Tseren

Tseren Qerel can be added to the Auri list. Thanks!

My wife and I went to do Dusk Vigil. She was tanking, and it was her first time through. We hadn't even gotten to the second trash pack when the healer was calling her a pussy because she wasn't pulling multi-packs. My first instinct was to kick right then and there, but I figured we could just stay out of chat and just get things done. Nope! At the first boss, the healer ran and in pulled before all the group was inside. No one was ready. She decided that if he wanted it that bad, he could have it. While he ran around trying to kite it, he kept calling calling her a pussy, said that he had waited five seconds and then decided to pull because she wasn't pulling fast enough, and generally spewed a bunch of petty stuff. Once he died and we dropped combat, we kicked him from the party...only for him to come promptly back and start the insults right back up again. We ended up leaving, re-queuing, and ran it again smooth and simple. It left a pretty bad taste in our mouths and kinda de-railed our night, though. She doesn't know if she wants to keep on tanking because it was such a miserable experience.

Tseren would be a Moscow Mule.

At this point, I think the thread ought to be closed. The RPC is clearly incapable of having a conversation about LGBT players or characters, as shown in the constant derailment.

Is it really a strawman if you, the original poster, just won't admit that it's what you implied? It may not have been your intention, but that's very much how it came off. Now if you must know why I tend to make my LGBT friendliness open (though I do not have it mentioned in my player search as there just isn't enough room), there are two reasons: 1. So people dealing with similar issues can feel safe knowing that I will neither judge them or their characters for sexual orientation or gender identity. 2. Because I get tired of having a number of male characters making not-so-vague attempts at straightening Vetiver or Foxglove's gay away when they will never, ever have a chance to begin with. It's a waste of my time and frankly demeaning, especially when I am actively seeking RP partners willing to provide companionship on a number of levels. So yes, just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it isn't to me or someone else. Speak for yourself and not others, yes? I'm sorry, but I want to make sure I'm reading this right... Did he just call me a strawman for not agreeing with him? He's implying that your argument is a strawman fallacy. Basically that the points you had made didn't make sense or weren't logical conclusions. It's a poor attempt to dismiss you. Edit: Annd, thanks for the heads up Vachir. Sounds like just the sort of person I never want to meet.

[align=center] [/align] Tseren Qerel. She's a rough-and-tumble machinist who's fascinated with flying and dreams of crewing her own airship. But first, she has to pay her debt to Tsaivar Khar, the Dark Knight and former tribesmate who bought her ticket to Eorzea. When she isn't running errands, polishing his armor, caring for his mounts and generally playing over-worked squire, she's taking everything she can get her hands on apart, and not necessarily putting them back together successfully. Though she'd insist that she's merely improving the existing design.

My character binds her chest. I spend a lot of time ear marking gear that helps minimize the appearance of a bust. I've also spent a lot of time figuring out how to convey that into RP without broadcasting. In my experience, binding can really hurt - even when done properly. They pull at the shoulders, can change the way you need breathe, make sitting or slouching uncomfortable, and on really bad days, eating can be difficult. So I convey some of this though subtle descriptions on how she breathes and sits, or rubs at sore shoulders, or adjusts a cutting-into-skin strap beneath her outer wear, ect. I didn't want her using cloth strips because of just how damaging that is. (Blood clots, rib cage deformity, ect.) I figured she had commisiooned some tightly fitting compression-styled vests to wear underneath her armor. It's not a focal point in my writing. I'm not always drawing attention to it or brining it up in repititive actions. But, every once in a while, I'll pepper in an allusion to it.

We're not asking for a movement. We're not even asking for support. We're just asking *eachother* if we would like to be part of a LGBT chat in game. And look at all the crazy that's come out of it because it's apparently such a controversial topic to seek out fellowship with eachother.

If you're nervous about tanking (and I totally understand why you would be), you could always try to put together a group of friends to go with you over a standard pug. It helps when you're running with people who know you're learning, trying your best, and are willing to forgive mistakes. They may tease you along the way, but that's all in good fun, and can be a good bonding experience beside. You could also consider seeking out a tanking mentor. Someone who knows the fights, has an eye for pulling and positioning and is willing to run along with you and teach you. I'm sure someone here on the RPC would be willing to help if you don't have someone in mind already. I get nervous about new dungeons and raids too. I never want to the be that one dumb DPS who fails understand the mechanic or dies to a telegraphed move they should have seen coming. I play super serious when I first step into new territory, and stress myself out. It takes a few runs before I relax. Once I know what to expect and what to do, I can actually enjoy it. You may find yourself being able to relax once you get used to things too. In the mean time, don't be so hard on yourself and don't push yourself so much. :3

It's not about interacting with the community at large. It's about the opportunity to interact with the community we're already part of. I don't think anyone is expecting conflict with or trouble from others. While I think one person mentioned having had an issue in the past, the vast majority spoke of nothing but positive in-game experiences. And that's fantastic to hear! Especially as my wife and I have both had some rough experiences in other gaming communities. It's just another reason as to why I'm so excited to be a part of this one. What it is about, however, is OOC conversation and support as well as a way to find RP connections. Just like the very first post said. It's really not that much different from creating a LS for an Au Ra tribe, or scoundrel type characters, or any other of the LS's available. It's simply a way to help members of a particular niche to find friends who have a similar background.

Well what do you expect? The LGB parts of LGBT are focused on sexual attraction. It's only natural that it ends up a focus for these characters. The opportunity to write with characters who might share a comon experience that my character has. Sexual attraction may be part of the LGBT alphabet, but it's not the only way we relate to one another. Especially if you, or your character, is under one of the other letters. It's also often nice to play with someone who's player (and possibly character) understands your characters gender identity, challenges and direction. It's entirely possible to find, as I've done it through other formats plenty of times.

