RP as an Inquisitor?

[Ekidna]

Hello,

 

I'm a newcomer on Balmung (will transfer on tuesday), not new on RP (several years of adventures behind me) but new to FF14.

I've read with pleasure some of the topics here and I'm very pleased to learn so much things about the lore.

 

I wanted to create a new character since I'll start the open-world rp on FF for the first time. I want to play an ishgardian, and was thinking about the inquisitors you meet on the storyline (and the DRK last quest).

 

My questions are:

 

> Is it possible to play an inquisitor in RP ?

> If no, would a high-born fanatic would be acceptable?

> If yes, I'd love to have as much details as possible on the inquisitor status in Ishgard's society. I didn't find many things by looking for the lore concerning this. 

 

Thanks for your help : )

[Zelmanov]

I highly suggest completing the Heavensward main story quests if you have not, there are some...complications in being what you wish to be.

[Momo]

Without giving too much away of the MSQ, yes there will be a few complications to being an actual Inquisitor depending on what time-line you wish to adhere to...some try to avoid going with an exact timeline, some have groups which all agree on a timeline, so just choose which one you feel will work with the part of the RP community you immerse yourself in.

 

As to being a highborn fanatic, I'd say upon completing the MSQ, and seeing all that happens, there is still room for this, though you would be amongst a minority, and much of that hatred within your character would have to come from ignorance of the truth, or a lack of trust in Ishgardian officials.  That being said, I will reiterate, please do this if you want, it would be an interesting sort of character, and maybe you can work in some conflicting actions with your character, maybe being a good person and helping the community, but still believing whole heartedly that dragonkin should die at any cost for all the trouble that they've caused in the city?  A resolution to that kind of personal dilemma would leave you with an even more interesting character full of emotional woe!

 

Just a suggestion, and good luck out there!

[ShoggMommy]

I'd have to agree with Momo. I would not say no, but nor would I say to finish it first. Instead you can take the rp as you play through the msq. Do note you'll be offset from the main timeline. My company is a month or so behind icly. If you can evolve your char with the msq and fine a group to rp with, totally have fun with it

[Virella]

I feel after the MSQ ending, there is still room for the inquisition. If anything heretics are more troublesome then ever before after that one thing happening in the end. However I'd imagine they go a bit more... thoughtful about with heresy claims.

[Ekidna]

I haven't thought of that.

But I do like your idea Momo (as much as I like moral dilemma and subtle contrasts in a character's psychology). Even with the ending of Heavensward, I think it would be totaly logical to have few people still hating the dragons for what they've done to Ishgard and wanting to see them die for all the sufferings the ishgardians endured. It wouldn't be surprising if 100 years of hatred would not fade away in a blink. 

 

I'd drop the idea of playing an Inquisitor - I should probably go for an ishgardian high-born, with extremist thoughts she will have to deal with in a world that's moving too fast for her.

 

But there's something that I have to ask...

 

Is Aymeric really loved by all Ishgardians? 

I'm not quite sure about this, but may his legitimity be questionned? With the blind faith of ishgardians for the Holy See and the isolated war-life they've endured, is the "truth" admitted by all? What do you think?

 

[Arthur]

Is Aymeric really loved by all Ishgardians? 

I'm not quite sure about this, but may his legitimity be questionned? With the blind faith of ishgardians for the Holy See and the isolated war-life they've endured, is the "truth" admitted by all? What do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

considering Aymeric's status as a bastard son who rose to power by his own merit, he's likely seen as a champion to the common folk, and it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they'd love the idea of class equity. so I can say with almost 100% certainty that lowborns/commoners would support Aymeric. 

 

we also know that at least one of the former High Houses (Fortemps) supports Aymeric, so there's them as well. however, Fortemps has shown itself to be one of the more progressive Houses, so you can be sure that it's not the majority opinion. (Haillenarte is also questionable though - they seem to have similar tendencies to Fortemps as a result of friendliness between the two. and let's not forget the fact that the WoL helped save their reputation, so Haillenarte is likely to be more amenable to their cause.) 

 

Dzemael and Durendaire probably, as a whole, consist of the most dissenters with regards to Aymeric's legitimacy. 

 

most highborn Ishgardians would likely oppose Aymeric and any change in class system because of their goddess given 'right' to rule. that, and as was mentioned by the late Thordan VII, it could throw many families into despair because their loved ones' noble sacrifice in the Dragonsong War would mean nothing. a lot of the Ishgardian psyche as a whole is built upon the idea of warring with the 'evil' Dravanians, so a lot of people could wind up disillusioned and without purpose.

 

so, I'm fairly sure that Aymeric and the 'truth' he champions would be a very controversial topic, and yet another issue that divides Ishgardian opinion.

 

[Ekidna]

Thank you so much for your reply, it shed a light on the subject.

I find it quite interesting and I will definately look for more ishgardian lore to construct my character in this political situation. I really love this part of the story and I hope I will manage to do something coherent with heavensward's storyline. 

 

If some of you know good sources to read upon this subject, I'd be glad if you'd share it with me ^^

[Momo]

I wasn't sure how far along you were in the story, but clearly you are to a point where you can see some of the conflict here:

 

 

Why I think Aymeric sort of does have blanket support of the people is because of, and in opposition to his legitimacy in the city and talk of it amongst both highborn and lowborn peoples of Ishgard.  As it is stated through the MSQ, he is recognized as the son of the supreme head of state by most, but is greatly known for his lack of attention to this fact, and his upcoming in the government through hard work rather than blood status.  The people will likely know of his action against his own father, and the kind of courage and heart it takes to choose one's beliefs over their family.  It would be hard to hate him, but not impossible, and I think that is going to come from confusion over events, possibly if your character had a family member or leader who is their advisor or confidant that feeds them their own misgivings about what is currently happening, I could see that influencing your character and making it possible to be seduced by lies.

