balmung Limsa Lominsa RP Connections

[TheLastCandle]

The most interesting thing about Limsa, to me, is that conflict of the "old ways" versus the new order. While Ul'dah has that classical "law/order vs the criminal element," Limsa is in the unique position where its governing law in many cases used to be its criminal element, including Admiral Merlwyb and Storm Marshall Eynzahr. I'd love to see events that bring those two "sides" of Lominsan society together, employing different means to a common goal. 

 

So speaking for myself, the treasure hunt angle sounds like it'd be right up my alley and would put a twinkle in Hwab's eye for sure. Once a pirate...  But aye, first things first: a nice li'l RP hotspot where characters of all types can mingle without it seeming forced. And that's the kicker: the Bismarck is a little too high-falootin' for Hwab's sensibilities, and I doubt I'm alone there. Then there's the Drowning Wench, which is always full of non-RPers. The Missing Member is a bit on the small side, but rubbin' elbows is what we want people to do, right?

 

I feel like I might be coming across as a bit.. limiting, with all of the options I'm suggesting being taverns. I know many folks are averse to "Tavern RP," and to be fair it is often stifling, but in the smaller communities I've played in (MUDs, NWN persistent worlds) taverns and town squares and the like were simply where people went to get a party started. The real RP happened when somebody said "Yanno what? To hell with them orcs. Let's take up arms and raid their camp!" or a DM took interest and decided to make something happen. The beauty of Limsa Lominsa is that, at least in comparison with Ul'dah, we are that smaller community. It should be easier for us to do things like that.

[ArmachiA]

 

I'm all in favor of plots that don't mandate participation or split continuity. In Ul'dah right now, for instance, there's a plot that, if you don't consent to it, more or less puts you in a completely different IC continuity than those who do. I try to avoid those sorts of things because they're not my cup of tea and, as I mentioned, they make RP quite difficult (not to mention how confusing they can be to totally new players trying to break into RP). Note that I'm not trying to denigrate this plot; I'm just pointing out that it's not my style, and I would personally like to not have to avoid RPing in a second city.

 

A treasure hunt -- so long as the MacGuffin isn't something like, oh, the cure to a lethal plague cast o'er the land -- is a good way to do that. People can get involved, or not, as they see fit, and it has the particularly nice advantage of letting people opt out entirely ICly ("Uh-huh, a great treasure. And you heard that from a drunken privateer at the Wench while he had two whores giggling on his lap? Yeah, you go chase after that entirely real treasure..."). What I really would like to avoid is anything where those involved in the plot are living in a completely different continuity because of what the plot does.

 

 

Those kind of plots, for a city, are the kind of thing I'm trying to actively avoid because it is such a problem in Ul'dah. Anything that would be thought of by me, I obviously can't think for anyone else, would just be to get people Roleplaying in the city and not have some kind of overarching plot that suddenly defines the entire city and how the people must RP there. The treasure hunt is good, it's a one off plot that gets people into the city. Then later they can grab a beer, then other people will see people grabbing a beer and go "Oh hey people RP here" and start showing up on their own.

 

The biggest thing we need to do is get people into the city. There's a perception that things only happen in Ul'dah and we need to change that.

[111]

You could do a plot about going to the carteneau flats and fighting Gridania and Ul'dah for Allagan relics, because you guys are pretty good at that T_T.

[ArmachiA]

Ul'dah is the new Lastok

 

/ffxijokes.

[Melodia]

Re: Yellowjackets

 

One way to avoid the I'd-rather-not-deal-with-player-run-city-stuff thing would be to have Ruru and whoever joins him (please join him) create a fuckup unit.  That way, citizen characters could just brush them off (oh, it's just you guys.  I'll report you to your sergeant for harassing me) if they didn't want to deal with them, while players like me who are looking for a more active antagonist presence (in the form of policing) would have it.  Best of both worlds, maybe?  Good idea, bad idea?

 

I would love to have folks talk to me and we can kind of figure out what we want to do. I will need to kind of work on my character for it, as she's only level 15. But, I do think that if a couple folks joined me, we could set up a pretty solid law enforcement arm in the city. And with that in place we can start having some bigger scale rp with the criminal folks in the city. Plus, that actually gives an excuse for folks like the Sultansworn to come and engage with the law folks in Limsa when necessary.  

 

If anyone wants to kind of brainstorm on the Yellowjacket side, please pm me and we can discuss here or in game.

