Y'lani Posted January 29, 2015 Share #26 Posted January 29, 2015 Ohhh I like the sea traveling tribe idea! Just wish I knew more people to put that plan into action! For some reason all I can see is the Seeker equivalent of the old traveling Wild West shows. M: "Looks like it's down 'ta you and me, purrtner." U: "Not a chance, buddy. I am 'tha real Nunh, and I'll damn well prove it." *pistols flinging, bang bang, the ship shakes from their uunnatural force!* M: "Face it. 'Yer down on the dock. Boys! Take him to the poopdeck!" U: *overexaggerated gasping* "No. No! 'Ya can't do this to me! The ladies prefer a real man, not scum like you!" M: *holding ladies in skimpy clothing that randomly step onto the bridge from the Captain's cabin* "Look at these beauties. 'Ya jealous, wannabe Nunh?" U: "Nooo! I deserve better!" *sudden choking* *unrealistic splash in the water* Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted January 29, 2015 Thanks for the help everyone. Please be patient as I throw a bunch more at you! Okay, moving past the Nunh/Tia debate, if A miqo'te where to leave his tribe and not much care to start another, would he be interested in a romance with other species/races other then his own? I mean I'm sure others RPers have, but what would the Miqo'te do themselves? I figure that being in the tribe it would be Miqo'te all the way around. But as a tribeless member, would it be out of nature to fall for a Roge or Elezen? And is there any other hard known facts about Miqo'te that I seem to be missing? Link to comment
Perth Posted January 29, 2015 Share #28 Posted January 29, 2015 I mean I'm sure others RPers have' date=' but what would the Miqo'te do themselves? I figure that being in the tribe it would be Miqo'te all the way around. But as a tribeless member, would it be out of nature to fall for a Roge or Elezen?[/quote'] Heck no! They're out of their tribe, so they've no expectations to fulfill. I'd say go for it if he ends up fancying another race, there's no reason he couldn't! Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted January 29, 2015 But are they capable of reproducing and starting a family with another race? Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted January 29, 2015 Share #30 Posted January 29, 2015 That seems very much up to the individual Miqo'te. Cross-race / Cross-clan relationships are canon in XIV's lore, but we're also told that the offspring may face more social adversity for being mix-raced. Something that Fernehalwes has stressed upon us is that there's a deep-seeded mistrust/dislike among the races and that their alliances are mostly fairly recent. However, this is very much a generalization and does not apply to all individuals obviously. If your Miqo'te is attracted to Roegadyn, he's attracted to Roegadyn. Simple as that. It's an acceptable and canon practice! As for additional Miqo'te lore, FreelanceWizard has put together a pretty good lore dump of Miqo'te facts on his FC's website. Most of what we know has been added there. Hope this helps! ^^ Link to comment
Melkire Posted January 29, 2015 Share #31 Posted January 29, 2015 But are they capable of reproducing and starting a family with another race? Cross-clan has been confirmed canonically by Square through certain characters whose names I shall leave unspoiled. Cross-race is a different matter entirely. Neither confirmed nor denied, implicitly or explicitly, as far as I'm aware (I don't recall Fernehawles giving a serious answer to this, just him handwaving the Roegadyn-Lalafell example). Personally leaning towards, "no, they'd have to adopt." Link to comment
Y'lani Posted January 29, 2015 Share #32 Posted January 29, 2015 Thanks for the help everyone. Please be patient as I throw a bunch more at you! Okay, moving past the Nunh/Tia debate, if A miqo'te where to leave his tribe and not much care to start another, would he be interested in a romance with other species/races other then his own? I mean I'm sure others RPers have, but what would the Miqo'te do themselves? I figure that being in the tribe it would be Miqo'te all the way around. But as a tribeless member, would it be out of nature to fall for a Roge or Elezen? And is there any other hard known facts about Miqo'te that I seem to be missing? The heart wants what the heart wants. I believe that no matter what race your character is, they can love whoever they want to love. Are they able to be with them? That depends on the other player. Inter-racial breeding has been confirmed (or so I hear), though as far as I know we're uncertain as to whether it is frowned upon by the common Eorzean. EDIT: Sounsyy confirmed that it is mostly frowned upon. Yay Sounsyy! My character, Y'lani, would find it very odd, and only because your character is a male Miqo'te Nunh. She's so used to her own cultural norms that it makes it incredibly hard for her to see a male Miqo'te foster a love for another man, or a male Miqo'te love a different race, because male Miqo'te are rarer than female Miqo'te in the lore. This is