Cross-species / Cross clans offspring

[Flickering Ember]

But nothing with Lalafell, because... No.

If we had another small race, I wouldn't have a problem with the concept; Lala's aren't some weird race that stays children forever. But as they are right now, I picture a Lala carrying a pureblood Lala baby the same way a kiwi carries an egg before laying it:

 

Doyouseehowinsanelygiantthateggiscomparedtotherestofthebird?! 

 

Yes, they've evolved to handle birthing something that proportionally big, but I can't see how they'd handle something bigger due to breeding with a larger race without complications. And, dear gods, think about Lala's having twins (or more!) with that sort of proportion..!

 

Wait, what? Where are you getting this from? A lalafell baby wouldn't be the size of a regular human baby. A lalafell baby would be proportional to the lalafell body in the same way that a human baby is proportional to a human mother's body. In regards to other posters in this thread commenting on lalafell mothers, I am not seeing how the specifics of the lalafell birthing process would be any more difficult than a human's. A lalafell baby is going to be much smaller than a human's baby... by a lot! I know lalafell have huge heads, but it's not like we have the same size heads our entire life.

 

Or, if people have a thing for bizarre fantasy race biology, then I guess a kiwi could work too. :surprise:

[Briggs]

An Au Ra Hellsguard hybrid would probably look pretty wicked!

[Dat Oni]

An Au Ra Hellsguard hybrid would probably look pretty wicked!

 

 

What I just pictured in my head right now.

[Zyrusticae]

A lalafell baby is going to be much smaller than a human's baby... by a lot! I know lalafell have huge heads' date=' but it's not like we have the same size heads our entire life.[/quote']

The head is the single biggest and most difficult part of the baby to push out during the birthing process. This is not a trivial fact. If it's true for humans it would be especially true for Lalafell babies. Unless they birth them earlier (a dubious claim to make considering human babies are already birthed at a stage of development that is earlier than most other placental mammals) their babies are going to have heads of comparable or even larger size.

 

In fact, a lot of the things surrounding Lalafells are just simply biologically dubious and I really want to take the devs to task on a lot of this stuff....

[Briggs]

An Au Ra Hellsguard hybrid would probably look pretty wicked!

 

 

What I just pictured in my head right now.

[Kinono]

The head is the single biggest and most difficult part of the baby to push out during the birthing process. This is not a trivial fact. If it's true for humans it would be especially true for Lalafell babies. Unless they birth them earlier (a dubious claim to make considering human babies are already birthed at a stage of development that is earlier than most other placental mammals) their babies are going to have heads of comparable or even larger size.

 

In fact, a lot of the things surrounding Lalafells are just simply biologically dubious and I really want to take the devs to task on a lot of this stuff....

 

One thing I find a lot of people don't notice is that lalafell heads are actually larger than most other races' heads, despite the smaller body size. If you take my lala and any miqo'te (you know, just for example, but it applies most places. I haven't personaly compared myself to any roegadyn) and put their heads side-by-side, the difference is very noticeable.

 

One time, ICly, (and there may be some here who could remember this  ) someone asked Kinono's husband about the size of lalafell babies, and he pointed to the mammet minion I had summoned for reference. While there's no way of knowing these things for sure, honestly looking at the thing, and comparing the proportions, it seems like it's be a fair assumption for an on-the-spot guess.

 

[C'kayah Polaali]

A lalafell baby is going to be much smaller than a human's baby... by a lot! I know lalafell have huge heads' date=' but it's not like we have the same size heads our entire life.[/quote']

The head is the single biggest and most difficult part of the baby to push out during the birthing process. This is not a trivial fact. If it's true for humans it would be especially true for Lalafell babies. Unless they birth them earlier (a dubious claim to make considering human babies are already birthed at a stage of development that is earlier than most other placental mammals) their babies are going to have heads of comparable or even larger size.

 

In fact, a lot of the things surrounding Lalafells are just simply biologically dubious and I really want to take the devs to task on a lot of this stuff....

 

At the same time, Lalafell hips are proportionately very wide, and their torsos are very long. There's plenty of room for a bigger-than-proportional uterus, and - assuming their wide hips reflect wide pelvises - them to birth children with normal sized heads.

[C'kayah Polaali]

What for?

 

 

Is it the part that people don't think Lalas are sexy?

Or maybe because people don't think it appropriate to crossbreed Lalas with other races?

 

Came back to this thread to read up just as the whole Lala conversation started up. If I were a anime, I'd have that giant awkward tear floating by my face as I back away slowly.

