Time and Measurements in Hydaelyn

[Keir]

So, as far as I can tell, this discussion hasn't been brought up yet. If it has, please feel free to direct me to the thread.

 

This is one of those nitpicky little things that I always seem obsessed over. How are time and measurements calculated in Eorzea, how do they translate to our own, and how will the role-play community deal with them?

 

From what I can tell so far, time seems to be very similar to Vana'diel. There are months (astral moons), days (suns), and years. There are hours (bells), and minutes.

 

1 bell is roughly equivalent to 3 Earth minutes.

1 sun is a little over one Earth hour.

 

The math has already been done on a few Eorzea clock out there, so if you guys find more precise calculations, please let me know. I'm pretty sure that they aren't going by Vana'diel's exact system.

 

Also, does anyone know what malms and yalms are equivalent to? Miles and Yards?

 

Finally, as a point of discussion: When role-playing, do you usually use Earth time as a reference, or Hydaelyn time?

 

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THINGS LEARNED

 

Hour = Bell

Day = Sun (24 Bells in a Sun : or 4 cycles of 6 elemental hours)

Month = Moon (32 Suns in a Moon : or 4 cycles of 8 Suns)

Year = Year (12 Moons in a Year)

 

Day

Bells of the day.

<< 0:00 - 1:00 - 2:00 - 3:00 - 4:00 - 5:00 - 6:00 - 7:00 - 8:00 - 9:00 - 10:00 - 11:00 - 12:00 - 13:00 - 14:00 - 15:00 - 16:00 - 17:00 - 18:00 - 19:00 - 20:00 - 21:00 - 22:00 - 23:00 >>

 

Moons

1st Astral Moon : Halone (Ice)

1st Umbral Moon : Menphina (Ice)

2nd Astral Moon : Thaliak (Water)

2nd Umbral Moon : Nymeia (Water)

3rd Astral Moon : Llymlaen (Wind)

3rd Umbral Moon : Oschon (Wind)

4th Astral Moon : Byregot (Lightning)

4th Umbral Moon : Rhalgr (Lightning)

5th Astral Moon : Azeyma (Fire)

5th Umbral Moon : Nald'thal (Fire)

6th Astral Moon : Nophica (Earth)

6th Umbral Moon : Althyk (Earth)

 

Years

the year of the navigator, of the wanderer, of the builder, of the destroyer, of the warden, of the Traders, of the matron, of the Keeper, Of the Fury, of the Lovers, of the Scholar, and of the Spinner

 

Each twelve years is an epoch of man.

 

Era

We are currently in the Sixth Astral Era.

 

Measurement

Fulm : Foot

Yalm : Yard

Malm : Mile

Ilm : Inch

Ponz : Pound

Onz : Ounce

 

Elements

Essences & permutations-a Treaties of the Six Elements

The spark of the Lightning Ignites when it strikes, and thus Fire is Born.

The Heat of Fire renders to ash all that it touches, and thus Earth is Born.

The density of Earth shuns Sun and Harbors cold, and thus Ice is born.

The amour of Ice Melts Away, and Thus Water is Born,

The Moistness of Water mists and rises and thus wind is born

The gusts and sighs of Wind gather the clouds, and thus Lightning is born.

 

The Three Conquests, Boundless and Unwavering

Earth Grounds Lightning

Water Erodes Earth.

Lightning boils Water

 

The Three Submissions, Timeless and Unending.

Fire is Extinguished by Wind

Ice is Melted by Fire

Wind is obstructed by Ice.

 

Theories:

http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/17925-un ... he-cosmos

[Kashemia]

When I roleplay, time is usually flexible. If I spend several hours roleplaying, it's gonna be hard to explain that my character hung out at a bar for many days. I just don't see way of doing it completely consistent, so time will be depending on what is happening, what I'm doing, what the people I'm with thinks, etc.

[Trizzip]

Also, does anyone know what malms and yalms are equivalent to? Miles and Yards?

 

Yes, that is correct. Also, a Fulm is a foot

 

[Kejira]

1st Month is called 1st Astral Moon

2nd Month is called 1st Umbral Moon

 

and so one, theres 12 in all 6 Astral Moons and 6 Umbral Moons with 32 Days in each Moon

 

every Odd Month is called an "Astral Moon" and every Even Moon is called "Umbral Moon"

[Mycroft]

It's a quite entertaining system.. Except for the Fulms, Malms and Yalms.

[Keir]

Am editing my top post as information is added.

[Gavriel]

This is excellent! Finally, something other than miles and meters...

[Shamadconde]

I was wrong.

[Keir]

That's what's from a screenshot, but I took it straight from the Beta and it's different.

[Shamadconde]

Well I do know Rhalgr is the 6th umbral moon.

[Keir]

Hmm. Maybe it's different depending on the sun you use. I'll change it.

[Kejira]

Well I do know Rhalgr is the 6th umbral moon.

 

Maybe they changed whats in the beta after that was posted on the Wiki, i'm looking at creating char part where you chose a nameday and it's as Keir says

[Keir]

Well I do know Rhalgr is the 6th umbral moon.

 

Maybe they changed whats in the beta after that was posted on the Wiki, i'm looking at creating char part where you chose a nameday and it's as Keir says

 

It's true. I've tried it every way I can think of. They must have changed the months around.

[Shamadconde]

Ya. I just looked too. Oops. I guess they did change it. Need to slap the wiki. BRB.

 

Edit: Done! I just noticed they follow that chart you use when you choose a deity.

[Asyria]

I think using Eorzean terminology would allow for more immersion but the days simply go WAY too fast to use the actual Eorzean time with any sort of accuracy.

So I'd say like. "see you in 3 bells" and it would mean 3 real time hours, for example.

[Keir]

I think using Eorzean terminology would allow for more immersion but the days simply go WAY too fast to use the actual Eorzean time with any sort of accuracy.

So I'd say like. "see you in 3 bells" and it would mean 3 real time hours, for example.

 

This is how I ran Lost Boys in XI... but I wasn't exactly sure how most people are used to handling it.

[Kylin]

This is actually an etiquette worthy topic (and was originally listed as one). So everyone feel free to submit some proposed guides related to time in Hydaelyn and Earth to put up on the main site.

[Vareal]

Also, does anyone know what malms and yalms are equivalent to? Miles and Yards?

 

Yes, that is correct. Also, a Fulm is a foot

 

This is excellent! Finally' date=' something other than miles and meters...[/quote']

 

 

I shall call them leagues, thank you very much. (league = roughly 3 miles)

[Mycroft]

I shall call them "Acres" and I have no idea as to what they can be converted into.

[Shamadconde]

Food.

[Vareal]

Food.

 

Mm, yes, indeed. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1126

[Shamadconde]

I like that thread!

[Eva]

Also:

 

ilm (equivalent to inch I assume)

ponz (equivalent to pound)

onz (equivalent to ounce)

 

...going from FF11 lore anyway...

[Keir]

Also:

 

ilm (equivalent to inch I assume)

ponz (equivalent to pound)

onz (equivalent to ounce)

 

...going from FF11 lore anyway...

 

I'm going to wait to add those until we have confirmation that they're being used in XIV too.

[Len]

So which deity watches over the 10th uhm month which could be the like 5th umbral moon or is it astral moon

I am like completely confused now cause like the deities wiki had 10th moon and 7th moon and so on now there an umbral astral moon that confusing me

 

And if I say 3 bells that could either mean a clock tower 3 bells or after the 3 bells on the microwave , kettle which means eat and drink time and then the third bell being me going back into my room to play again I thiink