[ArmachiA]

^ I'm not sure how many times I have to state this, but I'll do it till someone acknowledges I'm saying it.

 

The plan is not to do what people are doing in Ul'dah, only tiny one-offs and small non-reaching plotlines to get people into the city Roleplaying until they are no longer necessary and people just naturally happen to go there on their own.

[FreelanceWizard]

^ I'm not sure how many times I have to state this, but I'll do it till someone acknowledges I'm saying it.

 

The plan is not to do what people are doing in Ul'dah, only tiny one-offs and small non-reaching plotlines to get people into the city Roleplaying until they are no longer necessary and people just naturally happen to go there on their own.

 

One, you have a plan?!

 

Two, this exactly, and I entirely support that approach (for all that my support matters to anyone).

[Enteris]

^ I'm not sure how many times I have to state this, but I'll do it till someone acknowledges I'm saying it.

 

The plan is not to do what people are doing in Ul'dah, only tiny one-offs and small non-reaching plotlines to get people into the city Roleplaying until they are no longer necessary and people just naturally happen to go there on their own.

 

I very much acknowledge what you're saying and agree wholeheartedly and give you a virtual pat on the back and shoulder. I was simply adding in my two cents and agreeing with the wiz as I'm a little more than frustrated with the situation that the Ul'dah RP has put me, my closest RP friends, and even my FC into.

 

And once again, I agree one million times over with the wiz's latest post in this thread regarding said plot.

[ArmachiA]

Yay acknowledgement.

 

I'll keep saying it over and over again to get rid of any fears, I'm just hoping people don't auto-assume we're doing what they are in Ul'dah. We just need something to gather those that do rp in Limsa more regular - like a treasure hunt or a dance or a just to help get people in the habit of actually looking for RP in Limsa (Which, even though people rp there, not many are in the habit of checking there for Socializing)

 

Can you PM me your problems with Ul'dah? I'd like to hear it to avoid the pitfalls.

[Melodia]

^ I think this is a good discussion and would like to share my opinion, but it's probably best this this split since it would derail Zhavi's attempts at bringing together Limsa

 

I agree. I would split the discussion about city-wide rp away from this thread as this really is supposed to be a Limsa resource and brainstorming thread.

[Shayrei]

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Andralyn is a bit of a gambler and she needs a place to hunker down for some Hydaelyn Hold 'em!  The way we've played in the past is to use http://roll20.net/ to create a room and deal out cards then kinda flip back and forth to RP the bets and such. It's a bit "gah" because it takes you out of the game just a bit, but still enjoyable, I think.

 

Would anyone be interested in joining in on something like this? Is there an event like this already established in Limsa? If there's not, does someone have a house they're willing to open for a night of gambling...I promise Andralyn will leave the 'companions' at home.

[Melodia]

[align=center]Would anyone be interested in joining in on something like this? Is there an event like this already established in Limsa? If there's not, does someone have a house they're willing to open for a night of gambling...I promise Andralyn will leave the 'companions' at home. [/align]

 

 

Now no no no no.....she's supposed to bring the companions, silly!

 

Haha!

 

I'd be down for it though it gets hard not being on a PC. I always have a tough time with roll business. But this would be fun. Hey if people can rp their people "rp'ing" in the game then why not cards?

[TheLastCandle]

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[align=center]And now that I have your attention! [/align]

 

 

[align=center]Let's play cards![/align]

 

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Andralyn is a bit of a gambler and she needs a place to hunker down for some Hydaelyn Hold 'em!  The way we've played in the past is to use http://roll20.net/ to create a room and deal out cards then kinda flip back and forth to RP the bets and such. It's a bit "gah" because it takes you out of the game just a bit, but still enjoyable, I think.

 

Would anyone be interested in joining in on something like this? Is there an event like this already established in Limsa? If there's not, does someone have a house they're willing to open for a night of gambling...I promise Andralyn will leave the 'companions' at home.

 

Yes, please

[Zhavi]

I think, if you all are interested, that having a thread in rp discussion specifically to talk opinion about city-wide rp wouldn't be a bad idea; that way anyone who wants to comment on things but also doesn't want to interrupt the thread would be able to; I can be an opinionated jackdaw so I certainly understand the desire to discuss opinions. (I don't consider your post an intrusion at all, Kahn'a -- you saw something you wanted to clarify and respond to in a respectful manner. Nothing wrong with that) I can start a new thread or someone else can.

 

So first order of business -- collecting places to hang out and rp (which, imo, establishing some low-key gambling rp in that area is a wonderful and easy way for some characters to be able to drop in and get rp while being able to leave whenever they wanted to!)

