erosskye Posted September 1, 2013 Share #101 Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry for the rant, but I've been tempted to post this for the last few days due to the abundance of threads cropping up on pretty much every site regarding FFXIV. It has a habit of souring what is otherwise a wonderful experience! This thread has been a souring of what has been an otherwise wonderful experience. Its basically everyone just being introverted assholes to each other and its painfully annoying . I really cant believe a mod of the website has not locked this nonsense yet. Link to comment
Grott Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share #102 Posted September 1, 2013 Considering how hard it is to get in, idling and staying logged in seems like the best course to take to make things easiest on ourselves. Remember, this is the second launch of the exact same game they messed up. And they think free time is a good apology. People at my work would get fired for messing up this badly. We should start a game, name it something cool and hype it up, then after everyone pays and at release, say all the servers are down and roll in the cash. THEN we can start developing the game, once everyone has given us the cash to do so. Frankly, the level of entitlement in this post is outright laughable. "Idling and staying logged in seems like the best course to take to make things easiest on ourselves." Really? Here, let's do some math. First we're going to assume you actually care about being a decent human being and helping out others. So you can stay logged in for 36 hours straight and hog it all to yourself, but like I said, we're pretending you give a shit about your fellow human. If the average casual player plays roughly 2 hours and then logs out, you could potentially cycle in 18 other players within the time you're sitting on your ass watching Netflix. Now, I know there's a distinct possibility that you'll let in another person like you who idles for days at a time, but the potential is there to give a great deal of people a chance to play. Moving on, we'll get to your jab at SE for daring to "think free time is a good apology". It's free time. That's time where they let you play the game for free. How are you complaining? I guarantee if they gave you nothing you would still play, because you're still interested enough to post on these forums. The correct response to this "insult" is "Thank you, Square Enix." The last paragraph, I considered not addressing because I honestly thought you might be trolling by this point. Yes, I'm sure Square's plan was to crash the servers so they could roll in the cash. It was a big conspiracy and we all fell for it. They're sitting back in their offices right now laughing and smoking cigars and curling their villainous mustaches. Grow up. They're more stressed out about this than we are. We might not be able to play a game, but their careers are on the line. Also once again, extended free time =/= rolling in the cash. Is there any other ridiculous statement you'd like to make or are you done? 1 Link to comment
Dehqon Posted September 1, 2013 Share #103 Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry for the rant, but I've been tempted to post this for the last few days due to the abundance of threads cropping up on pretty much every site regarding FFXIV. It has a habit of souring what is otherwise a wonderful experience! This thread has been a souring of what has been an otherwise wonderful experience. Its basically everyone just being introverted assholes to each other and its painfully annoying . I really cant believe a mod of the website has not locked this nonsense yet. I don't see why a thread deserves locking when there has been no swearing or threats or any other unreasonable and personal attacks made. If threads like these really sour your experience so soon, then follow the same advice I was given by people of this same RP community: Don't like it? Don't read it. Link to comment
Clover Posted September 1, 2013 Share #104 Posted September 1, 2013 I only AFKed for 20 mins once because I really wanted to continue playing after my dinner. I logged off for 15 mins the previous day, and that meant I couldn't play for the whole afternoon. This said, even if I don't have the habit of AFKing, I can't blame people who want to stay on; if you don't do it, others will anyway. Everyone wants to play, it's only normal. I also can't blame the company. They're doing their best, we just have to be patient. Link to comment
Grott Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share #105 Posted September 1, 2013 I only AFKed for 20 mins once because I really wanted to continue playing after my dinner. I logged off for 15 mins the previous day, and that meant I couldn't play for the whole afternoon. This said, even if I don't have the habit of AFKing, I can't blame people who want to stay on; if you don't do it, others will anyway. Everyone wants to play, it's only normal. I also can't blame the company. They're doing their best, we just have to be patient. AFKing for 20 minutes to get dinner isn't bad. It's people who AFK for days that make me mad. It's not just their game. We all paid money for it. I have to disagree about the "if you don't do it, others will anyway" statement. While that's always a possibility, and there are people like that out there, I like to give others the benefit of the doubt. Whenever I log out for the night, I like to believe I just gave someone else a chance to play, and they'll do the same thing when they're done playing. It's all about being less selfish and trying to get everyone in who wants to play. We're a community, we should act like it. Link to comment
