New to roleplaying on ffxiv

[ValkyrieRangris]

Hello,

 

I was just wondering if this back story for my character would be acceptable?Or should I come up with a new one?

Any tips are welcomed.

 

https://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages/Valkyrie_Rangris

 

 

 

Quick ideas now:

 

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Tam-Tara based ideas:

 

• Traveling Knowledge Broker gets an odd request for information by a young conjurer named Edda
  
• Knowledge Broker feels something is off, she hears from the villagers that Edda is in Tam-Tara and heads there to check out the situation.
  
• Shortly after she is greeted by Paiyo Reiyo and some adventurers leaving looking very shaken up.
  
• The traveling Knowledge Broker is very baffled by the use of the little information she gave that had made Tam-Tara become what it is now
  
• Traveling Knowledge Broker spends many hours investigating Tam-Tara
  
• Despite having all the information she needs after weeks of coming back to Tam-Tara she keeps returning wanting to know more becoming obsessed with Edda's work
   
  

  Tam-Tara based ideas 2:

  
   
  

• Traveling cook regulars are Edda, Liavinne, Avere, and Paiyo are always making her laugh they all seem to butt heads often but they share a common goal which I really admire.
  
• Cooking for them becomes something very dear to me to see their daily antics.
  
• Avere and Edda are dating but Avere is not very nice to Edda.
  
• I confronted Edda telling her she deserved better and Edda just smiled at me with no response.
  
• I thought nothing of it at the time.
  
• I gave the group extra food and they went on their way to Tam-Tara.
  
• Cooking for adventurers later on I heard about a mishap at Tam-Tara.
  
• My heart quickly sunk and I rushed to the entrance of Tam-Tara.
  
• There I saw Paiyo a mess leaving with a group of adventurers.
  
• I entered Tam-Tara without any skills of combat hoping I be able to find Edda she was always the calm one of the group.
  
• Everything was dark.
  
• Torches suddenly lit as I walked by I heard a loud twisted laugh seeing Edda pale and with a cynical smile.
  
• I ran as fast as I could getting lost Tam-Tara spending my time running from Edda.
  
• Spending more time there made me see what truly was of Edda and it made me want to leave even more.
  
• I spent weeks running from her waiting for someone and having her twist my thoughts.
  
• I awaited for someone to come save me.
  
• Months soon went by and time faded away.
  
• I lived off of anything edible in my surroundings.
  
• A group of adventurers found me one day helping me escape Edda.
  
• My eyesight had change from being in the darkness for so long and my mind had also been broken.
  

  The Void Ideas:

  
   
  

  • A Conjurer gets a request to help assist a group of adventurers who are getting rid of a demon named Buso who has taken over a nearby Mineshaft.
    
  • Her duty is help assist the group while they defeat Buso.
    
  • The battle is successful but last second everything goes wrong.
    
  • The Void is very unhappy and drags the Conjurer to the Void.
    
  • Conjurer becomes trapped in the void.
    
  • Being tortured as entertainment, stealing her aether when needed but letting her stay alive for their enjoyment.
    
  • She awakes in Eorzea unsure of what happened but with a burning sensation in her head that will not go away.
    
  • She travels to the crowded streets of Ul'dah.
    
  • Orbs of light flow everywhere and twisted faceless demons dance around feasting.
    
  • The imprints in her mind and odd flash backs have seemed to effected her brain in a way that she is able to see the voidsent and who they are latched onto.
    
  • But also making herself in danger because of the voidsent knowing that she has this ability to see them.
    

    The Void Ideas 2:

    
     
    

  • An honest farmers daughter from Limsa who has two sisters
    
  • One sister is an archer
    
  • The other is a blacksmith
    
  • Unsure of what she wants she continues to live along side her father who hates his job, he wishing to one day be a rich merchant.
    
  • Both of her sisters went off to travel leaving her and her father alone
    
  • She loves her father but he complains a lot causing her to one day snap yelling at him
    
  • He takes her yelling at him very serious and forbids her from going outside
    
  • She thinks that he may be plotting something for him to get that wealth he wanted out of her
    
  • Shortly after her sister the archer returns maddened and sick she has been over exposed to Aether from her travels.
    
  • He hires a white mage to look into the archers health, she tells him that she has been over exposed and the only way to cure her is of voidsent blood
    
  • The father fetches his daughter and drags her up to an area that most people do not dare go to.
    
  • A voidsent appears and just stares at the man
    
  • "If I give you my daughter, can I have some of your blood?"
    
  • The voidsent seems interested and offers some of his blood for the human.
    
