E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2015 Well, to get straight to the point. I may or may not have finally overcome my denial and yes I really want to play an Au ra. However I didn't want to just make an alt, y'know? I don't want to make another character. I have two as it is and I juggle them okay, but a third would probably be impossible. So I'm changing up some not-so-established-in-RP things for one of them (which had a lot of holes anyway) and had some questions. So that aside here are my questions (some of which were actually answered via tumblrs but I will still put them out there in the event you have additional information). 1.) The "likelihood" of Hyur as an Ishgardian? (I was informed that there are hyur that are born in Ishgard and that they are in good standing with the Elezen there, that some even hold positions of power and all are generally very well respected.) I ask about this in regards to Midlander Hyur Male. 2.) How likely is it for him to be of relatively higher social status there, mostly due to respect and such for his actions int he field? (I never really looked into making his pedigree so I'm not sure how nobility or anything works in Ishgard.) 3.) Somewhat related to #2: I know most of the stuff out here is Dragoon related. If he does have a high respect because of his actions in battle, is it better story-wise if he was a Dragoon, or can he remain a War/Pld? 4.) Because of Ishgards hatred for Dravanian/Dragons/whatever the proper term is here, it's highly likely that if this Hyur loved and married an Au Ri that Isghard would be like aw hell no and stuff, right? (I'm aware there isn't much lore for Au Ra yet so I am treading lightly on this and not really setting any of this stuff in stone until I can hopefully get more info). 5.) The idea was that this characters mother (Who I've never RPed in the picture much as it is) was hauled off after her relationship with this Hyur was known. The fact there was offspring wasn't known, so the Father fled to Limsa with the child. (Remarrying and such early on in the child's life, leaving her with the history I've already written out on her wiki). SO, with this knowledge, I wondered if Fantasia-ing is a legit RP thing in most circles (I have seen it RPed, but mostly in smaller friend circles. But, basically, this would be a thing in all circles I RP her in so...) The idea with that was that she was Fantasia'd as a baby for her own safety. To be honest I have no explanation as to why she'd be fantasia'd into a Miqo'te and not a Hyur (her original history/story is that she is half hyur, half sunseeker) beyond "oops that didn't go totally as planned". I uh... I think I'm rambling slightly. I hope this is good for questions, please point out if anything is amiss. As I said, I'm not totally setting the Au Ri related stuff in stone till I have a little more info, but I've been told I'm at least on the right track (though I can't imagine interbreeding with an Au ri is really 'lore shattering'). I thought this might be a good idea too since I'm not familiar with a lot of things in the northern area of Eorzea or it's lore. So if this character ends up tracing her roots and somehow breaks the fantasia she's had thus far in life or whatever, that her learning experience can also double as my own. Link to comment
SessionZero Posted March 11, 2015 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2015 1.) The "likelihood" of Hyur as an Ishgardian? (I was informed that there are hyur that are born in Ishgard and that they are in good standing with the Elezen there, that some even hold positions of power and all are generally very well respected.) I ask about this in regards to Midlander Hyur Male. Hyuran Ishgardians exist, though I would imagine ones held in high esteem or "highborn" would be very rare as Ishgard was and is still a steadfastly Elezen city-state to this day. 2.) How likely is it for him to be of relatively higher social status there, mostly due to respect and such for his actions int he field? (I never really looked into making his pedigree so I'm not sure how nobility or anything works in Ishgard.) Heroic actions can lead to an elevated status in life (this is hinted at in the MSQ) but the fact remains that the High Houses and many of the highborn in the city seem to be almost exclusively Elezen. A Hyur is likely faced with an unbreakable glass ceiling in life as an Ishgardian. 