Fystrael Abylstyrwyn Posted September 1, 2013 Share #106 Posted September 1, 2013 I also can't blame the company. They're doing their best, we just have to be patient. Well, I guess they'll have to be patient as far as my money is concerned since I can't even buy a registration code for the game client sitting on my computer. No, I can't pick it up hard-copy, I live in the Caribbean; its cost half the cost of the game to ship it to me and they will take half a month. Let's not even start on customs. See you guys whenever downloads are allowed again, unless I can get someone to smuggle in a box to me. Paying $160 for a visa, $600 for a flight just to buy a game that I will have no time to play because my last vacation days are next week...game over for me. *Uninstall* Link to comment
Vinter Posted September 1, 2013 Share #107 Posted September 1, 2013 Whenever I log out for the night, I like to believe I just gave someone else a chance to play, and they'll do the same thing when they're done playing. It's all about being less selfish and trying to get everyone in who wants to play. We're a community, we should act like it. "Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi 1 Link to comment
Rhylund Posted September 1, 2013 Share #108 Posted September 1, 2013 Whenever I log out for the night, I like to believe I just gave someone else a chance to play, and they'll do the same thing when they're done playing. It's all about being less selfish and trying to get everyone in who wants to play. We're a community, we should act like it. "Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi Off topic, but Ghandi may have never said that. Link to comment
Clover Posted September 1, 2013 Share #109 Posted September 1, 2013 AFKing for 20 minutes to get dinner isn't bad. It's people who AFK for days that make me mad. It's not just their game. We all paid money for it. I have to disagree about the "if you don't do it, others will anyway" statement. While that's always a possibility, and there are people like that out there, I like to give others the benefit of the doubt. Whenever I log out for the night, I like to believe I just gave someone else a chance to play, and they'll do the same thing when they're done playing. It's all about being less selfish and trying to get everyone in who wants to play. We're a community, we should act like it. I understand what you mean, and that's a part of the reason why I don't afk myself. There are many people trying to play and they deserve the chance. But that's exactly why I'm also not against people who afk; in the end, they're also people who want to play. I can only assume that if someone goes as far as leaving their character afk for the whole night, it might be because they know they won't be able to log in at a time where the server is not full. I won't be the one telling them "tough luck. Just don't play"... ^^a; I simply understand that everyone wants to play, and thus they'll do what they can. (And just for the record, I just came back from lunch and now it seems absolutely impossible to log in). Link to comment
erosskye Posted September 1, 2013 Share #110 Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry for the rant, but I've been tempted to post this for the last few days due to the abundance of threads cropping up on pretty much every site regarding FFXIV. It has a habit of souring what is otherwise a wonderful experience! This thread has been a souring of what has been an otherwise wonderful experience. Its basically everyone just being introverted assholes to each other and its painfully annoying . I really cant believe a mod of the website has not locked this nonsense yet. I don't see why a thread deserves locking when there has been no swearing or threats or any other unreasonable and personal attacks made. If threads like these really sour your experience so soon, then follow the same advice I was given by people of this same RP community: Don't like it? Don't read it. LITERALLY posts this after a post with swearing. Apparently you really take that not reading into good use. ::face palm:: Considering how hard it is to get in, idling and staying logged in seems like the best course to take to make things easiest on ourselves. Remember, this is the second launch of the exact same game they messed up. And they think free time is a good apology. People at my work would get fired for messing up this badly. We should start a game, name it something cool and hype it up, then after everyone pays and at release, say all the servers are down and roll in the cash. THEN we can start developing the game, once everyone has given us the cash to do so. Frankly, the level of entitlement in this post is outright laughable. "Idling and staying logged in seems like the best course to take to make things easiest on ourselves." Really? Here, let's do some math. First we're going to assume you actually care about being a decent human being and helping out others. So you can stay logged in for 36 hours straight and hog it all to yourself, but like I said, we're pretending you give a shit about