset, which is kind of rare. Even the best RPers probably aren't going to allow their characters to respond well to a suave character who only wants them for sex, or with an RPer who doesn't agree with what they want to do like fading to black. That's OOC affecting your IC too. But those reasons for not wanting to pair up with anyone really, are widely accepted. I personally go with what you do, Aysun, most everything you say pretty much rings true with me, but I can understand not wanting your character to invest a lot of effort towards someone only to find out that they're just not going to be interested at all despite any work you put in because they're just dead set against a romance either with the character or OOCly. It's depressing IRL and it's more depressing IC, and some people just don't want that to happen. Also we have to remember that some people can be very sensitive for good reason in this game and especially in RP. It ranges from shy and concerned that what they're doing isn't good enough to fear of rejection. You can inadvertently have a lot of unintentionally negative impact on the person behind the monitor based on what you choose to say to them. It's not the same for all of us, but it still exists so whenever we can be accepting of someone else's stance on things, we should do our best to do so, even if it means we won't be RPing together.

@DAISHI I think you have me mistaken; I wasn't asking you to run anything or be totally committed to the idea and willing to organize any work yourself, I wasn't asking for someone to do this for my jollies either, I was asking for people to respond, which you have, -for the good of all of us- especially our new people and the people to come. @Everyone else: 1. As DAISHI said, this is to be a meet up point, or several meet up points, simple enough that if anyone ever asks 'Where's the RP hub on -blah-' You can tell them one of these locations instead of giving 'maybe these six places'. It's not where you have to spend the rest of your life. 2. I agree the guilds are too busy, I just thought it was the best place for people to bump into anyone if they were new and not part of the RPC. So, the side towns sound find. Busy or no, people will at least be moving in and out of them and not crafting for an hour. 3. On the matter of changing it up every week-- Certainly, we could do that. But the RP at those places would probably be encouraged to continue, otherwise they're not hubs. If there's more than three, maybe even more than one, we'll be spread awfully thin, don't you think? So the three immediate areas outside the majority city-states, Gridania is low traffic but the other two aren't. As long as people won't be standing in the building for huge amounts of time we won't be a big distraction to them and nor them to us. I think it does help to be in a place with some traffic, and it will likely subside a bit after people have started getting towards cap again and things die down.

Sounds fine. Even if we're not meeting at a specific time, so long as we have a certain place (or three, just for new people), I'll be happy.

Her figure arched forward, ribs curling down toward her abdomen as her arm, acting as a slingshot, whipped forward with all her might. With her footing planted heavily in place to add power through the swivel of her hips and torso, she gave a twist of her wrist to finish the maneuver. Siobhain released the shield from her grasp and let it whirl through the air with tremendous force. A gruesome sound soon followed as the metal collided with the skull of the once-fleeing archer, that sound soon followed by the thud of the body hitting the earth and laying motionless in minor contortion. Siobhain approached the unconscious archer to thrust a heavy boot upon his back, her throwing arm raising up so that her bicep was straight out from her body, elbow bent as her arm curled up parallel to her body: a flexed pose of triumph. 'Muria 1: Eorzea 0. (/butchers your character... It is too late, I am too tired, ignore my BS o/) I feel as though Siobhain is suddenly quite sexy. Thank you for that. <3

Me too. I saw a few people in the Adv. Guild in Ul'dah.

I must have missed that or misread, my apologizes. Hm chasing down an archer? That could be amusing to watch. Send a bunch of melee out to hunt down an archer. A ...strange game of tag. 'Cept, well, if the archer gets caught he's royally messed up. But eh, details. I realized that Siobhain has at least one thing she can do that I didn't think of while writing the character... *THROWS SHIELD* CAPTAIN AMURRICA!