It's not about being special, different, or set apart from someone else. Most of the LGBT community is forced to rely on straight and cisgendered people and allies for government assistance, medical services, therapy, education on LGBT issues and general support. Many of us don’t have access to other LGBT; we can’t talk to people going through the same things or get resources created by our own members. Many LGBT people don’t really want to rely on people who will never go through their experiences telling them how to deal with it, but we're often required to do so for our mental, physical and emotional health needs. This whole experience creates a sense of dependence that makes LGBT people feel awful; we are capable of standing on our own, we can support our own community. Which doesn’t mean that ally support is not meaningful or welcomed, but just does not replace the need for for intra-community support. The experiences of the LGBT community are unique – there is no comparable experience to a trans person who is transitioning, for example. While you may sympathize with and support someone who is transitioning, can you really understand what it's like to be dysphoric if you've always been secure with your gender identity? Or what it's like when you're misgendered? Or called by your deadname? Or when you're constantly outed by people in your life, to where complete strangers know who you are and what you are before you even the room? Or when members of your family such as your parents or former spouse are teaching your children about gender in ways that invalidates and marginalizes your entire existence? While there are many similar things that people go through, LGBT people often feel best supported by connecting to others who have gone through the same things. Allies and cishet people don’t know these experiences; they can’t support LGBT people the same way that other LGBT people can. And that’s okay! Pride and LGBT events are very important. Why? Because there's a lot more problems out there than the lack of same sex marriage and viability is really important. Here are few (mostly American based) reasons: - In 32 states you can still be fired or denied employment based on your gender identity. - 29 states don't have any kind of LGBT non-discriminatory laws at all, which means you can be fired based on your sexuality as well. - The same goes for public accommodation (renting or buying a place to live). - Sexual orientation and gender identity aren't protected under hate crimes in 20 states. - Sexually active gay men can't donate blood. - 82% of queer youth reported being verbally harassed because of their identity, and 38% reported being physically attacked. - Sexual health education doesn't address LGBT sexual heath. We're not taught how to take care of our bodies. For example, lesbians are ten times less likely to get a routine Pap test, because they don't think they can get HPV, but at the same time, four out of five lesbians (including those who have been man-free their whole lives) have it. - LGBT people are often provided inadequate health coverage and often have to fight with their insurance companies (if they have insurance) for their medical care. - 40% of homeless youth identify as LGBT, 54% reported being survivors of abuse from their families. - 14 trans people have been murdered this year - that's more than two a month. - In the first four months of 2014 there were 102 acts of violence against transgender people worldwide. While several of them were minors, the youngest was an 8 year old who was beaten to death by his father for trying on his mothers clothes. - Nearly every two days a person is killed somewhere in the world for expressing gender nonconformity. These are the things that are often discussed and campaigned for/against at Pride, events and community spaces. This are what LGBT legislative groups get signatures and active volunteers for at LGBT Pride events. These are where and how members of the LGBT community are educated about their rights and the active, local campaigns that are fighting for them. These spaces are where we learn to navigate the medical mazes, insurance and legal systems that often fail to cover us properly. Yes, they're also a celeberation of who we are. It's a way to show us that being LGBT is beautiful, empowering and just plain ok in a world that so often tells us otherwise. TLDR: It's ok for LGBT people to want to reach out to other LGBT people. There's a lot to be gained from supporting one another. This doesn't mean we don't love our allies or distrust the general population. This doesn't mean we're trying to stand apart. There's no point in "looking equal" when we still have so many legislative, medical, social, mental health, education, employment, family, and public safety needs ect. in which we are being treated unequally.

While I've found it easy to locate LGBT characters, I've found it difficult to find ones who weren't primarily focused on romantic or sexytime plots. But that's kind of the curse of cold calling people you haven't interacted with solely based on their search tags.

Same, nothing wrong with an LGBT linkshell, but all you'll be doing is cloistering yourself. ...and my Tia is gay too <_< >_> Maybe the Nunh is just the only straight one. "Whoever pulls the short straw has to have sex with all these ladies." I don't know. It's not like being in a specific linkshell means you're cutting off all contact to the outside world! It can just be a more convenient place to find people you want to find, or to just.. let loose for a little while. On another note I should be meeting these Tias, or a Xaela please. My thoughts exactly. Having one out of your eight linkshell slots set aside for a specific interest group is hardly seperating yourself, or that group, off from the rest of the community. Nor is it creating a 'Me vs. Them' mentality. If this was a group for Ishgardian character OOC, Au Ra players, knitting enthusiasts or anything else in the world, would this conversation even come up? Many LGBT people don’t have access to other LGBT people, community centers or support networks. Many places in the world are neither friendly nor safe for LGBT people - developed first world countries included. I've met a lot of people through other games who are that exact situation. Also, in my experiences, video games and online communities are often one the first place many trans* individuals start to explore their identity. I've had the opportunity to connect with and share my experience to those who are desperately seeking a safe place to do the same. I'm not expecting such a Linkshell to be so heavy all the time. I'm hoping to use it to set up connections and plots with other LGBT characters. I think there's a lot of potential for fun in doing so.

Thanks for adding me in, but it looks like there was a small copypasta error - the tribal description for the Qerel description was added under the Qalli name.

I've gone with Tseren Qerel. I'm surprised to see that aren't any other tiger-killers listed yet!