applicable to both cultures (Seekers and Keepers). In Keeper lore, males tend to wander from "family" to "family", solely there to give women Keepers more babies across the land. Now, this is from word of mouth, so don't be surprised if I'm wrong. But male Miqo'te being rarer than females? That's a definite. Does that mean it shouldn't happen? Nope! Some characters may find it odd, but that's only more roleplay opportunity for you! It should also be noted that tribal Seeker females often stick to one partner (the Nunh) while the Nunh has many. Females would likely not get too attached to the Nunh, because the Nunh may switch out at any moment if a Tia wins in a battle for the title, but again, Miqo'te can certainly feel love. They're related to the races of man, after all, and they can have an Eternal Bond ceremony like any other race. I haven't read it, but there's a Polyamory Guide somewhere on the RPC that may be helpful to you, depending. I personally enjoy the Miqo'te lore (it's logical, but in human society, it messes with our ethics) while others tend to find it controversial, or uncomfortable. Whether you feel this way is completely your own personal opinion. Again, I'm on my phone... so I apologize in advance for my scattered responses! EDIT: darn, I'm so slow, only typing 30 words per minute on my phone! Anyway, what Sounsyy said is totally right. I suppose I'll keep this here anyway. Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted January 29, 2015 For character writing purposes, would there of been Miqo'te tribes at Mor Dhona before the battle or would this of been outside their normal.....what's the word....habitat? I guess..... And if so, any rough idea where Mor Dhona is compared to say LL? Link to comment
Chris Ganale Posted January 29, 2015 Share #34 Posted January 29, 2015 Mor Dhona is dead center of Eorzea, north of Thanalan, and south of the Shroud and Coerthas. It's basically due northeast across the sea from Limsa. As for tribes there? Ehh...I dunno. Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted January 29, 2015 Share #35 Posted January 29, 2015 Um, we don't have any lore about Miqo'te tribes living in the Mor Dhona region, but that's not to say it wouldn't be possible, but it would've been about 15 years since anyone has "lived" in the region. At least to our knowledge, the region has been largely uninhabited for a long time. Here's a map of Eorzea: So Limsa Lominsa is on the island of Vylbrand to the western part of Eorzea. Due East, across the Straight of Merlthor is the region of Mor Dhona. Before the Battle of Silvertear Skies 15 years ago, it actually was a beautiful forest region with a multi-tiered lake called Lake Silvertear seen below. Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #36 Posted January 29, 2015 So I think I have something pretty decent, it would fit the name, city state, (Gridania) and siding with Maelstrom as more privateer than pirate,Moho the translate loosly to the same thing. Maybe once I get it wrote out I will post it here on the forums. Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted January 29, 2015 Share #37 Posted January 29, 2015 I mean I'm sure others RPers have, but what would the Miqo'te do themselves? I figure that being in the tribe it would be Miqo'te all the way around. But as a tribeless member, would it be out of nature to fall for a Roge or Elezen? Others have answered this already, but just to add a lore reference via NPC, the adventurers from whom you get the unlock of Wanderer's Palace (Hard Mode) are, in fact, a cross-race couple. They mention that they were driven out of their village for their love, but they've stuck together. Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #38 Posted January 29, 2015 I mean I'm sure others RPers have, but what would the Miqo'te do themselves? I figure that being in the tribe it would be Miqo'te all the way around. But as a tribeless member, would it be out of nature to fall for a Roge or Elezen? Others have answered this already, but just to add a lore reference via NPC, the adventurers from whom you get the unlock of Wanderer's Palace (Hard Mode) are, in fact, a cross-race couple. They mention that they were driven out of their village for their love, but they've stuck together. Thanks for the info, I haven't got that far yet so I didn't know. Thanks again! Link to comment
Du'lance Fiourtune Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #39 Posted January 29, 2015 So just to double check,the Miqo'te were already known to the Elezen, Highlander etc BEFORE the calamity, correct? Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted January 29, 2015 Share #40 Posted January 29, 2015 Yep. The miqo'te -- or, more accurately, the ancestors of modern miqo'te -- arrived in Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era (thousands of years ago), coming over ice bridges in search of prey. All of the five races of Man have known of each other for quite a while. Link to comment
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