Most RP sparing and training I have participated in or seen gets to pick up a weapon and go with it (whether real or fake) regardless of in-game mechanics as most RPers don't heavily take into play their profession beyond the gear they're wearing and the weapon they have, granted, weapons aren't limited to just what you see in-game. Such as, my archer carries around several knives (roughly daggers) on him for many different purposes - fighting up close being one reason. This also goes for magic classes. Burning my character in a ring of fire is not on my to-do list, I'd rather have him take a sword hit or knife puncture somewhere. I would assume many people who play characters that are going to be interested in a fight club are going to have some experience with hand-to-hand or basic melee abilities despite whatever the game mechanics may say. I don't believe you'll have a big issue with archers trying to use their bows when it's friendly(ish) fighting, blunted or not - RPing kiting around can get old really fast for all parties involved. Everyone has the option not to roll, as I mentioned in the LS directory and here. The events require rolling to make sure things progress quickly enough for everyone to be involved. I agree about the archers thing. S'why I said it! Hurraaaay! Agreement. I'd think they'd like some form of physical combat training as well as range but I was told that they should be included so... If people want to chase one down, I'm fine with it.

That sounds spectacular! Though I leveled out of Ul'dah so I have yet to see the place. I like it. Thank you very much!

There's Gilgamesh. It's the non-Legacy, unofficial RP server. Balmung is also unofficial but it's a Legacy server.

I didn't want to rant to death on Mihrimi's thread, and I nearly did because I tend to rant. A lot. So much. So the crises of having server poots and what not seem to (at least for me) have ebbed a little tiny bit. I'm not very high level yet. I mooooourn not having more time to RP. But I keep trying to beg people to be confident with walk-up RP and with Mih's thread I realized-- ya can't walk up to RP if there's no RP to walk up to. Is there any way, or any willingness, to arrange some kind of meet up for one day to make some feeble effort at starting one solid area for RP? Someplace people can go just to RP. I don't really care if it's a tavern at this point, I feel like there should be someplace, if even temporarily, and I'm willing to sit around and start conversations on my woefully inadequate character if it means I might have a place to come back to for some random encounters of the RP kind. I'm not saying an event at a strange, far-off place, just a place where we can maybe agree to meet on Balmung. Not just Balmung but Gilgamesh too. You could bring your friends or your groups or whatever, if we could just find a reason to go to some place for some period of time and maybe start something regular. I also know some people still haven't gotten the game yet and some people are still hardcore leveling but maybe if we put aside a little time to RP in one place we could help ourselves and others out. Just an idea.

If things don't work out for you in Gilgamesh, you come to Balmung. I will protect and probably entertain a tiny Lalafell with... antics. Or at least conflict. <3 It makes me so sad to see you didn't have any good experiences with so many MMOs. What happened to them? Or what are other people doing that I'm missing?! Do you still try to do para-post RP?

Oh jeez. =3=; If you're having problems finding RP I keep seeing a bunch of RPers outside the Bismark in Limsa Lominsa. You could try there. I also see RP a bit in the Adventuring Guilds from time to time. Please don't join a Linkshell or FC -exclusively- to get RP, unless it's one of those RP OOC hub LSs that are probably very, very helpful. I'm afraid you might end up disappointed or something, though XI:7 are pretty nice from what I've seen of them. Otherwise, you might consider checking the threads for one where people have asked for people to RP with. You could try to organize a couple people turning a place (like the Adventurers' Guilds in the cities) into an RP hub, at least that way others might feel inclined to come too. Then you could start a trend! Hey... that's actually a pretty good idea...

Hey, thanks! Outside of Misericorde, I haven't gotten much feedback on the choice. I agree, there need to be more male Elezen, plus it just seemed to fit better with his backstory. :thumbsup: I am happy to (attempt to) give feedback on e'erythang. Maybe we need a 'No <3 For Male Elezen?' thread. I've heard they're one of the fewest next to Lalafell. Rp-wise. But why?! We need male Elezen to give our Roegadames height-appropriate options! They're quite lovely once they've grown on you and I like their cultures and names.

You seem to favor the word 'shit'. I like how we all go down our list and we get to Lalafell and go '...'. 'WE DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND YOU, OUR ADORABLE LALAS!'

So far, I'm exceptionally please with all of these responses! Thank you all so much for replying, it's giving me a lot of different view points to mull over. I love it. I LOVE IT!

It's funny, I'm the opposite. My Roe could hook up with anyone but it probably won't be a Roe-- and I prefer 'bulky, hairy' men.