 

Places mentioned:

 

The Missing Member

The Bismarck

The Drowning Wench

Rum N Rumble

Anchor Yard

Aftcastle

 

 

I think, for the time being, that maybe we should start in the city and then splinter off and start encouraging rp in the Mist area. (I am dying to go into the Rum n Rumble, haha)

 

The Bismarck, as Ruru said, is tied to a guild and is a little on the upper crust side.

 

The Anchor Yard is a bit out of the way.

 

 

I think for choices to vote on, that the Missing Member, Wench and Aftcastle are our best bets.

 

Did anyone want to add another suggestion, or shall I go ahead and put up a vote with those three?

 

 

 

As an aside, what Aerghwab said about the tensions between old way and new is something that I, embarrassingly enough, haven't put much thought into. But he's totally right -- that does give Limsa its own flair (Besides pirates, arrr), and is something to definitely explore more through rp.

[FreelanceWizard]

*puts on Magic Admin Hat*

 

I split the posts in this thread on that topic off into a new thread, and in doing so screwed up one of my own posts. :blush: Such is the price you pay when using the thread Cuisinart; sometimes you cut off your own fingers. If I missed anything that's part of the context, let me know and I'll try again, and this time hopefully not lose a hand.

 

*takes off Magic Admin Hat*

 

What about the Astralicia? I'm not sure it's exactly the best setting for tavern RP (a ship themed tavern?), but it's a possible option, as is Fisherman's Bottom (though I know Gus and his crew use that a fair bit).

[Enteris]

Sounds good. 

 

And apparently Shayrei wishes for me to play the part of dealer again... >.>

 

As a side note... pirates never said "Arr!" and "Shiver me timbers!" or any of that other crap. That was all made up speech from Treasure Island. 

 

EDIT: And while I understand and appreciate the desire to split the thread as you have, the points mentioned were pertinent to this thread as well. You guys are trying to establish a better RP community in Limsa. To do so, you need to hear opinions on what to do or what not to do. City-wide RP, as it's been labeled, is one of those things that several have asked not to do and they gave their reasons to back it.

[Miza]

It's not in the city, but when the Limsa community is big enough to start bleeding out into the La Noscea areas a bit more frequently, I think Camp Bronze Lake would be a good place for another potential hotspot down the road. It's typically not too populated whenever I pass by it and it has a tavern and hot springs.

 

Costa del Sol also has a bar, but I feel like it would best be used as a vacation or beach party spot instead of a general hotspot.

[FreelanceWizard]

EDIT: And while I understand and appreciate the desire to split the thread as you have, the points mentioned were pertinent to this thread as well. You guys are trying to establish a better RP community in Limsa. To do so, you need to hear opinions on what to do or what not to do. City-wide RP, as it's been labeled, is one of those things that several have asked not to do and they gave their reasons to back it.

 

They are, yeah, and there was also some other relevant information in them, too. That's why I said I screwed up one of my own posts, since it wasn't until after I split the thread that I realized I'd eliminated my comments on two different RP concepts in addition to the city-wide RP stuff.

 

So... yeah. That's totally on me. I can't always make the right calls (or even particularly good ones).

 

[Zhavi]

Ehehehe, whenever I use the word 'arr', in my head I'm referencing The Longest Journey and her "I look like a real pirate" (or was it sailor? It was a long time ago) message, which I would hence repeat endlessly to my boyfriend because of how silly it was. .... just roll with it.

 

 

I had totally forgotten about the Astralicia, but that is also a really great location, Fisherman's Bottom too.

 

Astralicia

Fisherman's Bottom

Wench

Member

Aftcastle

 

I'll put the poll up in an hour or two to give people the chance to offer more suggestions. Then I'll likely do another poll if there are very few votes to help narrow it down and stuff.

 

 

 

edit - I totally agree, Miza. There are some fantastic rp places outside Limsa to eventually branch out to. Heck, if we roll forward with the treasure hunt (and it's looking like that's the most popular option), then we might even base a leg of it out of one of those areas.

[Gar]

My FC has started playing IC poker using the site pokerrpg.com You can set the table to give you a long time for your turn, so you can RP your turn/conversation without worrying about the clock ticking. Just a suggestion for people wanting to IC gamble.