 

I don't believe a Roe penis would be the size of a whole lala.. but probably a lala arm or leg. Which then makes my uterus cringe for a poor lala female since that's basically imagining myself getting porked with my own arm.

 

That moment you imagine something you can't unimagine.

 

 

Sorry, but my own personal Roegadyn headcanon is now informed by the gorilla's infamous 1.5" penis.

[Blue]

Tuning in because I just remembered of another clear case in which culture makes cross-clan breeding a rare and frowned upon thing.

 

According to the Elezen naming conventions, no elezen last name will be found to be shared between both clans. This is a great sign of the disdain and general scorn that flows between the two clans (and that they give themselves names such as "Gray" and "Green" is a pretty obvious one too). If a Duskwight and a Wilwood were to mate, the last name of one of the parents would be passed down to the offspring, which in either case would be seen in the wrong because of its mixed heritage, thus unable to receive either last name and still claim to belong to its "right clan" (since it'd be of both and none of the clans at the same time).

 

Personally I RP both my Elezen being very aware of the differences between the two clans, and try to keep away from characters of the opposed clan (with my female Duskwight being certainly the more aggressive about it, since my male Wildwood is more kind-hearted. He however still keeps a general defensive behavior when a Duskwight is nearby.).

 

As for the new Keeper lore coming from the Moogle mail quests... well, waaay to go SE. Destroyed my whole one-year old plot with information that should've come much much sooner. I think I'll stick to my own point of view because I don't feel like retconning one year worth of story. Time to put a huge disclaimer on Jet'a and Kujh'a's wikis!

[Xiaoli Vorgan]

What for?

 

 

Is it the part that people don't think Lalas are sexy?

Or maybe because people don't think it appropriate to crossbreed Lalas with other races?

 

Came back to this thread to read up just as the whole Lala conversation started up. If I were a anime, I'd have that giant awkward tear floating by my face as I back away slowly.

 

I don't believe a Roe penis would be the size of a whole lala.. but probably a lala arm or leg. Which then makes my uterus cringe for a poor lala female since that's basically imagining myself getting porked with my own arm.

 

That moment you imagine something you can't unimagine.

 

 

Sorry, but my own personal Roegadyn headcanon is now informed by the gorilla's infamous 1.5" penis.

 

I was meaning possible average sized... Also, someone called the part a sausage... just as I was eating my breakfast and it made me giggle.

[Dravus]

A lalafell baby is going to be much smaller than a human's baby... by a lot! I know lalafell have huge heads, but it's not like we have the same size heads our entire life.

The head is the single biggest and most difficult part of the baby to push out during the birthing process. This is not a trivial fact. If it's true for humans it would be especially true for Lalafell babies. Unless they birth them earlier (a dubious claim to make considering human babies are already birthed at a stage of development that is earlier than most other placental mammals) their babies are going to have heads of comparable or even larger size.

 

In fact, a lot of the things surrounding Lalafells are just simply biologically dubious and I really want to take the devs to task on a lot of this stuff....

 

Let's be honest here, outside of the role-playing community I don't think a lot of people even think about that sort of thing. The sexual habits of fantasy races aren't often touched upon in-depth and to be honest I don't think they necessarily need to be either.

[Velaena]

Given how different the clans are in-game (specifically The duskwight and the wildwood since that is what I'm looking at specifically), I wonder how common it is for them to cross paths, and more importantly get along at least enough to engage in intercourse. 

 

For Miqo'te I could see it being quite common since the males wander, and I believe they'd be more concerned with possibly producing male offspring than whether or not they actually like the male. 

 

For another race such as the Elezen I could see it being much rarer due to the nature and animosity between the two clans. Though this is not to say that two individuals could not produce a child because obviously people within a certain group do not all share the same mindset. I just think it would be rarer in this case. 

 

Also, given how different the clans look, I wonder who they'd take traits from. Many people have suggested that it might be like Elder Scrolls/Pokemon where the traits are inherited from the mothers, which only a few things being passed down from the father. I think this would be a good way of looking at it, since we can't really determine it unless Sqeenix give us more lore. 

(Which is insanely doubtful because who else other than RP'ers goes into in-depth discussions about the genetics of a race in a game because it's fun?)

[Aduu Avagnar]

I think the best bet would be to wait until 3.0 which will contain more info in cross breeds, I believe it was, it could just be that is was just more crossbreeds. in any case, they are incredibly rare.