Let's get some Garlean role-play going!

[ArmachiA]

I've always treated story lead-up during a patch as the "current" situation, but whatever "end boss" there is in the patch, he or she or it doesn't actually die or resolve something or whatever until the next patch hits. Ragnaros wasn't beaten back until the next tier released. The Lich King wasn't defeated and summarily usurped until the day the Cataclysm patch hit. Each of the dragons in Rift were not officially dead until the next patch. Shandra Manaya did not truly die until the Alliance patch launched. But all the events and dungeons and various plotsy whatnots leading up to those moments are either in some vague "process" of happening or have already happened (depending on the thing).

 

It's what the RP communities I've been involved with in the past seem to have settled upon, and I think it's a pretty good rule as far as RP goes.

 

This is EXACTLY how I treat things, too. Nothing really happens yet till the first expansion or major patch that changes anything. When the first expansion hits then happened right before it

[LiadansWhisper]

I've always treated story lead-up during a patch as the "current" situation, but whatever "end boss" there is in the patch, he or she or it doesn't actually die or resolve something or whatever until the next patch hits. Ragnaros wasn't beaten back until the next tier released. The Lich King wasn't defeated and summarily usurped until the day the Cataclysm patch hit. Each of the dragons in Rift were not officially dead until the next patch. Shandra Manaya did not truly die until the Alliance patch launched. But all the events and dungeons and various plotsy whatnots leading up to those moments are either in some vague "process" of happening or have already happened (depending on the thing).

 

It's what the RP communities I've been involved with in the past seem to have settled upon, and I think it's a pretty good rule as far as RP goes.

 

This is EXACTLY how I treat things, too. Nothing really happens yet till the first expansion or major patch that changes anything. When the first expansion hits then happened right before it

 

Trying very hard to tiptoe around spoilers...

 

There's a significant gap between parts of the story. Like, stuff that happens around level 30 and stuff that happens around level 45ish, they seem to be weeks, perhaps more, apart.  All the stuff in-between involves a lot of travel and groundwork that probably takes quite some time.  I think that's a bit different from, say, WoW, where the Siege of Orgrimmar is going on right now (even though my guild cleared it the first week), and though there are events that take place at the very, very tail end of the raid, they won't actually be placed into the game world until the start of next patch.

 

WoW tends to smash things up really close together, whereas FF seems to ah...spread them out a bit?

[ArmachiA]

Then with FF, you can look and see what the release date is for Major patch/Expansion and plan accordingly. Know you have 2 months till the Expansion hits? That's when the storyline starts. They always give us plenty of warning before hand that there will be a change, so it's pretty easy to just roleplay accordingly. Right now the game just came out so time doesn't have to go SO FAST OmG to catch up the the game canon (Which, as you said, seems it takes a long time to ramp up).

[LiadansWhisper]

Then with FF, you can look and see what the release date is for Major patch/Expansion and plan accordingly. Know you have 2 months till the Expansion hits? That's when the storyline starts. They always give us plenty of warning before hand that there will be a change, so it's pretty easy to just roleplay accordingly. Right now the game just came out so time doesn't have to go SO FAST OmG to catch up the the game canon (Which, as you said, seems it takes a long time to ramp up).

 

Hmmm.  Well, I mean, if it works for you.  But there's just sooo much in the main Storyline that I'm personally not really wanting to wait like that.  Especially not for an expansion.  I mean, it should be a personal choice.  I guess it's not a big deal to me - including the events in the storyline, I mean - because there's no way on god's green earth Liadan would be directly involved in most of that.  So I mean, for me, it's out there, but it's not really clear and in my character's face.

 

I also think that telling people to put off the Storyline ending is a bit unfair (as there's even more that happens after the main storyline is over) when that period seems like it would be at least as interesting as the period leading up to it.  Especially for Garlean-loyal characters, there'd be a wealth of stuff to play with.

 

 

I say this mainly because I'm hearing that the next major patch is going to bring the Garlean Empire back into focus, and they're gonna be pissed.  So if you don't get to play out the on-the-run/sneaky/subtle part now, when exactly will you get to play it out?

