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Like the title says, is there any detail about the Garlean Empire aside from what's on the site?  I'm basically looking to see what raced belong to them, are they even Hyur(human), what is the life like for an ordinary citizen, when do they get enlisted in the military and etc...  I know they're very technologically advanced, they've invaded twice and released Bahamut. 

 

The reason I'm asking is because I'm creating my Dragoon as an ex-Empire character who defected after seeing the carnage the release of Bahamut has wrought.  I don't want to write something that would clash with the lore for the Empire either so I'm trying to get as much info as I can.  Please and thank you. :)

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Artorias! How's that abyss walking hobby of yours? :P

 

Back on topic: There's this on the Final Fantasy WIKI. I -think-the Empire has pretty much all of the playable races in its ranks, except for lalafells, maybe, because they don't dwell on the north (and that's where the bulk of the Empire's forces are. There's a cutscene where I'm quite sure one of the engineers was a Roegadyn, and one of the Legate's on 1.0 was implied to be an elezen.

The Empire has also conquered Ala Mhigo, one of the city-states, and are conscripting/recruiting new soldiers from there. Seeing how all the known Eorzean city-states are basically cultural boiler plates, its safe to assume Ala Mhigo would have all races represented too and that the Empire is only racist against beastmen.

 

Also, the Empire has rigorous training and brainwashing for their low-key troops. So making him part of the military will make the whole defecting trickier to explain. Not impossible, mind. The wiki seems to imply this only happens in conquered nations, so if your character comes from the Empire's main continent, perhaps he was not subjected to those practices. Alternatively, you could make him a civilian that aided the military in some way.

 

On a side note: As far as I know, the Empire wasn't deliberately trying to release Bahamut. They were trying to nuke the Primals and, for whatever reason (probably tricks by someone, I guess), they thought that bringing down the lesser moon would do the trick. Of course, it kind of didn't.

 

Quick edit: Oh, and if you are wondering about their naming conventions, there's no thread for it like there is for the playable races. But, by seeing how the Legates and some other garlean NPCs are named, using germanic and roman names is probably a good idea.

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Thanks for the quick reply, and yes the Abyss walking was awesome.:P

 

Anyway for the character history I'm having it that he was born and raised in the Empire with the belief that they were doing a good thing and that the beast races were a threat to the world and that they were nothing but uncivilized bloodthirsty barbarians.  Hence him turning the other way when it came to committing acts of genocide.  In time though he does get to see the other side of things and eventually turns against the empire when Bahamut is released and pretty much wipes out everyone.  At least that is the game plan for this character.  As for the names well, I'm pretty much going with the name Artorias Rivendare (I love this last name) but we shall see how it goes.

 

Thanks for the link too, I will be putting it to good use :)

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Pardon the intrusion but I think the falling of Dalamud(and subsequent release of Bahamut) was not in the Empire's actual wishes but Nael Van Darnus' plot.  There is if I recall a cutscene between Nael and another Legatos arguing about having anything to conquer after Dalamud would decimate everything and that that was not the Emperor's command.

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I will keep that in mind, thanks for letting me know.  I am still researching all of this so any input from all of you lore junkies would be helpful before I make the first draft. I would like to be as accurate as possible in order to make this concept work. :)

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I never played 1.0, so the details of its plot aren't something I am sure of. Some players did mention that Darnus' Legion (or at least the army that clashed against the Eorzean Alliance in Cartenau) was somehow being manipulated to disobey the Emperor. There's also a cutscene (the same cutscene I mentioned before, actually), where one of the NPCs implies that the Emperor had given the unconquered regions as "lost" and that the Legate's orders made no sense. This NPC was quickly killed by one of the Legate's best friends, naturally.

 

In any case, I'm sure someone with a bigger Knowledge: FFXIV1.0 Lore skill will come around at some point and clarify.

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Pardon the intrusion but I think the falling of Dalamud(and subsequent release of Bahamut) was not in the Empire's actual wishes but Nael Van Darnus' plot.  There is if I recall a cutscene between Nael and another Legatos arguing about having anything to conquer after Dalamud would decimate everything and that that was not the Emperor's command.