3.) Somewhat related to #2: I know most of the stuff out here is Dragoon related. If he does have a high respect because of his actions in battle, is it better story-wise if he was a Dragoon, or can he remain a War/Pld? The title of "Dragoon" is awarded to soldiers who have a confirmed kill of a dragon, which is usually those who have trained in the lancer arts and are able to use Jump techniques. A WAR/PLD can technically be a "Dragoon" but it is in title only. 4.) Because of Ishgards hatred for Dravanian/Dragons/whatever the proper term is here, it's highly likely that if this Hyur loved and married an Au Ri that Isghard would be like aw hell no and stuff, right? (I'm aware there isn't much lore for Au Ra yet so I am treading lightly on this and not really setting any of this stuff in stone until I can hopefully get more info). Generally speaking, an Ishgardian laying with a non-Ishgardian of any race is considered taboo. I can't see why an Au Ra would be any worse or better, depending on exactly how draconic their heritage is. 5.) The idea was that this characters mother (Who I've never RPed in the picture much as it is) was hauled off after her relationship with this Hyur was known. The fact there was offspring wasn't known, so the Father fled to Limsa with the child. (Remarrying and such early on in the child's life, leaving her with the history I've already written out on her wiki). SO, with this knowledge, I wondered if Fantasia-ing is a legit RP thing in most circles (I have seen it RPed, but mostly in smaller friend circles. But, basically, this would be a thing in all circles I RP her in so...) This is a major point of contention for most people. Some don't mind IC Fantasia, some loathe the idea, and some (like me) are generally ambivalent provided the reasoning and handling of it is sound. It all boils down to whether or not the people you will be RPing with most of the time can stomach it. The idea with that was that she was Fantasia'd as a baby for her own safety. To be honest I have no explanation as to why she'd be fantasia'd into a Miqo'te and not a Hyur (her original history/story is that she is half hyur, half sunseeker) beyond "oops that didn't go totally as planned". I... can't say I'd ever want to claim someone being Fantasia'd as a baby, because that seems terribly irresponsible and neglectful, but again, it's up to you and the people you RP with. Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted March 11, 2015 Thank you. I'm also willing/open to any suggestions you guys might have to make this story a little better. I'd be lying if I said I had the first clue about anything I'm doing. D: The fantasia thing I'm still iffy on (though while her Father is a good soldier, I would not put something like this in terms of being irresponsible past him), truthfully, but I honestly can't think of/don't know of any other reasons she'd have been a Miqo'te all this time and suddenly an Au Ri. I don't really want to go a typical route of "Oops I drank a thing, oh well guess I'm stuck now" (Nothing wrong with that, but I admit I like a little flair and junk.) Link to comment
SessionZero Posted March 11, 2015 Share #4 Posted March 11, 2015 Most people that are wanting to play Au Ra IC have been going the route of being glamoured so as not to stand out too much in Eorzea. You could go that route, since I believe the Dravanians learned glamours from the Ishgardians, so her father glamoured her as a baby to spare her the social stigma. Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted March 11, 2015 That was originally my first though, that maybe she'd been glamoured at a young age. But someone on tumblr was telling me that they were fairly impermanent and that keeping the glamour up repeatedly might be a difficult thing to do? Link to comment
SessionZero Posted March 11, 2015 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2015 It might be difficult to do so 24/7 but you could have him only glamour her when she goes outside as she's growing up or something. Or you can just say she's glamoured permanently until she's not because fuck you, that's why. That's the beauty of RP Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted March 11, 2015 Lmao, yes good. I've been tempted to go the "fuck you route" because the whole idea behind this was that she wouldn't have known she was an Au Ra. It'd be "safer" for her not to with all the stigma they seem to have. So her knowingly needing to glamour herself all this time would kind of kill that. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted March 11, 2015 Share #8 Posted March 11, 2015 You have some interesting ideas here but I would hold off on doing anything more than brainstorming until we get the lore as we might get something that makes the whole thing much easier to work out. Edit: Much crazier shit gets pulled in RP, I think a lore bendy permanent glamour shouldnt be a big deal. Just RP it now and figure out the exact historical details when we get well... any AuRa lore. Edit edit: I am changing Rakka'li to a new AuRa girl character so I totally sympathize with having a ton of ideas and sitting on them anxiously. Link to comment