  • The voidsent takes the hyur daughter back to the void where she spends many of her years.
    
  • Her mind is blank she can not handle anymore of the void.
    
  • Seeing her as a used doll the voidsent release her back to Limsa where the once world she loved so dearly she could no longer remember.
    

[ArmachiA]

I don't quite understand your backstory... are you a Norse Goddess? Those don't exist in FFXIV and Odin is a Primal, not a God.

[ValkyrieRangris]

I don't quite understand your backstory... are you a Norse Goddess? Those don't exist in FFXIV and Odin is a Primal, not a God.

Hello Armachi,

Character background was inspired by Norse mythology and Ragnarok Onlines Valkryie Rangris.My character starts off as a servant for Freya but causes problems for herself causing Odin to banish her to a different world to live as a mortal. I know god backgrounds are frowned upon but my character is weak and not god like in FFXIV just very socially off and not use to living as a Hyur.

[Virella]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

[ArmachiA]

So, your character is from Earthen God lore but was banish to Hydaelyn? I certainly can't tell you not to do that but, to be honest, you're not gonna find a lot of people who would be down with that and want to RP that you're character is a God... from Earth... while there is evidence of being able to travel between worlds - it seems that only Final Fantasy worlds are connected and Earth isn't Final Fantasy

 

Also you're character wouldn't be a White Mage. Period. A Conjurer, sure, but saying your character from Earthen God lore is going to get the blessing of the Elementals to be a White Mage and use the Succor is just against all lore ever.

 

I'm just trying to stick to the facts with lore, and not... interject my opinion.

[ValkyrieRangris]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

I was not really interested in the lore to be honest. I rather build a character entering world like its fresh and build up from there.

[Domri Blackblade]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

I was not really interested in the lore to be honest. I rather build a character entering world like its fresh and build up from there.

 

wat

[Virella]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

I was not really interested in the lore to be honest. I rather build a character entering world like its fresh and build up from there.

And why are you asking for advice then? If not only to stir drama?

 

I'm really at loss here.

[ValkyrieRangris]

So, your character is from Earthen God lore but was banish to Hydaelyn? I certainly can't tell you not to do that but, to be honest, you're not gonna find a lot of people who would be down with that and want to RP that you're character is a God... from Earth... while there is evidence of being able to travel between worlds - it seems that only Final Fantasy worlds are connected and Earth isn't Final Fantasy

 

Also you're character wouldn't be a White Mage. Period. A Conjurer, sure, but saying your character from Earthen God lore is going to get the blessing of the Elementals to be a White Mage and use the Succor is just against all lore ever.

 

I'm just trying to stick to the facts with lore, and not... interject my opinion.

White mage because of a Valkyrie.

[ArmachiA]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

I was not really interested in the lore to be honest. I rather build a character entering world like its fresh and build up from there.

 

A...are you a troll?

 

Valkerie or not, the Elementals would never let her access the Succor. They control who gets to use it.

[ValkyrieRangris]

Rework your background completely if you wish to be lore friendly.

 

FFXIV has awesome lore, have a look into it, you will surely like it.

I was not really interested in the lore to be honest. I rather build a character entering world like its fresh and build up from there.

And why are you asking for advice then? If not only to stir drama?

 

I'm really at loss here.

So I have to build something cookie cutter? I was hoping to not be a fishmans daughter. I am cool with other people doing that but that is not what I am looking for myself. Oh well. I guess I will just roleplay else where. Thank you for the help anyway. Better to find this out now than to spend time into something that is not for me.

[ArmachiA]

It's not about cookie cutter. Why would you roleplay in a game where you ignore the lore completely? That makes... no sense. The lore IS THE WORLD, if you ignore the world and the rules that govern the world... why are you here?

 

I like how you assume a fisherman's daughter would be boring though...

[ValkyrieRangris]

It's not about cookie cutter. Why would you roleplay in a game where you ignore the lore completely? That makes... no sense. The lore IS THE WORLD, if you ignore the world and the rules that govern the world... why are you here?

 

I like how you assume a fisherman's daughter would be boring though...

A world is something that can be built on without restrictions. I do not find roleplaying as a fishermans daughter exciting and I do not see it as an issue if others enjoy it. I do not like roleplaying as a fishermans daughter for myself though.

[ArmachiA]

This world is already built however, it's built by the Developers and GMs of the game, so it indeed has restrictions. This world isn't built by us, the players, it's built by an extensive team at Square Enix. They gave the world it's own set of rules and checks/balances that - as characters living in Eorzea - our characters abide by (Because that is their reality, it is like Humans and Earth. There are certain rulesour reality has). They made they rules, completely ignoring them is basically saying "I do not want to live in your world" which again, why are you rping here then?