 

[LandStander]

Honestly I just ignore the main story as much as possible. I had a problem in Guild Wars 2 with people who claimed to kill the dragon, but NPCs (and myself included) did not agree that the dragon was dead. I think planning things to go along with the patches is a pretty good middle ground.

 

At this point and time, I wouldn't mind people saying that Titan has been awakened and needs to be put down (Don't think this is a spoiler since even SE has been parading this fight everywhere), but saying whatever happens to the Garleans at the end of the storyline (I havent reached that part yet) I think is pushing it too far. Say the Garleans are losing the fight and are pushed back, but in patch 2.1 they launch a second offensive, then I am okay with someone saying we were winning, but now they grew some balls and are fighting back. 

 

I just think its a great idea to keep the main storyline out of RP as much as possible, or else we end up with 10,000 people who say they beat up Neal.

[LiadansWhisper]

Honestly I just ignore the main story as much as possible. I had a problem in Guild Wars 2 with people who claimed to kill the dragon, but NPCs (and myself included) did not agree that the dragon was dead. I think planning things to go along with the patches is a pretty good middle ground.

 

At this point and time, I wouldn't mind people saying that Titan has been awakened and needs to be put down (Don't think this is a spoiler since even SE has been parading this fight everywhere), but saying whatever happens to the Garleans at the end of the storyline (I havent reached that part yet) I think is pushing it too far. Say the Garleans are losing the fight and are pushed back, but in patch 2.1 they launch a second offensive, then I am okay with someone saying we were winning, but now they grew some balls and are fighting back. 

 

I just think its a great idea to keep the main storyline out of RP as much as possible, or else we end up with 10,000 people who say they beat up Neal.

 

I think you can include the events of the main storyline in your RP without actually placing your character in the position of "hero of the day."

 

I want to comment on the rest, but you have not finished the main storyline and I can't bring myself to!  :love:

[Dravus]

I've discussed the matter in-game with a couple of players and gone through the replies in this thread. I figure the best way to go forward will be to consider the main story as 'still in progress' until the first content patch hits. 

 

 

I think it'll be good for something like this since it'll allow us to establish the Garlean forces present in Eorzea as a formidable threat and then later indulge in exploring how they cope with a string of defeats.

 

 

I've managed to get Caesius to level 15, so once I complete a few more quests he'll be granted airship access and be able to travel outside of Thanalan with much greater ease. Once I get him a suitable set of full armour that covers him from head to toe in order to better disguise him I'll begin engaging in role-play!

[Naunet]

There's a significant gap between parts of the story. Like, stuff that happens around level 30 and stuff that happens around level 45ish, they seem to be weeks, perhaps more, apart.  All the stuff in-between involves a lot of travel and groundwork that probably takes quite some time.  I think that's a bit different from, say, WoW, where the Siege of Orgrimmar is going on right now (even though my guild cleared it the first week), and though there are events that take place at the very, very tail end of the raid, they won't actually be placed into the game world until the start of next patch.

 

Anything pre-plot-cap has already happened. I'll disclose now that I haven't yet reached the end of the storyline (just turned 50 last night and worked my way up to Castrum Meridianum), and what I do know I don't want to give away to anyone who may be reading this and not wishing spoilers, so I'm still talking in some vagueries, but everything prior to the endgame in ARR can be said to have already happened. It doesn't matter how spaced apart things are 1-50.

 

At least, that's how I treat it, and how the communities I've been involved with in the past would treat it.

 

 

 

In other words, the Scions have already been decimated and reformed. The sylphs have already pledged to aid us. Ultima Weapon already exists and ate the primals Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda. All those kinds of things are done and past in RP terms.

 

[K'nahli]

• Things need to be reasonably fair. I don't want to see any meta-gaming if the remnants decide to hole up in a secluded location and then suddenly half of the server arrives for no reason other than to treat us as fodder to fuel their characters' heroics.
  

 

Hahahaha, nice point.

 

 

Anyways, I have no intention of RP'ing anyone on the Garlean side but one of my characters may prove useful to you for the sake of getting information, locating people or even acquiring them(assuming said person can play along).