Dravus Posted March 11, 2015 Share #9 Posted March 11, 2015 'Fantasia' seems to be becoming an alarming common cop out in this community. You're free to do whatever you want, of course, especially since you seem to be aware that it isn't everybody's cup of tea. I would suggest taking some time to reconsider your options though. Why not wait until we have some solid lore on the Au Ra and then build a character around that? Heck, taking your time and avoiding the initial rush in favour of a more distinct and lore friendly character may end up being much more beneficial than trying to justify various plot devices that some role-players will see as being very forced. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted March 11, 2015 Share #10 Posted March 11, 2015 And if he is glamoured and has no idea he is an AuRa at all that would make the problem of not addressing thier exact history easier to manage. Some will roll eyes at you but who cares? Link to comment
Dravus Posted March 11, 2015 Share #11 Posted March 11, 2015 And if he is glamoured and has no idea he is an AuRa at all that would make the problem of not addressing thier exact history easier to manage. Some will roll eyes at you but who cares? Are there any established cases of that actually happening in-game though? It feels like a difficult pill to swallow - that someone would have a convenient permanent illusion cast upon them to the point where they aren't aware that they're a completely different race to what they thought they were. It's also - like I stated earlier - a cop out. We don't know a whole lot about the Au Ra yet and patience is a virtue. We don't have more than a few months to wait until we get a whole lot of information about them. I do wish more people restrained themselves and waited until closer to the time. Still, each to their own! I just hope it's all balanced out by Au Ra who are actually Au Ra and weren't just conveniently race changed IC to be relevant to the current content. With so little racial lore in this game compared to the likes of WoW and ESO it just rubs me the wrong way that so many role-players choose to go down that route. It's a bit of a kick in the teeth to those of us who stick with one character without having them guzzle down Fantasia every five minutes. Link to comment
Warren Castille Posted March 11, 2015 Share #12 Posted March 11, 2015 This isn't the thread for it, but if it was so simple to glamour someone to not look like an Au Ra, why on earth is whatsherface hiding under a way-obvious purple ski mask? 1 Link to comment
Dravus Posted March 11, 2015 Share #13 Posted March 11, 2015 This isn't the thread for it, but if it was so simple to glamour someone to not look like an Au Ra, why on earth is whatsherface hiding under a way-obvious purple ski mask? Mm. I'm perfectly fine with temporary illusions. It makes a lot of sense and we've seen them in action in-game. A permanent illusion, however, makes things much more likely to break someone's immersion. How did they keep up such a feat, especially without knowing about it? What's the actual drawback of such a thing to prevent it being mass produced and embraced by military organisations or those with a lot of wealth and resources at their disposal? They're the sort of questions that need to be asked, I feel. Again, nothing can be forced on someone else but it's a lot more likely that in-depth role-play will be found if someone's character is well thought out and consistent. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted March 11, 2015 Share #14 Posted March 11, 2015 And if he is glamoured and has no idea he is an AuRa at all that would make the problem of not addressing thier exact history easier to manage. Some will roll eyes at you but who cares? Are there any established cases of that actually happening in-game though? It feels like a difficult pill to swallow - that someone would have a convenient permanent illusion cast upon them to the point where they aren't aware that they're a completely different race to what they thought they were. It's also - like I stated earlier - a cop out. We don't know a whole lot about the Au Ra yet and patience is a virtue. We don't have more than a few months to wait until we get a whole lot of information about them. I do wish more people restrained themselves and waited until closer to the time. I agree with you on every count but compared to many other things I've put up with in RP here it's a much easier to swallow pill. Additionally I've always held the view that if interesting RP can be had by pushing things then you should by all means push. In this case an AuRa that is ignorant of thier culture and eager to learn, as long as effort is made to fit things as best as one can and the reasoning behind doing it is a good one - that is it's done for the RP it will provoke with others and not because you simply want your character to be "cooler" than everyone elses - then I am open to it. 1 Link to comment