[ValkyrieRangris]

This world is already built however, it's built by the Developers and GMs of the game, so it indeed has restrictions. This world isn't built by us, the players, it's built by an extensive team at Square Enix. They gave the world it's own set of rules and checks/balances that - as characters living in Eorzea - our characters abide by (Because that is their reality, it is like Humans and Earth. There are certain rulesour reality has). They made they rules, completely ignoring them is basically saying "I do not want to live in your world" which again, why are you rping here then?

Real roleplaying can build the world around you. Its text based everything does not need to be accurate to what is really around you. How the world is described is based on your thoughts and writing not the graphics or going down to every mechanic that is built in the game.

[Alothia]

The lore is built into the game for a reason, so that we don't have ten million special snowflakes running around saying that they're the daughter of this person, or a half vampire, half werewolf dragonkin, or whatever. 

 

I know you want to take a fresh approach, and I applaud you for that, but in truth, you're not going to find many people who want to RP with you if you're a goddess from another world. 

 

1. It doesn't fit in with the world or its lore, and so people are going to ignore that part of your story or ignore you.

2. It comes off as trying to be too special. What is wrong with being the daughter of a fisherman? That's what we are in game. We're adventurers. Sure, some have extenuating circumstances that have come about due to this or that. But the majority of us come from humble backgrounds.

3. You asked for advice. Please don't get upset when people give you advice based on what you asked. 

 

If you want to help build an interesting background that fits in with the lore, we'd be happy to do that here with you. But throwing out the lore completely isn't something that's going to go over well.

[ArmachiA]

It's not a mechanic. They actually built an entire world, with it's own story. Stories that are the characters realities. Elementals control the Succor. There are Twelve Gods. Bahamut almost destroyed the world 5-6 years ago. These aren't mechanics, these are things about the world that are the reality for all the characters living within it. None of those things have to do with the way the game is played, but the way the characters LIVE in the game. The lore isn't mechanics, its the living, breathing essence of the world.

 

Which you are choosing to ignore... so you can be a God.

 

 

The next time you ask if your character should be reworked, please actually don't get mad when people tell you "Yeah it should be"

[Warren Castille]

Posting in a troll thread, etc:

 

1) Citing off-lore deities don't make for much sense in the general sense of things, but you're welcome to do that if that's the story you wish to tell.

1a) The people you interact with are also free to ignore it on account of there being no base in the world for it

 

2) White Magic in FFXIV isn't the conventional Healing Magic most people think of when referring to it. In XIV, White Magic is a very specific brand of magical power that is only given to very, very specific individuals. It's possible to cast healing magic without it being White Magic.

2a) The Elementals of XIV's world once created a near-extinction event due to use of that magic being used too much. It's not something to just assume you have permission to.

 

3) Most folks here prefer the world as it has been written. I'm sure I could come up with a convincing storyline that features the Harry Potter universe crossing over into XIV and do whatever I wanted, but it would be easier to just go roleplay in a Harry Potter setting.

3a) It's not a great idea to openly rip a character concept and just drop it into a new game. Have you considered Ragnarok Online as your roleplaying community?

[ValkyrieRangris]

It's not a mechanic. They actually built an entire world, with it's own story. Stories that are the characters realities. Elementals control the Succor. There are Twelve Gods. Bahamut almost destroyed the world 5-6 years ago. These aren't mechanics, these are things about the world that are the reality for all the characters living within it. None of those things have to do with the way the game is played, but the way the characters LIVE in the game. The lore isn't mechanics, its the living, breathing essence of the world.

 

Which you are choosing to ignore... so you can be a God.

 

 

The next time you ask if your character should be reworked, please actually don't get mad when people tell you "Yeah it should be"

I am not mad at all. I just expressed what I want to get out of roleplaying and came to the realization that this is not the right fit for me here,which there is nothing wrong with everyone has their own preferences. Thank you for time anyway but this will not be the right fit for what I enjoy.

[Kage]

I was going to

 

But I decided to comment.

 

You will find that yes, most of the users on these forums, and in-game will be quite open to broad characters but usually ones that tend to er... run into the idea of crossing dimensions or world travels won't be treated kindly or lore-adherent. And almost everyone here would prefer to stick to lore-adherent roleplay.

 

This game's major draw is its story. The lore in it. While you think it is just the mechanics involved, this is not a game where people will build stories that do not mesh well trying to force your own creations into it. The expansion coming out in 3.0 will LOCK. People. Out. of the new areas based upon the stories and quests that have come out in 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and soon 2.55.