He has no real allegiances or loyalties so it pretty much boils down to coin for him. Maybe something could come out of this for both of us! ^^  I sure hope so at least.

 

Good luck with your idea, i hope it works out great for you and all involved.

[Dravus]

• Things need to be reasonably fair. I don't want to see any meta-gaming if the remnants decide to hole up in a secluded location and then suddenly half of the server arrives for no reason other than to treat us as fodder to fuel their characters' heroics.
  

 

Hahahaha, nice point.

 

 

Anyways, I have no intention of RP'ing anyone on the Garlean side but one of my characters may prove useful to you for the sake of getting information, locating people or even acquiring them(assuming said person can play along).

He has no real allegiances or loyalties so it pretty much boils down to coin for him. Maybe something could come out of this for both of us! ^^  I sure hope so at least.

 

Good luck with your idea, i hope it works out great for you and all involved.

 

I'm interested in taking you up on that offer! There's a quest in the Black Shroud where a member of the Wood Wailers turns out to be working for the Garlean Empire - and being paid to do so - which makes me want to arrange a similar bit of employment for those interested. The difficult part will be figuring out how they'd meet.

[LiadansWhisper]

There's a significant gap between parts of the story. Like, stuff that happens around level 30 and stuff that happens around level 45ish, they seem to be weeks, perhaps more, apart.  All the stuff in-between involves a lot of travel and groundwork that probably takes quite some time.  I think that's a bit different from, say, WoW, where the Siege of Orgrimmar is going on right now (even though my guild cleared it the first week), and though there are events that take place at the very, very tail end of the raid, they won't actually be placed into the game world until the start of next patch.

 

Anything pre-plot-cap has already happened. I'll disclose now that I haven't yet reached the end of the storyline (just turned 50 last night and worked my way up to Castrum Meridianum), and what I do know I don't want to give away to anyone who may be reading this and not wishing spoilers, so I'm still talking in some vagueries, but everything prior to the endgame in ARR can be said to have already happened. It doesn't matter how spaced apart things are 1-50.

 

At least, that's how I treat it, and how the communities I've been involved with in the past would treat it.

 

 

 

In other words, the Scions have already been decimated and reformed. The sylphs have already pledged to aid us. Ultima Weapon already exists and ate the primals Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda. All those kinds of things are done and past in RP terms.

 

 

 

That works (and was basically what I was talking about in the first place).  Oh, if you need help with CM or Prae, let me know.

[K'nahli]

 

I'm interested in taking you up on that offer! There's a quest in the Black Shroud where a member of the Wood Wailers turns out to be working for the Garlean Empire - and being paid to do so - which makes me want to arrange a similar bit of employment for those interested. The difficult part will be figuring out how they'd meet.

 

*squeals with delight*  (Alex, I may have found you something at last ;w; )

 

The conventional methods might not be suited to Garleans I guess so perhaps a different styled meeting might have to be arranged in order to be more realistic and to justify it correctly. I'm sure we could think of something ^^

 

In any case, I assumed that you wouldn't be actually RP'ing any of this any time soon, but just in case you planned to, you should know that I have limited access to the net right now(since I despise this laptop) and no access to the game until I have my laptop's charger port repaired.

[Dravus]

 

I'm interested in taking you up on that offer! There's a quest in the Black Shroud where a member of the Wood Wailers turns out to be working for the Garlean Empire - and being paid to do so - which makes me want to arrange a similar bit of employment for those interested. The difficult part will be figuring out how they'd meet.

 

*squeals with delight*  (Alex, I may have found you something at last ;w; )

 

The conventional methods might not be suited to Garleans I guess so perhaps a different styled meeting might have to be arranged in order to be more realistic and to justify it correctly. I'm sure we could think of something ^^

 

In any case, I assumed that you wouldn't be actually RP'ing any of this any time soon, but just in case you planned to, you should know that I have limited access to the net right now(since I despise this laptop) and no access to the game until I have my laptop's charger port repaired.

 

There's no rush for me to get this started, so I'm more than willing to wait for you! It'll give me more time to level and get some decent looking armour to better hide my character's face.