This is rather interesting. I mean, I'd like to say I'd get on board with the whole 'genetic differences make a huge, irreparable impact on sexuality' but we as human break the taboos of what we should find physically attractive based on our social experiences, upbringing, and so on. The concept of love often overrides whether or not we can have babies with someone or whether or not we would normally find them attractive. It's part of having the capacity for empathy and ideals that, so far as we know, many animals don't. While I generally like to avoid the whole 'Well they're all based off humans' excuse, it seems that culture would have more of an impact than genetics, given that Roegadyn, Elezen, Lalafell, and Miqo'te all have consciences and feelings like Hyur, who we kind of have to compare to ourselves more than any. But, it's interesting to see a different opinion.

Do pearls go -inside- the ear or... are they like... earrings? Do you just squish it in there?

If they were only proportionally larger than humans I might be a bit bummed too. I like Roe noses... SEA WOLF noses. I looked up close on every model I tried to make of a Hellsguard Roegadyn and the unique noses that could grow on me (like Merlwyb's) were mussed by the wet-patch. It's not even the fact it's there, it's the fact it doesn't reach to where the bottom of the nose contacts the upper lip. It's only halfway on there! Why?! What purpose does it serve?! Is it a tattoo?! Is it a wet-nose?! Why don't males have this problem? Because they have lion-ish noses, they're flat on the bottom and they're all colored in. Females have triangular noses that aren't flat on the bottom so the color doesn't reach all the way down. It bothers me, perhaps more as an artist than it does as a player. Are they supposed to be like that or did SE just get a little lazy? I don't know. I just don't know.

I posted similar things, I ran RP groups for years in a highly judgmental environment, so I'll take a gander: You can RP however you like. If you want to RP a different fandom altogether within FFXIV, you can. Nobody has any right to judge you for what you like to do, especially as a hobby, if you're not harming anyone. But RP, ultimately, comes down to compatibility. You can be the most open-minded person in the world, but if your style and someone else's don't match, then they don't match, and there is little anyone can do about it. I like planning things in advance and discussing characters extensively. I like having an idea of where my character is headed. I also know that plans are fluid and can change, but I still enjoy them, and I especially enjoy figuring out ways to get two seemingly unrelated characters to interact based on discussion (which by default requires some planning). I RP best with people who like to mix spontaneity with a bit of planning and plenty of discussion. Likewise, someone else may not enjoy planning in advance at all. If I suggest planning, this may annoy them, and make them feel like I'm trying to control the direction their character goes in, for instance. They may prefer to not disclose details about their character at all, and let everything happen naturally and spontaneously. They would RP best with like-minded people. Neither style is superior to the other. They're just different. I probably would not RP with someone who likes full spontaneity only, because it's likely to cause conflict - not because I think they're inferior. If there's a part of lore someone would prefer to be moderate about (or disregard altogether), that's their prerogative. If someone wants to disregard lore altogether, that's their prerogative. If someone wants to consider the main storyline as actually having happened to their character, that's their prerogative. There's no elitism in having standards. There is in pushing them on other people. You don't need to RP with someone if you feel their standards are too different from yours. That's okay. RP is like any other hobby - you like some things, other people like other things, and nobody needs to change what they like to fit the needs of someone else. If you dislike classical music, I shouldn't be making you listen to it. If I dislike rock, you shouldn't be making me listen to it. You can listen to rock and I can listen to classical music and we can both be happy. But isn't there a level of confusion for new people who see us say things like this that makes them think they need to change what they're doing before ever getting into the game? To act more in the way of people who favor or write really convincing posts or explanations, even if they're not entirely based on lore so much as their own opinions? People want to fit in, especially in something they enjoy. If I'm really impressed by a character and the RPer has standards like yours, despite my own, I'll probably try to accommodate you. Some people don't know how. It can be very disheartening or frightening.