your fellow human. If the average casual player plays roughly 2 hours and then logs out, you could potentially cycle in 18 other players within the time you're sitting on your ass watching Netflix. Now, I know there's a distinct possibility that you'll let in another person like you who idles for days at a time, but the potential is there to give a great deal of people a chance to play. Moving on, we'll get to your jab at SE for daring to "think free time is a good apology". It's free time. That's time where they let you play the game for free. How are you complaining? I guarantee if they gave you nothing you would still play, because you're still interested enough to post on these forums. The correct response to this "insult" is "Thank you, Square Enix." The last paragraph, I considered not addressing because I honestly thought you might be trolling by this point. Yes, I'm sure Square's plan was to crash the servers so they could roll in the cash. It was a big conspiracy and we all fell for it. They're sitting back in their offices right now laughing and smoking cigars and curling their villainous mustaches. Grow up. They're more stressed out about this than we are. We might not be able to play a game, but their careers are on the line. Also once again, extended free time =/= rolling in the cash. Is there any other ridiculous statement you'd like to make or are you done? Not sure why your arguing with a player who is on a different server than you. 8-) Link to comment
Robyn Posted September 1, 2013 Share #111 Posted September 1, 2013 Crazy how this has escalated into accusations over how much people care about fellow human beings. I'm not sure something as petty as staying logged into a crowded MMO server is completely reflective of your morals as person. People are even throwing out Ghandi quotes? 1 Link to comment
Rodin Posted September 1, 2013 Share #112 Posted September 1, 2013 I don't really have much to add to this. I just wanted to show you all what everyone else reading is doing. [align=center][/align] 2 Link to comment
Levi Druthers Posted September 1, 2013 Share #113 Posted September 1, 2013 This is why these topics need to END. All I see are people getting pissed off cause they can't log in and taking it out on each other in posts ... and screw the "get a thicker skin" crap people have said to me. People will do what they do. Point your anger and fingers at the situation that needs to be remedied through Square Enix not at each other. The situation does need to be remedied through Square Enix, but that doesn't mean players can't do anything to make it easier for others while Square is working on the problem. People will do what they do, and they'll also say what they say, so get a thicker skin. I'm not "taking it out" on anyone. I'm trying to help a shitty situation by suggesting that everyone lend a helping hand to their fellow gamer, and give them some time to play the game, too. We all paid for it but some of us haven't even been able to play. This is a logical matter, not a personal one. There's always someone on every thread who doesn't seem to know the difference. I haven't attacked anyone with my thread. I offered a helpful suggestion. If people want to find offense in it, they're going to find offense in it. At this point, I don't care anymore EDIT: You know, I had an entire thing to put here filled with anger. Because that's all I ever seem to read. And now I am being personally attacked. Yes, I don't have a thick skin. Sue me. But that doesn't give you the right to be offensive and rude. Because all it has become is a thread of anger, negativity, and personal attacks. You don't believe me? Then read these threads again. Truly thought this place would be different that the beta boards or the main ones. Damn was I wrong. I am sorry I am not perfect as you, Uther. But that doesn't mean I am not a human being, which many seem to have forgotten now, even you. Link to comment
Vinter Posted September 1, 2013 Share #114 Posted September 1, 2013 Crazy how this has escalated into accusations over how much people care about fellow human beings. I'm not sure something as petty as staying logged into a crowded MMO server is completely reflective of your morals as person. People are even throwing out Ghandi quotes? Everything you do is reflective of who you are as a person. There's no OOC in real life. Link to comment
K'nahli Posted September 1, 2013 Share #115 Posted September 1, 2013 Oh for God's sake, can we all just calm down a bit? I'm annoyed at the current situation too but there's no need to start mudslinging and people are starting to become offended. @Uther Yes, people are rude and unkind and it is a good idea for others to try and develop a thick skin so as to not be as easily offended by such things but don't use that as an excuse to be very blunt with the way you say things when you know there is a good chance people aren't going to take it well. @BloodWillow Tensions are high at the moment, please don't take it personally. It doesn't help that there are many people here of varying opinions as well so just try to see it as it is and not take anything to heart despite what it may seem. Link to comment
Kylin Posted September 1, 2013 Share #116 Posted September 1, 2013 This thread has run its course and hostilities seem to be growing. Locked. Link to comment
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