[LiadansWhisper]

There's no rush for me to get this started, so I'm more than willing to wait for you! It'll give me more time to level and get some decent looking armour to better hide my character's face.

 

*pokes incessantly*

[Darien Cadell]

Technically, Darien's got some Garlean influence in his background, but he doesn't recognize it at this point, and I'm kind of holding those cards from him until "the right time" whatever that is. But someday probably maybe I don't know YAY ROLEPLAY HAVE FUN.

[Dravus]

There's no rush for me to get this started, so I'm more than willing to wait for you! It'll give me more time to level and get some decent looking armour to better hide my character's face.

 

*pokes incessantly*

 

Ouch!

 

You might see me around, though. I did a bit of role-play not too long ago in the Black Shroud with my partner since he wanted to meet Caesius. I just threw on the generic starting gear since it looks reasonable enough. He's using an alias to help blend in.

[LiadansWhisper]

There's no rush for me to get this started, so I'm more than willing to wait for you! It'll give me more time to level and get some decent looking armour to better hide my character's face.

 

*pokes incessantly*

 

Ouch!

 

You might see me around, though. I did a bit of role-play not too long ago in the Black Shroud with my partner since he wanted to meet Caesius. I just threw on the generic starting gear since it looks reasonable enough. He's using an alias to help blend in.

 

I always miss you.

 

*more incessant poking*

 

:angel:

[Daca'li Molkoh]

This looks like a fantastic idea. Ever since I started playing the game, I was always enthralled with the idea of the Garlean Empire and -really- wanted to be among them. This could be due to the fact that I love playing the bad guy; it can be heaps of fun and can provide some really interesting interactions and scenarios.

 

That being said, I have a character I'm currently leveling, but I have no background for him just yet. I could easily (after checking what facts I have on the Garlean Empire) create a back story that is compatible with him being a Garlean soldier. I'll throw you a tell if I manage to catch you online. I'd love to talk just to make sure I have everything straight before setting a character in stone. I'm still new to this Final Fantasy and most of my knowledge comes from what I've read.

[ArmachiA]

I've got Isera rolled and am working on getting her to 15. I'll try to hit ya up in game at some point :3

[K'nahli]

If no-one minds by the way, could any possible garlean/story-related spoilers be kept in the appropriate tags? I, among others I am sure, have yet to complete the main storyline ^^" I only ask should people have an idea that involves content that hasn't been experienced by the rest of us and decides to share it here.

[LiadansWhisper]

If no-one minds by the way, could any possible garlean/story-related spoilers be kept in the appropriate tags? I, among others I am sure, have yet to complete the main storyline ^^" I only ask should people have an idea that involves content that hasn't been experienced by the rest of us and decides to share it here.

 

I've been trying really hard to do that.  If I missed anything, I'm sorry!  Just point it out and I'll spoiler tag it!

[K'nahli]

Nono, I wasn't referencing anything at all. It just occurred to me and I wanted to ask ahead of time just in case ^^

[Dravus]

I'm suffering from a bit of internet trouble at the moment so if I disconnect randomly whilst people are trying to get in touch with me please don't take it personally! I'm online fairly often, though, so you might need to search through the characters listed in my signature to see which I'm on at the time.

[Sophia_Grave]

Hello!

 

I hope this isn't considered resurrecting an old thread, but like the OP, I found the Empire very interesting after I finished up the main storyline. So much, in fact, I've decided to make a Garlean Spy as my first RP-centric character. 

 

There wouldn't happen to be any Garlean/Garlean sympathizing FC/LSs on Balmung, would there?

[LandStander]

Hello!

 

I hope this isn't considered resurrecting an old thread, but like the OP, I found the Empire very interesting after I finished up the main storyline. So much, in fact, I've decided to make a Garlean Spy as my first RP-centric character. 

 

There wouldn't happen to be any Garlean/Garlean sympathizing FC/LSs on Balmung, would there?

There is! What is your name and I'll send you an invite ^^. Its a bit small at the moment with something like 10 members, but we would love to have more people

 

Edit: Send it to me in a message so you don't blow your cover *wink wink*. I'll send you an invite before I run off to school.