allgivenover Posted March 11, 2015 Share #15 Posted March 11, 2015 This isn't the thread for it, but if it was so simple to glamour someone to not look like an Au Ra, why on earth is whatsherface hiding under a way-obvious purple ski mask? Well Yugiri just obviously doesn't know about it. I know it's a stretch. But like I said, there is way way worse things being RPd way less delicately. Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted March 11, 2015 I'd like to state again that absolutely all of this is nothing but brainstorming. I haven't RPed any of this at all, nor brought it up to anyone before posting it here on the RPC. (That being said, also, my reply is not intended to be angry or rude, just explaining!) I do agree, I feel like a lot of people use fantasia "accidents" as a sort of cop out to race change, but I'd also like to point out that there aren't very many options available to roleplayers, lore wise, that don't already bend a lot of rules or use unestablished ideas if someone does want to change their character. On that same coin, too, I don't feel like I should be forced to play an alt in RP just because the game updates. Some examples of the above include, like I said, fantasia. But I also remember that when 2.0 was launched and a lot of new options available (female highlanders, female roes, male miqotes) that a lot of people used the story of "Well when my character was taken through the time warp, some shit went wrong and now they're this thing instead" It's never been established in lore and to some people that may have felt like a cheesy option to go with, but they're limited in their options. I think it would suck if someone has to force themselves to stay something they're not interested in anymore (and don't have fun with) just because of the peer pressure. So I think it's sort of a delicate balancing issue. So far for Au Ra, I have held a discussion about this on tumblr: Rpers have mentioned using glamours to hide their race because of the racism and stigma Eorzean society has against them, and they will reveal themselves come 3.0. I've also heard stories with something about being possessed by a dravanian/dragon soul or something. There were a lot of ideas. (thankfully nobody's popped in with "I'm Shiva's baby" so y'know that's always a plus.) Also Warren you posted like as I hit reply so: I can see your point, but I also say that maybe she has her own reasons? I dunno. Glamouring seems relatively easy for people though, given how many times it happens during the storyline and junk. So i'd imagine Au Ra or any other race would have just as easy a time. As it stands, I'm happy to get ideas from people and suggestions, but I'm not going to change the fact that I want Ophelia to be the one to be an Au Ra, and I don't think it is appropriate at this time to just retcon that she's been a Miqo'te all this time and expect people to suddenly be "oh okay." It isn't really fair to other RPers. Maybe some of the friends she's made don't like Au Ri or dragons or anything like that, which would mean their reaction to her would have been entirely different. So yeah I know some of this is a stretch, that's why I'm here. Link to comment
Warren Castille Posted March 11, 2015 Share #17 Posted March 11, 2015 So far for Au Ra, I have held a discussion about this on tumblr: Rpers have mentioned using glamours to hide their race because of the racism and stigma Eorzean society has against them, and they will reveal themselves come 3.0. I've also heard stories with something about being possessed by a dravanian/dragon soul or something. There were a lot of ideas. (thankfully nobody's popped in with "I'm Shiva's baby" so y'know that's always a plus.) Also Warren you posted like as I hit reply so: I can see your point, but I also say that maybe she has her own reasons? I dunno. Glamouring seems relatively easy for people though, given how many times it happens during the storyline and junk. So i'd imagine Au Ra or any other race would have just as easy a time. I want to expand on this because in my heart, I am a metagaming powergaming tabletop story destroyer. I'm going to spin a lot of hypothetical here so I should be easy to dismiss. To my knowledge, the only people we see under sustained glamour is the enemy during the Coerthas arc who "turns" into a dragon and, by proxy, the heretics in Stone Vigil who also transform into aevis. The only other forms of glamour that I can think of comes from levequests, where you are tasked with using powder on disguised enemies, and during the Hildibrand story. I'm not sure if they ever overtly call that glamour, though, and just allude to the culprit being a master of disguise. Anyway, here's where it gets questionable for me: Similar to fantasia being use to change