 

I've actually always liked the whole RP gambling thing. I want to look into other forms that we can flesh out. It'd be fun to have a little casino to hang out and gamble. (Totally a Limsa flair to me)

[Melodia]

 

I've actually always liked the whole RP gambling thing. I want to look into other forms that we can flesh out. It'd be fun to have a little casino to hang out and gamble. (Totally a Limsa flair to me)

I had wanted Ruru to set something like this up, like a back room casino type thing for rp and such, but I struggle with the logistics (ie how to rp a card game, or a dice game). And being on a console makes it harder to sort of have access to the web like that even though I still think it's an awesome idea. I even thought it would be cool when personal housing comes to have the house be the casino. But again, it's tricky. You would need help from others to "run" the games.

[Rosekitten]

First off.. how in the world did I miss this thread when it was first posted?! 

 

Now more to business, the FC I am in resides in Limsa but presently they are still in the progress of forming so I don't really want to advertise the group too much.. maybe in a few weeks when things settle down in real life for the leaders.

 

As far as my thoughts on rp locations.. I rp quite a bit on the outskirts of the city so to say (like the Anchor was mentioned). Also I try to pull some rp aspects to the Black/Armorsmith guild seeing as this is primarily where my character resides.

 

Though maybe I have bad luck .. seems most of my contacts interested in rp'ing out trading of materials or repair work or crafting in general seem to vanish before first contact is even made. 

 

Now for the locations listed... I linger about the Drowning Wench seeing as that is where most of the rp'ing I have found in Limsa happens. I forget about the Missing member if I am honest but it seems I may have to venture over there from time to time now. I've seen a bit of rp at the two guilds as well (mar and arc) but they seem to be mainly training sessions or I suppose possible sign ups for enlisting into the enforcement groups about the area. 

 

There is my thoughts and banter on the topic.. *goes back to lurking like I normally do* >-<;

[Nnejo]

It's not in the city, but when the Limsa community is big enough to start bleeding out into the La Noscea areas a bit more frequently, I think Camp Bronze Lake would be a good place for another potential hotspot down the road. It's typically not too populated whenever I pass by it and it has a tavern and hot springs.

 

Costa del Sol also has a bar, but I feel like it would best be used as a vacation or beach party spot instead of a general hotspot.

 

 

When I was still active in the community I ran an operationout of Costa Del Sol. At that time I was on another server but I am starting it up again. I could definitely use a helping hand if anyone is interested since the story has changed a bit. (New write up pending)

 

And I would very much be on board for reviving the Limsa RP

[ArmachiA]

The Rum n Rumble isn't open just yet, but that's only because we can't really think of an event! If you want to use it for your gambling thing we would love to let you.

[Zhavi]

First off.. how in the world did I miss this thread when it was first posted?! 

 

Now more to business, the FC I am in resides in Limsa but presently they are still in the progress of forming so I don't really want to advertise the group too much.. maybe in a few weeks when things settle down in real life for the leaders.

 

Now for the locations listed... I linger about the Drowning Wench seeing as that is where most of the rp'ing I have found in Limsa happens. I forget about the Missing member if I am honest but it seems I may have to venture over there from time to time now. I've seen a bit of rp at the two guilds as well (mar and arc) but they seem to be mainly training sessions or I suppose possible sign ups for enlisting into the enforcement groups about the area. 

 

There is my thoughts and banter on the topic.. *goes back to lurking like I normally do* >-<;

 

Nooo, don't lurk! The more voices active about the topic, the better chance we have of building something lasting that gets more people involved. And yes, please please do post your FC's information here when it's ready!

 

I haven't really hung around the guilds too much since my character probably wouldn't be welcome unless she had business there *coughcough* -- but I admit to curiosity -- are there enforcement groups in Limsa? I haven't seen any in game, but that is definitely something I'd love to know.

 

 

 

When I was still active in the community I ran an operationout of Costa Del Sol. At that time I was on another server but I am starting it up again. I could definitely use a helping hand if anyone is interested since the story has changed a bit. (New write up pending)

 

And I would very much be on board for reviving the Limsa RP

 

Zhi would definitely visit if it was near Limsa! I don't suppose you'd be interested in operating a sort of dual-location operation? One in Costa and one somewhere in Limsa? You should totally have them in the Rum n Rumble once it opens, too.

 

What sort of help do you need?

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to post some thoughts regarding a treasure hunt rp later (when I'm more awake and coherent) -- in the meantime, if anyone has ideas please don't hesitate to plop them down! Also, if we could get the gambling and the burlesque stuff going on in the same place . . .that would be so freaking awesome.