This pretty much summarizes all of my feelings and concerns. Except more eloquently. Many of us -want- to say we'll RP in game regardless of anything OOC, but it does register, at least in our subconscious in the form of worry, doubt, or even fear, when people say things that make us worried about how they would perceive us. It might be one or two people but when ten or twenty start piping up with the same point, it makes us hesitant and distant, furthering the issue of people who aren't as open or bold about walk-up RP. I get pretty concerned that many good people I've seen on this RPC are just too good for me. Literally too good. Like their skills are faaaar superior to my own. That's enough to worry about without the extraneous fear of judgement or concern someone will walk off on me because of something I put in my character's background; worse is the fact that many of the people who feel this way would actually be just fine RPing with someone with an outlandish claim or a not-fully-informed background for their character than they present here in the forums.

1. I guess you'd switch them out, right? Keep them in a pearl sack? But honestly, how would you tell the difference...?! 2. This has always bothered me about games. WHERE ARE THE BATHROOMS?! I'm pretty sure those little things outside the Cantina in Nar Shadaa (SWTOR, I know I'm ruining the name) were porta-potties. Pretty sure. There are also outhouses in WoW but apparently the HORDE doesn't ever use the bathroom -or- they just go in the streets because I've yet to see a bathroom anywhere. Are there toilets? Do they go the old fashioned Roman way, in holes in the ground with great plumbing but they use sticks instead of toilet paper? Do they do the European thing with chamber pots? CAN YOU BUILD AN AIRSHIP AND NOT A FLUSHING TOILET?! Who knows...? Also, when do they get a chance to bathe? I'm honestly afraid of mentioning Siobhain's bodily functions, though I haven't been before. On a female Orc. She drank a lot so she commonly snarled 'I need to go flood the river' and just wandered off. I never thought too hard about where because I'm sure it would just aggravate me. 3. Siobhain hates Chocobos. Rather, she hates -riding- Chocobos so she walks nearly everywhere (until I get a Coeurl). Otherwise, I'm sure she'd use the aetheryte crystal if she had to be somewhere quickly, but it probably makes her a bit uncomfortable. 4. There's magic, but whether or not magic can be used for household items like a stove or a microwave or something doesn't seem very likely. You'd think it would be but honestly it seems like they've made big things in an effort towards progress (airships) but don't worry too much about the little things because life's still a bit too difficult to be thinking about how to get that can out of the fridge without getting up.

Reading this without commas created a horrific nightmare image in my brain. ...though I can appreciate the powerful aesthetic of female roegadyn, their noses bother me to a degree that I can't bring myself to play one. race? ...Antimony would likely look askance at an interracial couple, perhaps confused at how such things might work. It's not a negative judgment on her part, just the idea bringing up a certain degree of cognitive dissonance. Her former tribe had fairly strict rules regarding couplings, and part of her is still stuck in those traditions. However, perhaps moreso than interracial pairings, she would be very confused by non-tribal Seekers. If she sees a male miqo'te cavorting with a female, her brain automatically labels him as a nunh, which may subtly influence her own interactions with said individual. Likewise for someone she may perceive as a tia. 1. Sorry about that. =3=; THE ONE TIME I DON'T USE COMMAS! ARGH! 2. You too, huh? FREAKING Gerudo noses. With smudges for the Hellsguard. Though their hips bother me also. The shoulder to hip proportions in game make them look extremely masculine, which I guess is okay for Sio since I -did- say she, in silhouette, -could- be confused for a male Elezen given her size/shoulders. 3. I absolutely adore this. I love that you've taken an idea from the Seeker potential and used it to give her a view of others. Predominantly in the sense that she would subconsciously perceive males in one way or another and thus, intentionally or not, treat them differently at least at first. Beautiful.

Let's not go overboard. This isn't WoW where we have to get defensive because so many people are used to having things made substantially easier as time goes on, right? Trash mobs are trash mobs for a reason- they're trash. At cap they don't do anything for your experience, right? They just have a chance to drop nice things. If the boss is going to be uber difficult, too many just slow you down; but you're right. They're not in there to be skipped, they're there to be killed. In many games, they're there just to be farmed. But that alone doesn't mean the people here with legitimate concerns or complaints are wanting things to be super easy. You don't go into a heroic or a raid or an end-game anything to farm trash mobs; you're there to kill the boss. Trash mobs are just an obstacle on the way to the boss and they serve their purpose but they also slow you down.