race involuntarily, glamour becomes immensely horrifying as it becomes freely available. If it is as easy to come across as you'd think, there's no doubt that anyone of importance would have been long, long assassinated by spies posing as well-meaning friends. A fake Raubahn to kill the Sultana, a fake Sultana to kill Raubahn, any Maelstrom leaders to off Merlwyb, etcetera. As soon as glamour becomes freely available to so many hidden people, the Garleans win, plain and simple, the war is over years ago. The MSQ already revealed there are spies in high places. My issue with so many advocating the idea of "I've always been X, I just illusioned myself into being Y" is that it's just... well, cheap. What happens to the horns? Is it just illusion, like the kind used by imps during leves? Has your character ever been in a fight? Imp glamour immediately dispels when disrupted physically. Maybe your glamour is actual metamorphoses then? Okay... What's the point of fantasia again, if we have sustainable magic able to change your body? Is it only temporary? If so, it's awfully convenient to only have it wear off when in private. I know it sounds like I'm just frowning on this, but that's because I am I do have a small idea. The base character you're wanting to change, you mentioned they only have been used in small circles? Consider just plain retconning him, then. That's what lots of people did for 1.0>2.0 and it worked mostly because of the real world time gap. If the only folks you've roleplayed with are cool with it, it's a lot easier to say they are and have always been an Au Ra then it is to suddenly change and backpedal to explain it. If that's not an option... Have you considered just changing the base character anyway and then turning that identity into an NPC? Again, if it's a small circle it might not be unbearable. Relegate them to skype sessions or something. I mean, ultimately it's up to you, but I hate to see such a flimsy justification get used when you're strongly attached and set upon only having a few characters. A strong foundation is important for longstays, and this isn't one in my opinion. 1 Link to comment
allgivenover Posted March 11, 2015 Share #18 Posted March 11, 2015 You can get around that by having the origin of the glamour a mystery for now, with the intent of it never being reproducable by current magitek. Not hard for me to swallow at all given the absolutley crazy magitek feats the Allagans demonstrate in second and final coil. Makes it more difficult to work with in open RP, but I think it could be done positively. Sorry if I'm derailing your thread with specific details Fai. Link to comment
Aya Posted March 11, 2015 Share #19 Posted March 11, 2015 Honestly, if it involves having to twist and turn to try to justify, cover, and make right, it probably is not worth doing. What's the purpose of the convoluted, perhaps hard-to-swallow story in the end? If you're really inspired by the idea of an Ishgardian blooded Au Ra there may be a way to do it, but I just feel like the current idea is too much. Do you really want to explain this to everyone who asks where your character is from? The power in a backstory is not in how unlikely and unusual it is, but in how it allows us to relate to a character and understand from whence they came in a way that helps further immerse us in and enrich the world in which we RP. I'm also with Warren in that Fantasia and Glamours, if they exist at all ICly, should be underplayed because their effects are inherently immersion breaking (I know I've made this point before, and really I will do my best to accommodate people who really want to RP something, but its unfortunate when it has to come at the expense of my own immersion). Lastly, I know people are excited about Au Ra, and I am all for brainstorming, but we honestly have no idea who they are, or where they come from yet. It really feels too early to me. 1 Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted March 11, 2015 @ Rakka: You're fine, it's all good. It's honestly why I came here asking questions, because I know glamours and Fantasia aren't very "Good" options in this instance, but at the same rate, they're kind of the only methods available? And no, she hasn't been used in just small circles is what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear. She's been used pretty extensively up until the last month or so at least, in open RP. Not just with friends. Besides, to retcon her entirety just feels weird to me, too. If she's been an Au Ra, which noone in society seems to think is okay, how do I possibly explain how she's been treated so well by others up until now? So no, I don't want to (nor can I) retcon her entire history to change her race. On the subject of glamour, maybe it isn't so easy to come by or do. Maybe it took a lot of string pulling or something for her father to get someone to pull this off? I suppose I used the wrong words in my last post. It might not be entirely easy to come by, but once you do have it available, it would be easy to use. Maybe that's why Yugiri doesn't have a glamour? She has no access to it. Or maybe she is still proud of her race/dignity/etc. My goal for this is to make the story I posted in my OP work, but work relatively logically and not like.. cheap/boring. I posted my questions because I'm looking for assistance in brainstorming ideas. Link to comment