 

Unfortunately, you will most likely not find people in the game with similar views unless you specifically ask for players who would RP only as a small group.

[allgivenover]

Let's discard the special argument for a moment and just approach it from another way. What does this sort of background bring to the table in RP?

 

* She tells other characters where she came from and they say "oh wow", and then nothing happens.

 

* She tells other characters where she came from and they don't believe her, and then nothing happens.

 

My point is, it doesn't really add anything to the roleplay you'll actually be doing. It's just a special detail that makes her origin unique and cannot be used by anyone else or built upon because it has no grounding in the game lore, and thus no common acceptance.

[ValkyrieRangris]

Posting in a troll thread, etc:

 

1) Citing off-lore deities don't make for much sense in the general sense of things, but you're welcome to do that if that's the story you wish to tell.

1a) The people you interact with are also free to ignore it on account of there being no base in the world for it

 

2) White Magic in FFXIV isn't the conventional Healing Magic most people think of when referring to it. In XIV, White Magic is a very specific brand of magical power that is only given to very, very specific individuals. It's possible to cast healing magic without it being White Magic.

2a) The Elementals of XIV's world once created a near-extinction event due to use of that magic being used too much. It's not something to just assume you have permission to.

 

3) Most folks here prefer the world as it has been written. I'm sure I could come up with a convincing storyline that features the Harry Potter universe crossing over into XIV and do whatever I wanted, but it would be easier to just go roleplay in a Harry Potter setting.

3a) It's not a great idea to openly rip a character concept and just drop it into a new game. Have you considered Ragnarok Online as your roleplaying community?

 

Have not come across a roleplaying community for RO. I really enjoyed the plot for the game a lot but sadly the game is not the same as it use to be. Tried RO2 did not like it. I really like the gameplay for FFXIV and I have read into the lore along with playing some of the FF games but story is not for me. I am cool with others liking it I admire people with passion but it is just not for me. I really like SMT games and would love to see another SMT mmo.

[Warren Castille]

Have not come across a roleplaying community for RO. I really enjoyed the plot for the game a lot but sadly the game is not the same as it use to be. Tried RO2 did not like it. I really like the gameplay for FFXIV and I have read into the lore along with playing some of the FF games but story is not for me. I am cool with others liking it I admire people with passion but it is just not for me. I really like SMT games and would love to see another SMT mmo.

 

Well... Hm. There's no real diplomatic way to put this, so bear with me.

 

If you approach other roleplayers with your character as-is and explain your backstory, everyone you meet will think you are completely insane. In fact, it would be like if you told anyone in real life that you were actually the goddess Rangris and you were Freya's chosen and you were banished to Earth by Odin because you revealed yourself.

 

The reason they would be the same reaction is because, to both real life and the game world of FFXIV, it is completely ridiculous. Imagine if you were playing Rangris in an actual RO setting and suddenly I rolled Mega Man into your game, claiming Dr. Light's lab had a malfunction and now I'm here to shoot bad guys? Or if Metroid suddenly appear and he started hunting bad guys?

 

My point is, the lore doesn't fit. You're again welcome to stay and try and find roleplay, but you're likely not going to find anyone willing to accept your character. That having been said, it does make a great basis for a completely insane character.

[ArmachiA]

Let's discard the special argument for a moment and just approach it from another way. What does this sort of background bring to the table in RP?

 

* She tells other characters where she came from and they say "oh wow", and then nothing happens.

 

* She tells other characters where she came from and they don't believe her, and then nothing happens.

 

My point is, it doesn't really add anything to the roleplay you'll actually be doing. It's just a special detail that makes her origin unique and cannot be used by anyone else or built upon because it has no grounding in the game lore, and thus no common acceptance.

 

THe sad part is you can come up with a "special" character that's completely lore compliant if people don't like playing "normal" characters, but they never actually look into the lore with any depth to do so. They just see it as an obstacle and thats really sad

[Darien Cadell]

I'm generally okay with cross-dimensionality as a writing exercise or creativity builder, but people who I've roleplayed with who have gone with it have all eventually either shifted their character to be more in line with the overall accepted world in order to get more out of the community or packed up and left.

 

I wouldn't avoid roleplaying with someone because of lore breaking or cross-dimensionality, but what I would do is have my character react as they would, which is with sheer disbelief, and recommending the lunatic being locked away for their own safety. That's worked well with people who didn't need to be taken too seriously, and helped bring others to understand why they were being avoided.

 

I'd say there's no need for such rampant negativity, as criticisms can be worked into positive "tips", but the troll with this one is strong.