BumblingSeaBiscuit Posted July 12, 2015 Share #26 Posted July 12, 2015 I've been doing some research into this very topic for my Au Ra. I was very intrigued by this princes in the NIN 50+ story. I found it rather interesting, but I found a conflict and was hoping maybe some folks here could shed some light on it. The princess says she's from a clan. The whole NIN story is about her and her clan, even including her vassals. She talks about her domain (land) and the small folk that live in them. The NIN leader, a Doman shinobi, Oboro, even recognizes her clan name. Now here's the conflicting part... She's Raen, as is her guard/retainer. Yet, we have this bit of text from the naming post: Just as is the case with most of the other races, the Raen also have surnames (family names). Unlike their Auri ancestors who employed clan names as surnames, the now-clanless Raen have adopted a more complex practice. Families of the warrior class (and generally the ruling class) are the only people “allowed” surnames in Doma, and they will often take surnames that displayed their battle prowess or position within an army. How can she be the princess of a clan if the Raen are now clanless? :dazed: Someone will be able to explain this better than me. However, nobility works very different in Japan. Princess is just our equivalent in English / structure. I still think they should have used something more akin to Lady, Baroness, etc, but it's a different system, different word. Plus, they sort of used up lady for Yugiri (though we don't know much about her history). Clan, in this sense, I think is just being used as an opt-out for "House." Link to comment
OboeShoes Posted July 29, 2017 Share #27 Posted July 29, 2017 Sorry to necro an old thread, but I wondered if there is any new information on this with Stormblood been out for a while. 1 Link to comment
Kieron Lohengrin Posted July 29, 2017 Share #28 Posted July 29, 2017 Any surviving Doman nobility would have been vassals and retainers to Lord Kaien and Hien, and would've been scattered by the Empire. Now that Hien is back and rebuilding a freshly liberated Doma, they may start coming back too. So far we've seen lupin, hyur, roegadyn and au ra swear fealty to Hien. You'd probably want to read up on the Sengoku period to the Edo period in Japan to get an idea of how nobility worked in a shogunate. Link to comment
Koro Dotharl Posted July 29, 2017 Share #29 Posted July 29, 2017 Just dont act like an ishgardian noble. Please! The culture is VERY different. Look it up. Link to comment
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