Verad Posted March 11, 2015 Share #21 Posted March 11, 2015 1.) The "likelihood" of Hyur as an Ishgardian? (I was informed that there are hyur that are born in Ishgard and that they are in good standing with the Elezen there, that some even hold positions of power and all are generally very well respected.) I ask about this in regards to Midlander Hyur Male. 2.) How likely is it for him to be of relatively higher social status there, mostly due to respect and such for his actions int he field? (I never really looked into making his pedigree so I'm not sure how nobility or anything works in Ishgard.) 3.) Somewhat related to #2: I know most of the stuff out here is Dragoon related. If he does have a high respect because of his actions in battle, is it better story-wise if he was a Dragoon, or can he remain a War/Pld? 4.) Because of Ishgards hatred for Dravanian/Dragons/whatever the proper term is here, it's highly likely that if this Hyur loved and married an Au Ri that Isghard would be like aw hell no and stuff, right? (I'm aware there isn't much lore for Au Ra yet so I am treading lightly on this and not really setting any of this stuff in stone until I can hopefully get more info). 5.) The idea was that this characters mother (Who I've never RPed in the picture much as it is) was hauled off after her relationship with this Hyur was known. The fact there was offspring wasn't known, so the Father fled to Limsa with the child. (Remarrying and such early on in the child's life, leaving her with the history I've already written out on her wiki). SO, with this knowledge, I wondered if Fantasia-ing is a legit RP thing in most circles (I have seen it RPed, but mostly in smaller friend circles. But, basically, this would be a thing in all circles I RP her in so...) The idea with that was that she was Fantasia'd as a baby for her own safety. To be honest I have no explanation as to why she'd be fantasia'd into a Miqo'te and not a Hyur (her original history/story is that she is half hyur, half sunseeker) beyond "oops that didn't go totally as planned". 1. 35% likely 2. 10% likely 3. Yes. 4. Choose whatever has the potential to make the character more miserable. 5. Yes, people tend to RP Fantasia-induced character changes. Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted March 11, 2015 Share #22 Posted March 11, 2015 So far for Au Ra, I have held a discussion about this on tumblr: Rpers have mentioned using glamours to hide their race because of the racism and stigma Eorzean society has against them, and they will reveal themselves come 3.0. I've also heard stories with something about being possessed by a dravanian/dragon soul or something. There were a lot of ideas. (thankfully nobody's popped in with "I'm Shiva's baby" so y'know that's always a plus.) Also Warren you posted like as I hit reply so: I can see your point, but I also say that maybe she has her own reasons? I dunno. Glamouring seems relatively easy for people though, given how many times it happens during the storyline and junk. So i'd imagine Au Ra or any other race would have just as easy a time. I want to expand on this because in my heart, I am a metagaming powergaming tabletop story destroyer. I'm going to spin a lot of hypothetical here so I should be easy to dismiss. To my knowledge, the only people we see under sustained glamour is the enemy during the Coerthas arc who "turns" into a dragon and, by proxy, the heretics in Stone Vigil who also transform into aevis. The only other forms of glamour that I can think of comes from levequests, where you are tasked with using powder on disguised enemies, and during the Hildibrand story. I'm not sure if they ever overtly call that glamour, though, and just allude to the culprit being a master of disguise. Anyway, here's where it gets questionable for me: Similar to fantasia being use to change race involuntarily, glamour becomes immensely horrifying as it becomes freely available. If it is as easy to come across as you'd think, there's no doubt that anyone of importance would have been long, long assassinated by spies posing as well-meaning friends. A fake Raubahn to kill the Sultana, a fake Sultana to kill Raubahn, any Maelstrom leaders to off Merlwyb, etcetera. As soon as glamour becomes freely available to so many