 

You would always have a simple dislike for him now in the knowledge that we have seen him bow before Midgardsormr himself, which I would think may immediately garner a dislike for him even if he/she accepted his place as temporary governor of Ishgard.

 

 

The above was posted before seeing Tabris's post, so I want to state that it mostly agrees with that post, and adds a few possible plot points to his, I think there is great hope to have a character like the one you are suggesting, so don't give up, and if you have more ideas, plenty of people here to help!

[Arthur]

not a problem! (Ishgardian politics are super interesting to me, so. *u* )

 

a lot of the information I gave you is inferential, so it's somewhat speculative. all I can recommend is carefully reading through all of the flavor text - read every leve, quest, and summary the game gives you! talk to every NPC and be sure to note the demeanor of NPCs and any speech bubbles. a lot of understanding the peoples' opinions is reliant upon bearing witness to them and their lives, after all. 

 

as for the conversation I mentioned between Thordan and Aymeric, I've embedded it here because the forum refuses to let me just directly link it. 

 

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also, regarding some of what Momo posted! 

 

the fact that Aymeric is the Archbishop's illegitimate son caused him a lot of problems in his youth still stands. while he may not have used his blood relations to secure his position, you've also got to consider the idea that some people (probably highborn, as they value heritage over practically everything else) may still hold less than favorable opinions of him by virtue of his parentage alone.

 

 

and I hadn't thought of the implications of Aymeric bowing and apologizing to Midgardsormr, actually. for people who are still mistrustful of the dragons at best, this could throw the legitimacy of Aymeric's position for a loop. could actually be a great stepping stone for a former inquisitor character. (I say former, because it was an arm of the Holy See, and wasn't that dissolved?)

 

 

I'm assuming you've actually finished the MSQ, but I'm throwing spoilers up for those who might not be. (even if I personally think it would be a little silly - going in this thread is like running into a minefield of spoilers.)

[Ekidna]

I admire the details you're able to give me, really, that's impressive!

 

Regarding all the things you've kindly explained,

I guess I could be able to construct a character whose family have been greatly involved in the war and the hunt for heretics. A House that values heritage and duty to protect the Holy See in a neverending chaos against the dragons. 

Let's say this character has lost close friends and family members - maybe even the man she loved - in this war. She would have all the reasons to hate dravanians above all and throw herself in a raging crusade against all that relates to dragons. 

Now that the war ends and that Aymeric rises as the new ruler of Ishgard, she realises that all she believed in are all lies and that she hasnothing left remaining, apart from an overwhelming hatred she must conquer to adapt and live in a changing world, full of uncertainties. She's likely to be lost and missunderstands why someone as loved as Aymeric would kneel before a dragon.

Knowing the past of Aymeric and his political ideas she could fear that the changes he will bring to the city will destroy her status and make her an equal with the lowborns - whom she despises.

She will never share publicly theses thoughts - she will wear a perfect mask of dignity and pretend to "adapt". But she will be weak - and anyone who could whisper the correct words would easily push her to commit the worst deeds to secure her position and soothe her hatred. She will definately live in the past and will never be able to adapt to the new world, unless someone could possibly heal the wounds of years of sufferings as an heritage from her house. 

 

 

 

 

Would you think this kind of character would be acceptable?

Do you see anything that could be wrong considering the lore?

 

Thanks again ^^

[Momo]

I think what you have here is a great idea, only one thing I would add is to pay attention to the major houses that Arty...Tabris, mentioned above.  If you have an interest in creating your own family of highborn status, I would give it a little push by making the mother or grandmother a member of the high houses.  I will let Tabris, come up with more sound RP ideas if the above is no good, he is into Elezen lore and politics to a greater extent than I, but as I said, everything else sounds absolutely wonderful and maybe for that extra little boost I would find a group that you could possibly work yourself into to allow some more chances for that dark underbelly to your character really come through!

 

Good luck!

[Ekidna]

I've read (and see in the game, not quite sure when, in the side quests I think) that there were small houses of lesser importance in Ishgard than the 4 Houses. I would never do something as difficult and controversial as playing a relatives of one of the 4 Houses.

My idea was to create my own lesser noble house and play a highborn woman of minor importance. 

 

Anyway I thank you for all your insights and help on the subject, and would gladly join this group to let this character grows and blooms in the shadows =3

[Arthur]

hehe, sorry for making things so confusing for you with regards to names, Momo. :')

 

anyhow, it's definitely viable to have your character be minor Ishgardian nobility. there are canonically Houses that exist outside of the four High Houses, so bam! you're all set. 

 

for more info on Ishgardian social structure, this thread here might be helpful. resident lore goddess Sounsyy dropped a ton of relevant info, so have fun!

 

and if you're on or intending to transfer to Balmung, the Ishgard RP linkshell could be a good place to start, group wise.

[Ekidna]

That thread was very helpful to have a big picture of Ishgard's society, thanks ^^

 

I'll transfer on tuesday and will definately use the LS and take a look around =)

[Ekidna]

I've transfered to Balmung =) 

I'm very happy to have done it!

 

Is it possible for you to add me as friend (La Pacificatrice)? I'm connected usually every night at 8pm (UTC+2) and can cannect at other hours on the week-end.

I'd love to benefit from your advices as a newcomer and I want to do things right by playing an ishgardian. Thanks : )