 

I'm fairly certain Nael van Darnus was tempered by the primal - basically driven mad with a desire to free Bahamut. He then manipulated the Garlean military into doing just that, claiming that bringing down Dalamud would destroy Bahamut when truly it would free him.

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I'm just gonna copy-paste a reply to a PM I sent out earlier because there's no way I'm typing it all again. Also going to spoiler it because it's huuuuge.

 

 

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Can I ask you for a Magitek history lesson when you have the time? *bats eyelashes*

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Magitek, let's see..  ..I'll start small-ish.

 

 

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I think I've been playing to much Kerbal Space Program, my first thought after reading about how Dalmund was launched into orbit was to wonder where they got the massive amount of Delta-V they'd need to do it. Other than that it is a great write up on magitek, hope you can expand on it more as more lore becomes available.

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Magitek, let's see..  ..I'll start small-ish.

 

 

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So basically it's the Empire's Manhattan Project :P

 

Going a bit off topic and based on the video below.  Is it safe to assume that both the VIIth and XIVth Legions were present during the release of Bahamut?

 

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I think it's more likekly that only one of the legions was present (the one that got erased from the map). The cinematic does show the leader of the other one, so he was present but watching from very, very far away. I guess he was curious and expecting everything to go kablooie.

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So basically it's the Empire's Manhattan Project :P

 

Going a bit off topic and based on the video below.  Is it safe to assume that both the VIIth and XIVth Legions were present during the release of Bahamut?

 

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Nope! Canonically, only the VIIth Imperial Legion of Garlemald was present at the battle of Carteneau, and it's been mentioned off-hand that the legion was all but completely obliterated. Gaius may have been present in the air to observe the events from afar, but the XIVth Legion was not a part of the battle. There's actually some interesting lore behind their fall. Darnus abandoned the legion well before the battle of Carteneau, but his soldiers were so loyal and fervent of his command that they absolutely refused to believe he had been killed, and some went so far as to imposter him if I remember correctly. The Seventh Legion basically commanded itself on the battlefield.

 

But yes, lore-wise, no other legion was present on the battlefield, and it's likely a solid 90~99% of the legion was killed that day. There's nothing left of them, as they didn't really have anywhere to run. Some of the Grand Companies managed to survive as they had a route to retreat on, and managed to do so well before Bahamut completely tore up the area.

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Well damn, that puts me in a pickle a bit.  99% casualty rate is pretty high and I have no idea what the Grand companies are even or if it would be even plausible that my character would have been part of them.  The only other option which I could fit in with what I have planned for this character would be that he survived because of divine intervention as I am planing to tie his major storyline on going on to become a Dragoon and having his destiny await him in Ishgard.  I am taking Halone as his patron deity as well since she is their patron goddess. Again though I am still researching so I don't know yet.  I have to find some way for him to survive that whole ordeal, it is a major turning point for him because witnessing the chaos created by Bahamut is what is supposed to turn him against the Empire and become a deserter.

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The Grand Companies are the factions of each Eorzean city state. There's one for Ul'dah, one for Limsa Lominsa and one for Gridania. They are the good guys and therefore not the Empire.

 

I suggest you scrap "divine intervention" as an actual fact (though your character can certainly think that is the case). It implies your character is kind of important to the god. The exception would be if he was a Warrior of Light, as it's officially canonical that they got transported forward in time before Bahamut could burn them to ashes. However, this means your character isn't part of the Empire.

 

Remember that Bahamut didn't just wreck the area of the battle: he broke a whole lot of places, as despicted in the End of an Era cinematic; and it's also a big plot point. In fact, the whole 'Bahamut wrecked stuff' is what the Calamity really was.

With this in mind, it'd be very reasonable to make your character desert after witnessing the moon break and the ensuing destruction while being stationed in another location. Maybe an outpost, or in one of the imperial airships.

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