hidden people, the Garleans win, plain and simple, the war is over years ago. The MSQ already revealed there are spies in high places. My issue with so many advocating the idea of "I've always been X, I just illusioned myself into being Y" is that it's just... well, cheap. What happens to the horns? Is it just illusion, like the kind used by imps during leves? Has your character ever been in a fight? Imp glamour immediately dispels when disrupted physically. Maybe your glamour is actual metamorphoses then? Okay... What's the point of fantasia again, if we have sustainable magic able to change your body? Is it only temporary? If so, it's awfully convenient to only have it wear off when in private. I know it sounds like I'm just frowning on this, but that's because I am I do have a small idea. The base character you're wanting to change, you mentioned they only have been used in small circles? Consider just plain retconning him, then. That's what lots of people did for 1.0>2.0 and it worked mostly because of the real world time gap. If the only folks you've roleplayed with are cool with it, it's a lot easier to say they are and have always been an Au Ra then it is to suddenly change and backpedal to explain it. If that's not an option... Have you considered just changing the base character anyway and then turning that identity into an NPC? Again, if it's a small circle it might not be unbearable. Relegate them to skype sessions or something. I mean, ultimately it's up to you, but I hate to see such a flimsy justification get used when you're strongly attached and set upon only having a few characters. A strong foundation is important for longstays, and this isn't one in my opinion. I "echo" (see what I did there?) Warren's concerns. I don't want to be a wet blanket, but if I'm being honest, all the announced Au Ra "accidental glamours" I've been hearing from players makes me cringe a bit. I'm going to log in one day in June and POP..... there were 100+ Auri all hiding in Ul'dah and no one noticed and they all decided to come out all at once.... ugh. If I had the strong want to change my main, and I understand that feeling, I would honestly kill him. I get wanting to play the fun new thing but NOT wanting to undo or start over with all your character has achieved and unlocked. The best course I would think is buy a fantasia, a name change, and run an epic story between now and 3.0 where your character sacrifices themselves for friends/GC/FC/the world and let them go with honor and dignity. Then go to a quiet place, change your character and start over rp wise with friends who already know you and will help you along. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #23 Posted March 11, 2015 thank you for everyone's input, i think i have the answers i needed now. Not the ones i was hoping for, but I guess the ones that I needed. I admit, I feel kind of stupid at this point because with all of this, in hindsight, it seems like a stupid idea. I don't want to kill off ophelia, but i don't want to make a new Rp character (i don't care about the game unlocks or achievements, i have no issue levelling a new character). I just don't want a new RP character and for whatever reason had a strong desire to make Ophelia the au ra, but, I don't think I want to anymore. Link to comment
Aya Posted March 11, 2015 Share #24 Posted March 11, 2015 There's nothing stupid about any of it! Its creative, and its interesting to toss about ideas! Are you feeling that Ophelia is growing stale? Are there any avenues in her story that might be interesting to take? Anything from her past to revisit? There are always opportunities for alts and the like as well, some people like to have such a change in pace periodically to keep their interest Or is it just that Au Ra are that interesting to you? In which case maybe its worth making an Au Ra alt for a time when the expansion comes? No need to abandon or kill off Ophelia to do so! Link to comment
E'irawen Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted March 11, 2015 @Aya It's both. Ophelia has become very stale to RP, because to me she feels.. flat? I'm not sure the right word for it. And her history has always been lacking and frankly, nonexistant. The story I came up with was an attempt to add history to her while giving her a story to explore that's actually interesting, while hopefully (and apparently very unsuccessfully) explaining a logical transformation into an Au Ra that wasn't people going "Whoopsy potions" I want to keep Ophelia's personality, her talents and everything, and her teahouse. And it feels very cheap to me to make an Au Ra alt that is literally just Ophelia anyway, including a teahouse that I really love to have, and just get rid of the original Ophelia. Link to comment
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